.mobi An end to the speculation?

[Jasdon]

So, for anyone who thinks that .mobi is a failure, or that the registry needs to 'help' domainers to make a living (this I can't get my head around - if I never hear from them again, so what???????), read this;

I have never done anything more than park my .mobis since buying them.

I did not buy any .mobis until early Oct 06, after I had seen some secondary sales reported.

I have never bought a .mobi on the secondary market, ie, all my .mobis are hand reg'd.

I have approx 150 .mobis across several languages and various themes.

Now consider this;

If I sold my top 15 .mobis at a multiple of 30 months revenue (based on May's figures, so far), I would recoup my total investment and have a small profit.

I admit, this is far in excess of my expectations at this early stage of the game.

This to me says that .mobi has something that most other extensions will never have.

RFP delayed? So what...?
mTLD don't respond to questions posed on a forum? So what...?
Got to develope to see a profit? Not true.

When it all comes down to it, the three most important factors to consider with .mobi, domains, and business;

1. Revenue
2. Revenue
3. Revenue

What else matters?

 

[circa1850]

Biggest surprise:
MyAlibi with 51 views
12 clicks @ 23..08 CTR with .10 ave PPC

Nice numbers.

MyAlibi.mobi...must be a bunch of men searching that site. Perhaps we can all contribute our own excuses to the site.

 

[italiandragon]

Nice numbers.

MyAlibi.mobi...must be a bunch of men searching that site. Perhaps we can all contribute our own excuses to the site.

I don`t know what you`re talking about. :hehe:

 

[buckshotdots]

tite.mobi

I switched all my mobi's over last month to NameDrive because I heard their pages were 5/5 compliant. It surprised me to see the jump in traffic for a lot of my domains. My top is not really an adult word but I put an adult keyword in as it sounded like one-

TITE.MOBI US$ 3.82 107 37 % 34.58 US$ 0.10

My number domains NNNN that spell stuff also have good traffic but not many clicks so far.

gary-

 

[circa1850]

I don`t know what you`re talking about. :hehe:

Looks like our Italian amiche has practice.

 

[ChineseDomain]

Some visitors, no clicks @ sedo
Move to ND for a try ...

 

[italiandragon]

Looks like our Italian amiche has practice.

I have no idea.... Do I know you ? :D

 

[Jasdon]

Figures would be even better but for Avg PPC, $0.10 in May against $0.17 for April for my .mobis

I'm getting $0.14 for 'others', ie .com / .net / .org - and $0.19 for typos!

 

[GijsZePa]

I have yet to figure that out. Both are google feeds. But I think, for mobi, ND is very multilingual and multinational friendly.

You just made my day..!

Thanks for the info...have something to do..the next hours...
rep added...

Martin

 

[aggieuk]

I think i may give ND a try also, maybe Sedo treats the .mobi ext with contempt and seems to be defrauding us of money etc???? IF it improves dramaticaly on the changeover i will start to investigate the matter.

Hopefully nothing to worry about though!!!

 

[ajkula]

It is clear why is ND better than Sedo. For some reason, when you use m.yahoo.com for searching of mobile web, you get listed also ND parked pages in search results. Yes, that is very good for domainers, but I don`t think it is good for future of mobile web.

 

[GijsZePa]

It is clear why is ND better than Sedo. For some reason, when you use m.yahoo.com for searching of mobile web, you get listed also ND parked pages in search results. Yes, that is very good for domainers, but I don`t think it is good for future of mobile web.

True as hell, but I can't develop 80 sites within a few weeks ...
Best to park then...isn't ?

Martin

 

[Jasdon]

It is clear why is ND better than Sedo. For some reason, when you use m.yahoo.com for searching of mobile web, you get listed also ND parked pages in search results. Yes, that is very good for domainers, but I don`t think it is good for future of mobile web.

It's exposing people to .mobi - and exposure is good.

Especially so if the .mobi sites are being catagorized seperately.

