.tv Why the lull ?

[-Adam-]

At one point this sub forum was actively moving every day but now seems to be slightly stagnant. I know there are some occasional posts from time to time but has this section just slowed down due to lack of interest or other factors related to outside economical reasons? I know I have been trying to catch back up myself but after my move to Florida I have been spending more time at work then I do on the boards but I always did like to read the new stuff that was happening within the .Tv realm.

 

[snoop]

In my view - lots of money lost, especially with the premiums.

 

[TheBulldog]

No more than any other board around here. It is just more pronounced on the smaller ones.

I would guess percentage wise, nothing has changed.

Well, maybe less bull.

 

[mckennaronnie]

In my view - lots of money lost, especially with the premiums.

On most part i disagree with that statement, except for the small group who bought lots of overpriced premiums with the hopes of quick flips (though i wont waste time arguing this fact as we will never agree)

Here is my reasons why the .tv forum is dead:

1: Economy, same as with most domainers forums.
2: Too many people were in .Tv purely for quick flips but it's too early for that as there is little aftermarket for all the domains up for sale.
3: The extension is still at a early stage of it's rebirth, will need time to really take off But many of those who spent lots of time on here over past 2 years were never prepared to hold out for longterm.
4: This is a domainers forum where as most of the activity in .tv is to do with development, not much to talk about from a domainers view point.
5: The negativity, constant fall out's & massive ego's here over past year drove many away.
6: Those who are still very active in buying & developing .Tv's are still as commited as ever but each either use other forums or talk with friends made on NP via MSN or the phone.

Probably a few more reasons also, different for each person.

Dont feel it is all negative though, in my experience .TV is doing great if you see it as a developers extension so either buy to develop or to sell to endusers.

I know for a fact that there is at least 10 former active NP members who are building there whole future around .TV developments with most still happy to buy quality domains if they ever come on the market at reasonable rates. We/they wouldn't be spending so much time, money & effort on .Tv domains / websites if we did not have faith in the extension.

Most who bought quality domains 1,2 years ago could easily sell up there .Tv domains and get out the extension with a fantastic ROI but they choose not to as they still have great faith in the inpact this extension will have.

Just my opinions, i'm sure others see it different.
I'm as happy as ever with my .Tv domains, i bought about another 10 last week as part of another development project.
I expect in 3 - 6 Months (maybe 12, depending on economy) NP and other .TV forums will get busier again as lots of new .TV sites make an impact & the aftermarket gets busier. IMHO

I'm away to spend another day working on .TV developments, if i was worried about the 'lull' then i'd stop developing & sell up this domain for $20K like i was offered.
I'm not worried at all, i'm very confident in .tv's future. :tu:

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

I think its simple. Most of us have moved to the next phase. After acquisition is development, which cannot happen over night. This is a domaining community and many of us have spread out to development communities like development.tv, allthings.tv, or other sites that are less domain focused and more development focused.

 

[Argos]

The Forum may time to time breathe a little bit, call it lack of enthusiasm or lack of interest, losts in premiums registrations or whatsoever, since the beginning of the forum we have always got ups and downs, it is like seasons, the sea is never the same, I am not worrying about that, to me the .tv forum output isn't the indicator of the good shape or wealth of the extension, it is just a place for discussions and pronostics.
Maybe what has changed for the .tv fans, with .tv gaining in acceptance/popularity an announcement of a nice .tv sale or a mention of a developed .tv site is maybe today less 'magic' than a year before as we know the .tv is on the right track, slowly but surely progressing.

 

[newBtv]

right on...

Right On Brother..

I think its simple. Most of us have moved to the next phase. After acquisition is development, which cannot happen over night. This is a domaining community and many of us have spread out to development communities like development.tv, allthings.tv, or other sites that are less domain focused and more development focused.

 

[MicroGuy]

It appears that the entire site is experiencing a lull. It's probably just more noticeable in the sub-forums.

 

[hullswingerscom]

some domainer have lots of money invested in there dot tv names what has made the forum a little one sided....best to say nothing so you dont upset them.

maybe next year i can hype things up then leave and go into politics or
i can always spend lots of cash on dot tv and get domainer of the year.

or i can say it as i feel even if it upset some here!

i have been doing well with my dot tv names i was ask to bid up to £1000 for farmersmarket.tv to add to our cottinghammarket.co.uk website ,we do have farmers-market.tv and farmersmarkets.tv and others...what do i find farmersmarket.tv as been dropped smashin

i for one love this credit crunch

 

[GoneWalkabout]

If that was a shareprice and you were comparing to September and October I think you would be laughing all the way to the bank!

If that chart is correct then we are patently not in a lull - just a couple of weeks of quiet after a busy two weeks before that.

The fact there are so many people commenting on this also proves that people are still here in big numbers.

 

[bigdipper]

I think the reasons are many for the slowdown here. My guess would be that with the holidays and the usual end of year things - we all get sidetracked. Couple that with a piss poor global economy - and i would say that those 2 factors alone have got people a bit sidetracked.

