discuss Why Dot Web?

[DnEbook]

In the past I have read that dot web will be one of the more successful New Gtlds? But we already have dot net which is basically frowned upon by most domainers .........why will dot web succeed when the other 'neutral' dot net seems doomed ??
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Will you invest in this extension?

 

[JB Lions]

yeah, but how about end-users? All good ones will be gone quickly

All the great keywords with just about every extension coming out will either be held by the registry or be snapped up by domainers the day it comes out. So for end users, same issues they encounter if they tried getting a .com and if they want those premium type keywords, they won't be available to them. One of the selling points of new gtlds was end users can now get their keywords, well, not really. So end users are usually going to have have to pay regardless. With neutral ones, there is more to cover, since you can put any keyword with them, unlike most of these niche new gtds.

It's not really level footing. Xyz has had a head start and so far has surpassed all expectations. And xyz had some nice aftermarket sales recently.

.Web feels prehistoric already.

Those aftermarket sales have been primarily registry sales. Expectations? Those are built on $2 and under regs. Renewal time is coming. We'll see what happens. And the under 8% U.S. regs? That met people's expectations? For something being marketed as the next .com, I expected higher. It's just a cheapy Chinese extension to me. If .web has the same type of numbers, I will be saying the same thing.

You take any extension out there and put it at $2 and under, people will load up.

 

[-EM-]

yeah, but how about end-users? All good ones will be gone quickly

It should do easier than the other TLDs. It is easier to accommodate for internet users with .web rather than other gTLDs, and that will make end users more interested. IMO

 

[brindle123]

No one says hey are you on the web.
They say are you online.

cars.web doesn't sound as good as cars.online even though online is longer.
Insurance.web sounds bad too. Insurance.online sounds better
banking.web sounds bad Banking.online sounds better

online sounds better with most keywords to me.
xyz sucks(sorry xyz owners) it ain't gonna get mass accepted by end users. gdn isn't good either.

For me .online sounds better. There is little talk about "The web", we do talk about being online and doing things online.

News.web vs News.online
Magazine.web vs Magazine.online
Books.web vs Books.online
I could do that all day with almost every keyword. Even though you will be online while searching something or doing something related to the keyword. The keywords goes with it better and makes more sense.

"I'm going to post that online" or "I'm going to post that on the web"?
"I found this site online" or "I found this site on the web"
"I bought this camera on the web" or "I bought this camera online".

It just makes more sense, is used more, and sounds better.

The web seems like an older term that really isn't used much anymore.

I think you know the anticipation for .web, which means it's going to be harder for everybody to secure good keywords.

It's going to be harder to secure good keywords because there are not as many that go with .web!
Plus anything that does go with .web will be held back by Mr. Swartz or have a ridiculous price attached to it, which will make it unattractive to any domainer or end user.

I will agree that .web is better than .xyz, gdn, .onl and a bunch of other extensions, but online has more keywords that sound better with it.

List the top 5 keywords that go with .web. I would like to know what everyone thinks about that.

http://www.wired.com/2010/08/ff_webrip/
(I haven't read the whole article, I just thought it was a funny title.)

 

[JB Lions]

It's going to be harder to secure good keywords because there are not as many that go with .web!

They all go with .web, just like .com or .net. Neutral extension.

Probably will sell better too. Only see 8 reported sales for .online. lasvegas at Namescon, under 5k. I would bet .web would sell for more, same keyword. It's like 1 reported sale a month. Wasn't really paying attention to .online, didn't realize it was that bad.

Dnprices has a few more than Namebio - http://dnpric.es/?q=.online

Only 7 over $100. Kind of what I expected, .online seemed a bit redundant to me.

 

[brindle123]

.online seemed a bit redundant to me

and .web isn't redundant? We already have .website .site .onl .online .net

They all go with .web, just like .com or .net. Neutral extension.

Did you read the examples I gave? They didn't seem to go with .web at all!

List the top 5 keywords that go with .web! I didn't say the top 10 because that would be very hard to do.

Charlottes.web
spider.web
inter.web
justnotseeingit.web
can'tthinkof2more.web

If online has crappy aftermarket sales .web will be way worse! $3100 for the german word for cruises, that's not too bad.

Ok now let's see your top 5 keywords that go so great with .web if they all go well with .web just like .com or net it should be pretty easy for you.

 

[brindle123]

money
cash
business
realty
friends
poker
gambling

put any of these keywords with .web and see how they look and sound.
Then put them with .online and see how they look and sound!