 

[circa1850]

It is clear why is ND better than Sedo. For some reason, when you use m.yahoo.com for searching of mobile web, you get listed also ND parked pages in search results. Yes, that is very good for domainers, but I don`t think it is good for future of mobile web.

First, ND is a google feed.

Second, why do you want to search the web using m.yahoo.com? Use MSN.mobi. IT'S LIVE!!!

Third, the future of mobi is very good.

I agree, until I can get all 350+ developed, it is best to park. From my perspective, it gives me a very good indicator which domains are being searched the most and perhaps helps to prioritize development sequence as well as site content.

GOOD STUFF!

 

[ajkula]

It's exposing people to .mobi - and exposure is good.

Exposure is good, quality is much better.

First, ND is a google feed.

So? Sedo is a Google feed too.

Second, why do you want to search the web using m.yahoo.com? Use MSN.mobi. IT'S LIVE!!!

IMO, MSN sux. Sure, it is very nice to have msn.mobi live, but I`m using google.mobi for my personal needs.

Third, the future of mobi is very good.

I hope so Future of mobile web is very good.

I agree, until I can get all 350+ developed, it is best to park. From my perspective, it gives me a very good indicator which domains are being searched the most and perhaps helps to prioritize development sequence as well as site content.

GOOD STUFF!

I believe more in quality of my .mobi names (with some reasonable traffic) parked on Sedo, then on my .mobi names (with "oh-la-la" traffic) parked on ND.

BTW, I`m deeply in .mobi (probably $too much$ in it), so I have to be positive. Just bring out my thoughts about difference between Sedo and ND parking service. Peace

 

[circa1850]

Exposure is good, quality is much better.

So? Sedo is a Google feed too.

IMO, MSN sux. Sure, it is very nice to have msn.mobi live, but I`m using google.mobi for my personal needs.

I hope so Future of mobile web is very good.

I believe more in quality of my .mobi names (with some reasonable traffic) parked on Sedo, then on my .mobi names (with "oh-la-la" traffic) parked on ND.

BTW, I`m deeply in .mobi (probably $too much$ in it), so I have to be positive. Just bring out my thoughts about difference between Sedo and ND parking service. Peace

No sure I understand your point(s). Why use an "m.dot" something when it is not necessary? Yes, Sedo is google feed...as is name drive. If I have a traffic of 10 at Sedo and a traffic of 150, same domain name, at ND...then what is going on at Sedo? That represents the "quality of the name". That represents the traffic and searches. What is Sedo doing...blocking traffic? Traffic for traffic, dollar for dollar, it has been exceptionally better at ND for mobi.

Perhaps a big factor is ND has 5/5 mobi compliant pages. And as far as I know, the ONLY parked company to be 5/5 mobi compliant. Been using both, ND and SedoPro. Been a Sedo customer for years.

The quality of the name will be a truer representation when the traffic counts climb as I have seen moving ALL my mobis to ND. Yes, I had traffic at Sedo. Yes I had clicks at Sedo.

But tell me why I may have traffic of 10, 2 clicks, CTR 20% 20 cents at Sedo and when the same name is moved to ND I have traffic of 76, 26 clicks, $1.26, CTR 34.21%. These numbers make no sense to me what so ever.

Something is screwy, Sedo is playing games, same feeds (google), essentially same content yet substantially more traffic. Traffic to me is the measure of the quality of the name. Paying pennies or even a dollar or more per click is not even a factor for me if I plan on developing.

Perhaps you should experiment on your own moving a few of your mobi's to ND. Then contact Sedo after you see the numbers and ask them where has 80%-90% of your traffic counts been going?

 

[Jasdon]

No sure I understand your point(s). Why use an "m.dot" something when it is not necessary? Yes, Sedo is google feed...as is name drive. If I have a traffic of 10 at Sedo and a traffic of 150, same domain name, at ND...then what is going on at Sedo? That represents the "quality of the name". That represents the traffic and searches. What is Sedo doing...blocking traffic? Traffic for traffic, dollar for dollar, it has been exceptionally better at ND for mobi.

