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Anyone have any news on this auction which is underway?
snoop said:Realistically though that is never going to happen is it? The marketplace is made of people "with the cash", those people set the prices. Not the people who could, would, should....This is particularly true when cash is tight. Not meaning to be rude hear, just saying it as it is.
I'm pretty sure if the name were auctioned again tomorrow the price wouldn't be much different.
snoop said:Another interesting sale from the silent auction,
ringtone.mobi - $10,000
ringtones.mobi sold in November last year for $145,000
Obviously the plural is several times better though I think ringtone.mobi would have got 30-40k+ last year.
You need to keep up with current events before declaring that the RFP process has been abandoned.Jeff said:^ Good observation(s) ... the Traffic "dot Mobeys" are clearly OFF and by a very large percentage from prior HYPE Traffic (and Sedo) events - realistically, 75% - 85%+ or more from those bogus prices, IMHO.
And that's the good news! :o
The recurring BAD NEWS, of course, for the extension are that these Usual Suspect™ "sales" are not leading to actual developments and promotions of actual "on the go" websites and very necessary "ecosystem", in my judgement. mTLD has chosen to auction these premium / generic domains, and has since not followed through with ensuring that they would fulfill their prescribed mandated development requirement - while 1,000's of them still reside under mTLD ownership and languishing undeveloped!
In many respects, mTLD - through these Traffic (and Sedo) auctions and in abandoning the RFP process for these generics - has caused the downfall of the extension! My educated guess is you'll now start to see some new "Press Releases" out of mTLD (and a new hype push drivel here on the forums) to try to buy it more time (and, as always, including GREED CASH), but in the end it will have no effect on this downward spiral, IMHO. :tri:
Thanks to those posting and commenting on ALL of the Traffic updates and its discussion - "dot Mobey" or otherwise - I think it's been a nice, open, and balanced discussion of the current state of affairs! :gl: :talk:
For those new and newer to domains, I think this unique balance here at your #1 Namepros is very important to seeing the larger picture (in any extensions)! :imho:
-Jeff
scandiman said:You need to keep up with current events before declaring that the RFP process has been abandoned.
Jeff said:My educated guess is you'll now start to see some new "Press Releases" out of mTLD (and a new hype push drivel here on the forums) to try to buy it more time (and, as always, including GREED CASH), but in the end it will have no effect on this downward spiral, IMHO. :tri:
Reece said:Mtld hasn't followed through with the development requirements on any of the other names now have they? Why would we expect it to be any different this time around.
I'll admit -- I've been busy and haven't kept up with mobi events, but I don't recall reading anything about mtld enforcing their dev requirements... :td:
scandiman said:Jeff, your hatred is clouding your vision again. You bust mTLD's nuts that they have abandoned the RFP but are currently working on releasing some of their most valuable domains via RFP right now. As usual regarding .mobi, you know not what you are talking about. Living in hate will do that to a person.
Yes Jeff, again it is no surprise that you want follow up .mobi discussion in a ".mobi sucks" thread. Your continued striving for "fair balance" is overwhelming.Jeff said:PS. Non Traffic related discussion can be continued in the thread link that I posted above, as well.
-Jeff
coast said:Congratulations to buyers and sellers of the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. auction. That's what we're talking about, right?
scandiman said:Yes Jeff, again it is no surprise that you want follow up .mobi discussion in a ".mobi sucks" thread.
At this (TRAFFIC) event, dotMobi will make 16 of its valuable premium names available as part of the Moniker-sponsored auction (including a live auction segment on 23 May). The selection of generics for this auction is bound to attract a lot of attention: airlines.mobi, boats.mobi, company.mobi, computers.mobi, drugs.mobi, escort.mobi, forsale.mobi, films.mobi, men.mobi, mortgage.mobi, religion.mobi, records.mobi, ringtone.mobi, sales.mobi, show.mobi and strip.mobi.
dotMobi followers know the drill as regards content requirements attached to these premium names -- sites should initially consist of a dotMobi compliant parking page with a live web site containing relevant content to follow within a six-month period. In case you don't, we covered the basics in our auction press release this Monday past.
mjnels said:slow night, Jeff?
mjnels said:what would you recommend as the best way to get definite answers to these questions?
Jeff said:Do we yet know who the respective, verified BUYERS are ... and what their specific plans are for the mandated developments of these domain names, and how they'll be promoting these new, developed sites in the very near-term? :blink:
scandiman said:But If your unrelenting assault on .mobi is having any negative effect on current .mobi aftermarket and/or auction pricing my wallet thanks you, just means I can get better names for less.
Jeff said:I think most today believe - even if these tough questions are one day addressed - that prices could still DROP much, much farther in the months and years ahead; because there really isn't any substance to the whole thing, and its SEVERE lack of corporate adoption, its obvious branding difficulties, and the fact that promises have been made and broken! :imho:
Besides, shouldn't you better be spending your time developing what you already own?
Just couldn't resist trying to telling me how to spend my time could you. :lol: Couldn't you better spend your time getting answers to your own questions?Jeff said:Besides, shouldn't you better be spending your time developing what you already own?
snoop said:Jeff said:I think most today believe - even if these tough questions are one day addressed - that prices could still DROP much, much farther in the months and years ahead; because there really isn't any substance to the whole thing, and its SEVERE lack of corporate adoption, its obvious branding difficulties, and the fact that promises have been made and broken! :imho:
Besides, shouldn't you better be spending your time developing what you already own?
I think it is quite possible. When markets drop a lot I think there is always a group of people who feel they are "bargain hunting", that is the case whether the asset is fundamantally sound or not I think. 75% off the prices from last year sounds good. They are either getting good deals or propping up a market that will stagnate or fall further. Personally I don't see any solid foundations with .mobi so I tend to see things on the the latter side.
Jeff said:^ That's exactly right, Rep.+ Snoop ... there is nothing that has been substantiated that gives any indication that even the most "premium" / generic of these domains are worth what they'd be in any other awkward extension, Mid $Xxx - (rare) Low $X,xxx+/- for their generic or "keyword" reselling potential, IMHO. They could ... as things are going and prospects look for the future ... even reach absolute $0.00; so the concept of dumping even more money (good money after bad), even at the common stunt "bargain prices", in to something that is both fundamentally and technically flawed (and obsolete) makes very little sense - other than for the purpose to buoy short-term prices, and continue the hype and false hopes! :tri: :imho:
Meanwhile, the questions persist! :yell:
-Jeff
BTW Jeff, my post is about my own personal evaluations and decisions. I offer my opinion and share my own activites yet you accuse me of trying to pull a stunt, propping up the aftermarket, hyping the extension and creating false hopes. If I think something is a bargain for me then I buy it. What is so hard about this for you to grasp and why do you choose to slander me as a result?Jeff said:Paul, we're all now keenly aware that your common public counter to the questions and concerns mTLD and "dot Mobey" (and the simple fact that "sales prices" at this most recent Traffic event are off 80% - 85%+) and to once again attempt to prop up the aftermarket is to call them "bargains" and an "opportunity to buy" etc. at these depressed levels, but I really don't see this stunt being widely believed by most who are seeking these critical answers, to be honest. I think most today believe - even if these tough questions are one day addressed - that prices could still DROP much, much farther in the months and years ahead; because there really isn't any substance to the whole thing, and its SEVERE lack of corporate adoption, its obvious branding difficulties, and the fact that promises have been made - and broken! :imho:scandiman said:But If your unrelenting assault on .mobi is having any negative effect on current .mobi aftermarket and/or auction pricing my wallet thanks you, just means I can get better names for less.