.tv Why dont .TV's sell in the major auctions?

[deb]

Why dont .TV's sell in the major auctions? i am not sure if this was covered elsewhere....(plse delete if so)

it just seems strange that whilst we are believers in the extension the big guys/domain investors/VC's steer clear of it. did we get it wrong? is .net and .org(even .mobi) currently a better investment?

i dont recall any major .tv sales at any recent "industry" auctions.

it will happen im sure in time, just a little bit of doubt creeping in

 

[TLDnetworks]

1. 99% of the buyers are commies
2. .TV premium renewal costs
3. 99% of the buyers are commies
4. Uncertainty of the premium renewals
5. 99% of the buyers are commies
6. ccTLD not a gTLD
7. 99% of the buyers are commies

 

[deb]

1. 99% of the buyers are commies
2. .TV premium renewal costs
3. 99% of the buyers are commies
4. Uncertainty of the premium renewals
5. 99% of the buyers are commies
6. ccTLD not a gTLD
7. 99% of the buyers are commies

i hope the .commies eventually see potential in the perfect multi media extension like .TV

fingers crossed i guess

 

[snoop]

The returns are low and the registration fees are high.

Think about westblock's statement "99% of the buyers are commies", that is because .com is where the money is, if the bidders were "tvers" the sales wouldn't any better better because frankly those who have been buying .tv domains over the last 5 years generally haven't made pots of money from it.

That is not to say .tv isn't a fairly well known extension with the public, but for speculators the profits are not there because of the pricing structure.

 

[deb]

frankly those who have been buying .tv domains over the last 5 years generally haven't made pots of money from it.

very true......

 

[smashfactory]

i blame that on richard rosenthall

 

[TheBulldog]

Because it needs a couple of "players" to pimp it.

 

[MillersCrossing]

Think about westblock's statement "99% of the buyers are commies", that is because .com is where the money is, if the bidders were "tvers" the sales wouldn't any better better because frankly those who have been buying .tv domains over the last 5 years generally haven't made pots of money from it.

Had you bought your first .com in 1984 or whenever it was exactly, I wonder how much it would have been worth 5 years later in 1989????????

 

[snoop]

Had you bought your first .com in 1984 or whenever it was exactly, I wonder how much it would have been worth 5 years later in 1989????????

It would have still been worth $0 because the world wide web didn't exist at that point. .Tv is 11 years old this year so I'm I'm not sure you are making a strong point with this.

 

[MillersCrossing]

It would have still been worth $0 because the world wide web didn't exist at that point. .Tv is 11 years old this year so I'm I'm not sure you are making a strong point with this.

And thus you have answered your own question........

In the same way as in 1989, or lets say 92, the web hardly had an infrastructure - thus rendering the in between years as foundless indicators of worth - so too 9 out of the 11 years and most say we are still 3 years away from true tv on the net -(Bill Gates) - the initial 11 years are foundless indicators of worth, given that technology is only just beginning to allow the .TV brand to make sense

 

[snoop]

And thus you have answered your own question........

In the same way as in 1989, or lets say 92, the web hardly had an infrastructure - thus rendering the in between years as foundless indicators of worth - so too 9 out of the 11 years and most say we are still 3 years away from true tv on the net -(Bill Gates) - the initial 11 years are foundless indicators of worth, given that technology is only just beginning to allow the .TV brand to make sense

.tv is already fairly widely known by the public and video is widespread (ever heard of youtube?). .tv speculators are missing the boat because of the way this extension is priced rather than because "true tv doesn't exist on the web yet". When "true tv" comes people will still be wondering where the profits are on these domains. There is money to be made with .tv domains, however almost all that profit flows to those running the registry.

 

[MillersCrossing]

.tv is already fairly widely known by the public and video is widespread (ever heard of youtube?). .tv speculators are missing the boat because of the way this extension is priced rather than because "true tv doesn't exist on the web yet". When "true tv" comes people will still be wondering where the profits are on these domains. There is money to be made with .tv domains, however almost all that profit flows to those running the registry.

.tv is unfortunately still very unheard of by the public - have to disagree strongly there and there is a difference between youtube and the 5 minute videos it plays to streaming internet tv channels.

Joost is still in Beta - no?

 

[.tv]

.tv is unfortunately still very unheard of by the public - have to disagree strongly there and there is a difference between youtube and the 5 minute videos it plays to streaming internet tv channels.

Joost is still in Beta - no?

.tv has to be promoted well.

Mogulus, a new broadcasting/video mixing service offers a patent pending technology which virtually eliminates the now infamous 20-second delay common in the live streaming process. With Mogulus, the viewer experiences what the producer has put on the air in less than one second.