Matter of fact, put any keyword with .web and .online and see which comes out the winner.

 

[Recons.Com]

If we go with the theory that absolutely most of the value of ngtlds come from being .com hacks, then .web is certainly very valuable, as lots and lots of Keyword+Web.com domains are taken.

And they sell for high price too:

Domain Price Date Venue
siteweb.com 100,000 USD 2011-10-05 Sedo
bestoftheweb.com 45,000 USD 2006-10-17 Moniker
hindiweb.com 35,000 USD 2015-02-08 DomainNameSales
digiweb.com 25,000 USD 2009-09-25 Sedo
femiweb.com 20,850 USD 2011-03-23 Sedo
easyweb.com 20,500 USD 2009-02-05 Sedo
femiweb.com 15,000 USD 2011-03-15 Sedo
southernweb.com 13,750 USD 2013-12-18 Sedo
filmweb.com 12,500 USD 2010-02-26 Sedo
financialweb.com 10,600 USD 2006-01-24 SnapNames
medicineweb.com 10,500 USD 2007-09-26 SnapNames
chefweb.com 9,005 USD 2007-09-26 SnapNames
infoweb.com 8,865 USD 2009-02-12 NameJet
instaweb.com 8,824 USD 2015-03-30 Sedo
gigaweb.com 8,700 USD 2006-12-14 SnapNames
creatupropiaweb.com 8,500 USD 2011-02-10 Sedo
3dweb.com 8,100 USD 2011-01-07 Sedo
servicesweb.com 8,000 USD 2011-06-20 Sedo
studyweb.com 7,012 USD 2014-07-18 NameJet
jvweb.com 7,000 USD 2015-02-08 DomainNameSales
247web.com 6,900 USD 2014-01-19 Afternic
webwebweb.com 6,900 USD 2008-11-20 Afternic
geekweb.com 6,000 USD 2011-06-04 Sedo
tcaweb.com 5,988 USD 2012-03-07 Afternic
tanzaniaweb.com 5,500 USD 2013-03-18 Afternic

 

[Kate]

The questions remains: what can domainers expect from .web when good sales of .net domains are rare ?
And it's not like the most coveted keywords will be easy to get upon launch, you know the deal on that.
You are going to pay for them. That makes sense only if you are going to be the end user, or you know there is good chance you will be able to resell them at a profit to an end user.

 

[JB Lions]

and .web isn't redundant? We already have .website .site .onl .online .net



Did you read the examples I gave? They didn't seem to go with .web at all!

List the top 5 keywords that go with .web! I didn't say the top 10 because that would be very hard to do.

Charlottes.web
spider.web
inter.web
justnotseeingit.web
can'tthinkof2more.web

If online has crappy aftermarket sales .web will be way worse! $3100 for the german word for cruises, that's not too bad.

Ok now let's see your top 5 keywords that go so great with .web if they all go well with .web just like .com or net it should be pretty easy for you.

You're looking at .web as a keyword not an extension. See .com and .net

If online has crappy aftermarket sales .web will be way worse! $3100 for the german word for cruises, that's not too bad.

.web will do better, see most watched. Also, electronics.online for $405? I think that keyword in .web will fetch more.

Look at the sales or lack of them in this case. Out over 7 months. I think .web will easily get more than 1 reported sale a month, even some of these crappier niche extensions are doing that.

 

[namerav]

I think .web will surely be one of the top 10 ngtlds.

 

[Recons.Com]

My strategy for some very good keywords with .web, .news and couple other names that might make sense:

1. Ignore the land rush, let everyone get whatever they want and pay whatever premiums they want.
2. Wait for 5-10 years until the potential/possible demand for better of those is visible on the horizon and all the dust has settled to show with extensions survived and which were killed by greedy or stupid management (or both).
3. Then and only then decide if I want to get in and get the best keywords for peanuts at reseller prices, expired auctions etc.

 

[brindle123]

.com has been out forever so some of those sales are 10 years old.

of course they are going to have higher sales prices, they are .coms

You're looking at .web as a keyword not an extension. See .com and .net

It doesn't really matter. Most keywords sound bad with the extension.

Put any keyword with the extension and it doesn't really work.

Still waiting on that top 5.

OK top 3 keywords that really work with .web (I'll make it easier)

 

[ksusha64]

I rather buy dot Horse than dot web. Dot web is outdated term similar to mobi. I think even cars.web sounds ridicilious. Cars.xyz Cars.me, Cars.online all sound much much better. Anything but web, complete crap. Don't waste your money.

