discuss Why Dot Web?

[DnEbook]

In the past I have read that dot web will be one of the more successful New Gtlds? But we already have dot net which is basically frowned upon by most domainers .........why will dot web succeed when the other 'neutral' dot net seems doomed ??
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Will you invest in this extension?

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

The general public doesn't think commercial when they hear or think of .com
It's a brand unto itself.

Again we already have .website sooo....

That's true - but .web will work in the same logic, it simply will 'turn into a brand' in short time.

.web to .com would be like .website to .commercial (if it would exist)
I (would) prefer the abbrivations in both 'cases'.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

I know. I just copy and pasted it over and over because I know you will being going for the longest web.web

I thought it was pretty funny though. I'm trying to lighten the mood a little. Everyone on here is so passionate about domains and wants to get their points across and have everyone agree with them. I know I do.

Carry on

Yes, I admit that I thought that but (like your webwebweb... statement) it's funny to go sarcastic in a serious way sometimes.
We are here to fight for our views, and ist our thing to see them as news.

.web simply describes what is allready clear and that's why people will love it because people love clearness.

 

[Kiko]

and theres also
.company
.co
.inc
.industries
.enterprises
.corp
.online
.zone
.internet
.cloud
.download
.site
.surf
.space

 

[Kiko]

so i have to own
word.site
word.website
word.web
????

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

and theres also
.company
.co
.inc
.industries
.enterprises
.corp
.online
.zone
.internet
.cloud
.download
.site
.surf
.space

Many nice extensions but I think I would prefer .web at the end because it's like the summary of (most of) them.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

so i have to own
word.site
word.website
word.web
????

If you ask as a developer / company / end user you first have to own a good business (content).
If it works, than why not registering more than one version (as forwarding domains)?
You simply have to decide which one should be the 'main domain / website'.

 

[Kiko]

it will still create a lot of confusion...
i have myword.com, .info, site, zone, online, website, so it will be not cool if someone takes it in .web or in any other gTLD,
next thing you know 1000 different businesses in different countries with the same name...

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

it will still create a lot of confusion...
i have myword.com, .info, site, zone, online, website, so it will be not cool if someone takes it in .web or in any other gTLD,
next thing you know 1000 different businesses in different countries with the same name...

I fully understand what you mean.
Of course it's not nice to see if someone have 'your' name in a similiar TLD.
It's a money thing at the end.

But again - what primarily counts is content.
While maybe 10 % are impressed by good domains (most domainers, me too) 90 % are only impressed by content and don't care about domains.
If you are the worlds best photographer you will be successfull with your content through any domain.
Than people will love your work - equal if you show it on .photos or on .web

And if you are successfull (in a financial way) you will have Money to get all (most) of your wished domains in similiar TLD for your name.

And the domain economy game continues.

 

[offersity]

imho .web & .online is almost apple & apple. Each has its own pros & cons, both make sense if you want them to make sense.

I personally prefer .online to .web and imho web is definitely much much better than .xyz or .gdn or .website, .top, etc.

Time will tell...

 

[Kiko]

In that case im going to get offersityWEB.com or offersityWEBSITE.com or offersitySITE.COM or offersityONLINE.com
is a nerver end story

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

imho .web & .online is almost apple & apple. Each has its own pros & cons, both make sense if you want them to make sense.

I personally prefer .online to .web and imho web is definitely much much better than .xyz or .gdn or .website, .top, etc.

Time will tell...

Thanks for your opinion.
'Time will tell' is allways true.

My .web 'prognosis / position' for day X: .top / .web / .com / .xyz / .net / .gdn / ...

 

[JB Lions]

More food for thought. While I agree these terms out a bit outdated they're still familiar**. I see .online, I think American Online, or I'm sure people realize they're online when they're on the internet.

Marketing dollars. Most of the niche extensions, not even worth it. .kitchen, why spend marketing dollars when you can't expect to get a good return on something that might only ever get a few thousand regs. So the more general ones have a better chance.

Somebody searches for .com not available, these registrars are going to push the hell out of .web. So not only the registry, but registrars. Maybe GD gets a SB commercial for them. They're going to put the marketing dollars behind the ones that have the best chance. The most watched generally has the best chance.

I see .web as just an extension. Some see it as internet. Some see it short for website. Multi-use.

**back to familar. Google Exact Match, Worldwide

web - 7,480,000 - people know this term, more than the next 4 terms combined
net - 5,000,000
online - 1,220,000
gdn - 60,500
xyz - 110,000

 

[brindle123]

That's true - but .web will work in the same logic, it simply will 'turn into a brand' in short time.

Just like .mobi (sarcasm implied)

No other extension will become like a brand. .com is part of jingles that many companies use in their commercials.

I never hear another extension being used as part of a companies jingle. You always hear ".com" in a commercial.

Kingof.top you seem to have way to much faith in every extension that comes out. The registries must love you.

web - 7,480,000 - people know this term, more than the next 4 terms combined
net - 5,000,000
online - 1,220,000
gdn - 60,500
xyz - 110,000

Where are you getting those numbers? There are 300million people in the USA and only 1.2 million know what online is? Only 7.5million know web? Something doesn't equate.