Perhaps a big factor is ND has 5/5 mobi compliant pages. And as far as I know, the ONLY parked company to be 5/5 mobi compliant. Been using both, ND and SedoPro. Been a Sedo customer for years.

The quality of the name will be a truer representation when the traffic counts climb as I have seen moving ALL my mobis to ND. Yes, I had traffic at Sedo. Yes I had clicks at Sedo.

But tell me why I may have traffic of 10, 2 clicks, CTR 20% 20 cents at Sedo and when the same name is moved to ND I have traffic of 76, 26 clicks, $1.26, CTR 34.21%. These numbers make no sense to me what so ever.

Something is screwy, Sedo is playing games, same feeds (google), essentially same content yet substantially more traffic. Traffic to me is the measure of the quality of the name. Paying pennies or even a dollar or more per click is not even a factor for me if I plan on developing.

Perhaps you should experiment on your own moving a few of your mobi's to ND. Then contact Sedo after you see the numbers and ask them where has 80%-90% of your traffic counts been going?

I would agree 100% if I thought that all this traffic was type in, but I cannot see it being so.

If it were all type in, it would start the day you reg and park it, but that's not the case with my names. I have noticed it takes from a few days to 2-3 weeks before traffic comes to a new name, and that to me, suggests that the ND pages are favoured by SEs, and these SEs (I believe) are offering .mobi results when the search originates from a mobile device.

That's my theory anyway....

 

[circa1850]

That's my theory anyway....

Perhaps, but it is still positive and in the right direction as mentioned earlier (by you?) regarding exposure.

I used to think alot of it was bots. But bots don't click on results.

Here is another cool feature of NameDrive. Something it offers which sedo does not.

Using ND, you have the option of simply putting a template for search results.

What happens is the VIEWER enters what they are searching for. Taking those search terms you are able to customize and further optimize your keywords.

Then, if you choose, you can take that information and enter the terms being searched for as your keywords. I have not tried this yet, but just to satisfy my own curiosity, I am trying this with a couple of names. Then once I think I have enough information obtained, I will take the domain name (.mobi) back to Sedo and use those keywords just to see if there is a difference in the quality and number of traffic and hit counts.

 

[dag]

I would agree 100% if I thought that all this traffic was type in, but I cannot see it being so.

If it were all type in, it would start the day you reg and park it, but that's not the case with my names. I have noticed it takes from a few days to 2-3 weeks before traffic comes to a new name, and that to me, suggests that the ND pages are favoured by SEs, and these SEs (I believe) are offering .mobi results when the search originates from a mobile device.

That's my theory anyway....

Glad to know that -- I moved all 543 of my MOBIs to ND last night, and I was surprised not to see any traffic yet except for the 3 or 4 I'd tested out.

One more thing that might help with the ND clicks versus Sedo is that their MOBI template offers 10 links/ads compared with 5, I believe, on Sedo. So there's a better likelihood that a useful link will be shown.

 

[Jasdon]

Glad to know that -- I moved all 543 of my MOBIs to ND last night, and I was surprised not to see any traffic yet except for the 3 or 4 I'd tested out.

One more thing that might help with the ND clicks versus Sedo is that their MOBI template offers 10 links/ads compared with 5, I believe, on Sedo. So there's a better likelihood that a useful link will be shown.

Valid point with the 10 ads vs. 5 - would defo increase CTR.

 

[scandiman]

One more thing that might help with the ND clicks versus Sedo is that their MOBI template offers 10 links/ads compared with 5, I believe, on Sedo. So there's a better likelihood that a useful link will be shown.

Truth is, I tried out one of my ND parked names on my phone and the main site showed up fine but 9 of the 10 links would not load on my phone. They are not mobile friendly links and the clicks did not register on the counter.