Also - i think most of us are also interested in other extensions besides just .tv... Although i will say that for me - .tv is my 2nd favorite extension behind the 800 pound gorilla.

As for me - those 2 factors (end of year/economy) plus learning to develop some of my names have come into play along with trying to run a non-related financial business full time in during some of the most turbulent times we have ever seen.

When it comes to the domains - i have recently gotten myself around to slowly but surely learning a few design related programs that will enable me to start to develop some decent sites/mini-sites and move on with that phase of the game. I can't stand the parking companies stealing another dime from me at this point - but i suppose that's another topic for another day.

For 2009, I'm looking to tighten my focus and reign it in a bit which i think a lot of folks are doing right now. For me, next year is going to be focused on development and monetization. There's a lot to learn for sure - but i am taking it seriously as my "night job"... As far as the collection of names goes - I'm looking to pare down my portfolio, reduce my carrying costs and drop the stinkers - which is something i'm always looking to do. I think there will be some outrageous opportunities in the next few years as the economy struggles and unemployment rises. 2009 & likely 2010 will almost certainly present some fantastic buying opps in all extensions.

I agree with others who have said the traffic round these parts is up and down... I'm sure it will pick up soon.

Hope everyone is well...

 

[Len]

There seems to be a lot more using the "Stealth mode" than there used to be.....Not sure if these are actually shown in the users online figures.

Yes things are slower and the .tv buzz has died down. IMO the main reason being that the rush associated with the "excitement of having a new girlfriend" has now changed for many, to working on the foundation of a solid relationship.

 

[mckennaronnie]

IMO the main reason being that the rush associated with the "excitement of having a new girlfriend" has now changed for many, to working on the foundation of a solid relationship.

Agreed, very well put.
:kickass:

 

[jeffoverman]

8. Too many trolling around and one main person begins with an s to be added to ronnies number 8 spot

Argos, Ronnie have it right on. Allthings, len, James has it right on.

Going be great ride in 09 folks for .tv !

Hulls, this forum is not at all one sided and yes people have money to brand there .tv platform. Yes some people here lossed a boat load of cash. Any yearly fee under 1,000 is a good investment and with a business plan of course. When your talking about 3k, 5k a year then were talking some major cash and or developer with capital.

The economy continues to worsen.

As len put it it was a perfect example. Plus a few key members here I respect are not here as much either there developments going on or the trolling of some people.


Good luck everyone.

 

[gr8trfoo]

In my view - lots of money lost, especially with the premiums.

This extension is not likely to be much of a "domainers" domain, not very soon anyway. I must have spent at least a quarter million on new handregs that I've since let drop (and no one's bothered to pick up). But I'm still smiling and still holding on to a few hundred overall. You have to pay to play and to my mind the game is still plenty early. Hell I hope to be made an honorary Tuvaluan someday.

Some advice to all:

These are great domains IF you intend to actually use them, develop them, build a brand. The ones I'm keeping are earmarked for exactly that. But if anyone wants to jump in now thinking they can make a few fast bucks just take a look at whats happening in the marketplace thread. Its pretty damn ridiculous what with the same handful of guys constantly bumping and pushing the same tired lists of unsellable names. Naturally they're desperate to sell but their actions are not helping the image of .tv in the least. Actually its pretty incredible how much damage just a few people can do to an entire market.

If you're still holding onto 2nd tier names hoping for a payday, not anything you really care about, then you might be better off cutting your losses now and jumping in again when/if things ever heat up again. Might be a few years so why make Veriscrew richer?

And yes - anything *channel, *tv.tv, etc, etc, anything thats not an exact and highly commercial keyphrase, not a very popular first/sur name or something thats obviously smashing in some real branding sense IS probably in fact a 2nd tier name. Face it.

 

[MicroGuy]

Its pretty damn ridiculous what with the same handful of guys constantly bumping and pushing the same tired lists of unsellable names. Naturally they're desperate to sell but their actions are not helping the image of .tv in the least.

Very well said Finster...

 

[-Adam-]

Wow lots of opinions but it's good to see the activity and what others think are the major factors. It's also nice to see that not everyone is pointing the finger at the economy and can see other outside factors.

 

[lenah]

you want to know where there is a lull.

Because most of the discussions lack substance. That is why most of the high value posters have left, converted to lurker status, or launched their own DOT TV forums.

 

[DDC_Cyn]

The boards in general have slowed, as others have mentioned. That's typical of this time of year - with the holidays and the end of the year approaching. I think you'll find that things will pick up in the first few months of the new year, once everyone is snowed in and back at their computers.

Also, much of the .tv news I see is entertainment related and that's a system that has slowed also thanks to the time of year, economy, etc.

 

[shaper]

Can't speak for everyone, but can't be everywhere at once. Holidays are creating a lot of demands on my time. Enjoying them, but domaining projects are on the sideline at the moment.