 

[DotCom9]

Can someone post their best .tv names which did not sell in the auctions along with the reserve price they set for it?/

Thx.

 

[SKG]

.tv is already fairly widely known by the public and video is widespread (ever heard of youtube?). .tv speculators are missing the boat because of the way this extension is priced rather than because "true tv doesn't exist on the web yet". When "true tv" comes people will still be wondering where the profits are on these domains. There is money to be made with .tv domains, however almost all that profit flows to those running the registry.

Snoop, not all .tv is priced at premium first of all. There are plenty out there that are standard fee. Are you suggesting that .tv does not have the ability to earn over 24.95? There are many .coms out there that cannot even make 7.50 in a year. So the issue of making monies on a domain is not an extension issue. I can give you a list of .tv domains that are reg fee that earn more than its annual. In case of premiums, I guess when you buy a .com you are paying a front end load then a nominal amount and with .tv it is just dispersed allowing for more people to basically loan themselves into a business. The difference is traffic right now. Think for a minute Snoop, .com is a giant but it is not recognized in every part of the world is it? The acronym TV is. A four year old in Rwanda knows what a TV is over what COM means. Time and development are the holding factors along with the fact that people have invested so much into .com that it would be rather silly to buy bullions in gold and say silver might be worth more one day to only devaluate your retirement. I will also add that 20 years ago when .com was like 150 dollars per year or more what was the logic then. Inflation rates would say that 150 then would probably be like paying 700 or more today. So is a 500 dollar premium much different?

Deb the reason they do not do well in auctions, imo, is because "seeing is believing." There is not enough development and traffic out there. It is mostly domainers checking domain auctions. When corporate wants a domain they hire someone or another company to acquire it in most cases, imo.

 

[snoop]

Snoop, not all .tv is priced at premium first of all. There are plenty out there that are standard fee. Are you suggesting that .tv does not have the ability to earn over 24.95? There are many .coms out there that cannot even make 7.50 in a year. So the issue of making monies on a domain is not an extension issue. I can give you a list of .tv domains that are reg fee that earn more than its annual.

Most of the higher quality names have premium registrations fees on them and for the non premium the $25 registration fee is a major issues, it means holding costs are 400%+ higher than other extensions. The premium registration fees and high prices for regular registration fees is why there is not a lot of profit in this extension.

Think for a minute Snoop, .com is a giant but it is not recognized in every part of the world is it?

".com" means "the internet", everyone who actually uses that internet knows that. In what part of the world is .com not recognized? Let me guess, some place where they haven't heard of light bulbs yet?

The acronym TV is. A four year old in Rwanda knows what a TV is over what COM means.

It is a bit like saying "info" or "to" means more than "com", who cares, we are talking about extensions here, it is ".com" not "com".

Smash the reason they do not do well in auctions, imo, is because "seeing is believing." There is not enough development and traffic out there. It is mostly domainers checking domain auctions. When corporate wants a domain they hire someone or another company to acquire it in most cases, imo.

The reason why they don't do well in auctions in simply because the profits aren't there, it is hard to suggest something different to what "the scoreboard" is saying.

 

[StargateCapital]

This is interesting.

I've been noticing a continual flow of offers for my .tv domains. I have about 3600 .com names and of that about 200 are .tv. Offers received on .tv names usually start in the $1K or better range, which is cool. Sedo sends me the tard "$100 for sneakers.com" type offers everyday unfortunately and email offers on my dot coms which are pretty good, usually suck. Very rarely I'll get a good offer worth pursuing. Anyways those who wanna down play .tv go for it. I know better. My "scoreboard" bank account keeps reminding me. Then again, I've got some kick @$$ .tv names too if I don't say so myself!

Sneakers

 

[Steven]

This is interesting.

I've been noticing a continual flow of offers for my .tv domains. I have about 3600 .com names and of that about 200 are .tv. Offers received on .tv names usually start in the $1K or better range, which is cool. Sedo sends me the tard "$100 for sneakers.com" type offers everyday unfortunately and email offers on my dot coms which are pretty good, usually suck. Very rarely I'll get a good offer worth pursuing. Anyways those who wanna down play .tv go for it. I know better. My "scoreboard" bank account keeps reminding me. Then again, I've got some kick @$$ .tv names too if I don't say so myself!

Sneakers

I agree with you in regards to you owning some excellent premium names

 

[DnEbook]

if i owned travel.tv ....... well i think i would be happy , surely a good thing ???

 

[snoop]

if i owned travel.tv ....... well i think i would be happy , surely a good thing ???

I would imagine it would depend on the registration fee as to whether owning it is a good thing or not.