 

[namerav]

My strategy for some very good keywords with .web, .news and couple other names that might make sense:

1. Ignore the land rush, let everyone get whatever they want and pay whatever premiums they want.
2. Wait for 5-10 years until the potential/possible demand for better of those is visible on the horizon and all the dust has settled to show with extensions survived and which were killed by greedy or stupid management (or both).
3. Then and only then decide if I want to get in and get the best keywords for peanuts at reseller prices, expired auctions etc.

Do you think if that extension is not successful will able to survive for 10 years. Maybe lot of them will close down, 5 years from now we'll have the answer.

 

[JB Lions]

Put any keyword with the extension and it doesn't really work.

You would say the same with .com or .net because (again) you're looking at them as keywords, not extensions. Anything works with a neutral extension. For my keywords, any of them.

How do you account for the lack of/low sales of .online? You really don't think .web will get more than 1 reported sale a month? Won't even be a contest.

I think it'll be the best out of the new gltds, which isn't saying much. Most are niche and the generic/neutral ones are pretty bad. gnd, xyz, really?

 

[brindle123]

Anything works with a neutral extension.

Making this easier for you. Give me the top 2 keywords that work with .web as an extension.

It will sound better as a hack/keyword than an extension anyway!

I'm not trying to bust your balls, I just want to know what you think really goes with it.

Extension or keyword, there just are not many that work with it.

The extension .web is bad and the keyword web is bad.

.xyz is just an extension so anything should work fine with it right?

 

[JB Lions]

Making this easier for you. Give me the top 2 keywords that work with .web as an extension.

It will sound better as a hack/keyword than an extension anyway!

I'm not trying to bust your balls, I just want to know what you think really goes with it.

Extension or keyword, there just are not many that work with it.

The extension .web is bad and the keyword web is bad.

.xyz is just an extension so anything should work fine with it right?

We're going over the same stuff. I said any, sex, hotels etc. Anything that sold well in .com, .net. Any, Anything, don't think I could be more clear.

.xyz, it is neutral. Anything can go with it. Problem is, 3 syl... worst letters. More popular in China, propped up by cheap regs.

"The extension .web is bad and the keyword web is bad."

And you would say that about .com and .net.

You don't like .web, ok but you like .online. Where the sales at? That's what it's about if you're a domainer, selling domains.

 

[Recons.Com]

Do you think if that extension is not successful will able to survive for 10 years. Maybe lot of them will close down, 5 years from now we'll have the answer.

If it is not successful, I am well positioned as well, with my .coms, .orgs, kw.cctlds or LL.cctlds, LLL.cctlds getting more demand for the limited supply.

If they are successful (getting the crumbles left after .com, .net, .org, .cctlds), then, plenty of time to get in without incurring renewals/maintenance for 5-10 or more years.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

While I still believe .top will be above all TLDs one day (slow but stable grow), I am sure that .web will beat .net because it sounds simply stronger.

 

[brindle123]

Ok now we're getting somewhere.

sex.web
hotels.web

They will be read as two keywords. That is my point about the extension. It's not really as neutral as .com or even .xyz

People are going to read the string together, not as something neutral.
Just because something sold in .com with the keyword web in it, doesn't mean that something similar with .web at the end will sell. The examples that recons posted all use web as a keyword, which will be the same way people will try to use .web

 

[brindle123]

While I still believe .top will be above all TLDs one day (slow but stable grow), I am sure that .web will beat .net because it sounds simply stronger.

I already have my eye on webwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebwebweb.web

so don't even try it! Just kidding KINGOFTOP, you can have it.

 

[wwwweb]

I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with .web the term is dated, like cyber, when it is released it will not be for you, anything decent will be held back as premium, this is not a cheap extension.

If you want to play in this space, then you better brush up on premium renewals, and figure out a strategy on how to pay for them every year, against low end user sell thru, and no ppc.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

.web is in fact even more naturalness than .com because all .websites are using the web while far not all websites made for .commercial purpose.

 

[brindle123]

What new extension that has come out is a success?
They all seem to have low sales compared to .com both in dollar amounts and numbers.
They all seem to be unknown to the general public and used very little by the general public.
More and more extensions will not help.

 

[brindle123]

.web is in fact even more naturalness than .com because all .websites are using the web while far not all websites made for .commercial purpose.

The general public doesn't think commercial when they hear or think of .com
It's a brand unto itself.

Again we already have .website sooo....