Somebody searches for .com not available, these registrars are going to push the hell out of .web

Do you really think that when we search for a .web on day one of launch that anything good will be available? Maybe, but I bet anything halfway good will be reserved. A couple days after launch the table scraps will be reg'd and that "Somebody/end user" won't be able to reg anything good in .com or .web

What's the point if anything good is being reserved by the registry/Rick? You/the middleman has been cut out of the domain business by someone who started in this business long before most of us.

Oh I'm gonna get all the 3L.web and 3N.web and then try to sell them to everyone else. Wrong. They will be held back/premium this go around. Who wins? The registry/Rick.

 

[JB Lions]

Where are you getting those numbers? There are 300million people in the USA and only 1.2 million know what online is? Only 7.5million know web? Something doesn't equate.

**back to familar. Google Exact Match, Worldwide

How many times those terms are getting searched.

"Do you really think that when we search for a .web on day one of launch that anything good will be available?"

Only saying the same thing. Will be most popular.....of new gtlds. Sales will reflect that. Probably the good keywords will be snatched up just like every other extension. Have no idea if they (whoever that turns out to be) will keep some for themselves or just let them out there, and let domainers fight for them via auction.

 

[DnEbook]

I think if they keep it low and DO NOT PUT UP THE PRICE after the first year this will help it, does anyone have an idea of pricing, some good points on this thread

 

[Bean]

The thing with .net is that it was originally intended to be used for sites involved in networking in general and the 'internet' is just one instance of networking. Of course these day .net is generally assumed to mean the internet but still, it's not as clearly defined as .web which should be immediately obvious to almost everyone. So yea I think .web could turn out to be a very popular extension but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[mad409]

So .web is not better than .xyz, gdn, .onl etc?

You started a .gdn thread. It's dead. Just 2 other people besides yourself. The extension is one of the worst I've seen. You like it because you can get some good keywords, that's it. Dead thread. I had to Google gdn to find out what it means.

I think people saying stuff like what I quoted, that these other new gtds are better than .web, are just worried about their investments. And you should be, you still have time to sell them before .web comes out. How does it not bump them down?

As for your first question, I've already said that the more I think about it I don't think it's any better than the ones I pointed out. Sure web is pronounceable other than let's say onl but that doesn't bother me, like .io doesn't seem to bother new tech. startups. I also pointed out that most anything worth having will be held by the registry and sold at auction just like all the new launches have done more and more often now.

Do I actually know how well it will do? Sure I don't but I'll have a good idea once it gets off the ground. Am I going to be looking to grab a few? Sure I will like I do most extensions. Will I get anything worth having? Probably not but who knows maybe they will overlook something.

As for my .gdn thread that's fine with me only two people replied, I love being the odd man out and if something does breakout with the extension, well I'm no longer the odd man out then, correct? Here's a prediction .gdn will have a huge upswing from China within the next six months and no more than one year.

Actually .gdn is a great example of how hard it is to register something good, all one word keywords are reserved, no NNN's are available and many LLL have a high price tag for the first year and then a lower renewal after that. I've spent quite a bit of time finding some LLL.gdn at regular reg. fee, I'm happy with them so that's all that matters to me and shouldn't be your concern.

You told me xyz was ugly too back in 2014 when I first joined NP but I tend to do my own thing and learn from my own mistakes if and when it happens. I personally try to look outside the box rather than being stuck in a box. No guts no glory!

Some here have made good points as to how it does sound funny sometimes. Like what's better games.web, or games.online. I too like games.online better but again I also like games.xyz, games.gdn and games.onl, so I guess I see things differently than you, what's new?

And let me put one more iron in the fire, I like .now much better than .web but JMO!

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

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No other extension will become like a brand. .com is part of jingles that many companies use in their commercials.

I never hear another extension being used as part of a companies jingle. You always hear ".com" in a commercial.

Kingof.top you seem to have way to much faith in every extension that comes out.
...

Lets wait 10+ years than we know it better

Of course currently most jingles including '...visit us at whatever dot com' - but, there are others too.
Maybe I will create an '...visit us at whatever dot top' jingle.
And, there will be many different TLD Jingles in future, also '...visit us at whatever dot web'

Sry, that's complete nonsense - I don't have '(way to much) faith in every extension that comes out.'
There are (will be) more than 1 K new TLD's, I have 'faith' in about 5 % - 10 % of them.
You can read my past / current / future posts to see in which one.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

I think if they keep it low and DO NOT PUT UP THE PRICE after the first year this will help it, does anyone have an idea of pricing, some good points on this thread

I think / hope they will handle it like .top TLD (otherwise I am not interested):

• Friendly registering prices for 'normal' domains.
• High 'first time purchase' prices for reserved 'premium' domains.
• Friendly renewal prices, also for purchased 'premiums' (thats the fair way).

If we buy a car we have to pay a (relative) high price only one time at the beginning - but not every year (this are the 'yearly' fees).

 

[SiteMachine]

Looking at some of the new gtlds, no one is buying the "Premium" domains for $1000's in renewal fees each year. New gtlds aren't marketed to the general public and the general public isn't busy them, especially at the prices they are asking for them. The general public will just buy longer domains in .com with hyphens.

I hear this a lot...

domainnamewire.com/2016/03/23/rightside-premium/ says otherwise

As for .web, I only read page 1 of this thread but hopefully someone has pointed out that .web isn't a normal tld, it was a rougue tld for years so it will have many names taken before the sunrise or landrush. This isn't typical of a ngtld and it ISN'T a good thing.

Don't take my word for it, check wikipedia.