When a brandable marketplace...

[tomcarl]

....lists their top brandables on another marketplace, you can pretty much say the ship has sailed.

 

[Archangel]

Here ya are. I'm in Ohio (USA) so it might be a territory thing

 

[gina ferrano]

Likely a geography thing. But honestly one does what one must. Rader left BB and started BR, he's solicited folks on BB to list their names on BR. It's competitive.

 

[JB Lions]

Yeah, I only would have a problem with that kind of thing (and people have been sued) if you buy keywords and then pretend to be somebody else in the ad, someone clicks and goes to your site instead.

If BrandBucket bid on the keyword BrandRoot and in the ad said it was BrandRoot but when clicked went to BrandBucket. You can run into problems with that kind of thing.

Merely bidding on your competitor with a clear ad, to me is no different than Coke using Pepsi in their ads, letting people know they're the superior cola or Liquid Plumr going at Drano etc. These companies also buy keywords in a way at the cash register. Sometimes I buy a certain brand or product and get a coupon from the printout for a competing company. Companies use other companies all the time.

 

[NameOffice.]

Rader, not sure you saw other threads pertaining to BR, but wondering why there's such a backlog on names at present @ BR (description, logo, live) I do find it a bit ironic that BB is moving much, much more quickly all of a sudden. Though it may be that competitive spirit at play.

Brandroot has recently taken on such a huge number of submissions, almost all at once, that it has been nearly impossible to keep up while maintaining our current logo quality and writing. Submission acceptance on Brandroot is now determined by a few very experienced domainers who vote on each submission. If the name gets two accept votes, it get's accepted, while two reject votes gets rejected. The name then moves to a writers account, who is responsible for the writing and selecting categories. It then moves to pending logos where only a few accepted logo designers are working to create logos for this enormous backlog. This system was put in place to speed things up but unfortunately during its development things were slowed down quite dramatically. We are working hard to get things up to speed again. It's also not easy finding good logo designers who are willing to work for next to free. I apologize for the delays. Brandroot continues to prove itself as a surefire way to move domains. Most of our popular domainers sale 1-2 domains per month.

Thank you for your patience!

 

[Archangel]

True.I agree 100%. But BB is still being a prick doing this. "Oh, I've heard of this Brand Root thing. Let's search for it on Google." And ppl tend to click the first result or link on a SERPs, thus ppl who were iterested in Brand Root went to BrandBucket, instead.@margotb Care to explain why your company is being an asshole? Is it merely an "it's all just business" thing? You're stealing traffic and confusing users who may think both sites are one in the same. That makes you guys assholes in my book.

Likely a geography thing. But honestly one does what one must. Rader left BB and started BR, he's solicited folks on BB to list their names on BR. It's competitive.

 

[NameOffice.]

Likely a geography thing. But honestly one does what one must. Rader left BB and started BR, he's solicited folks on BB to list their names on BR. It's competitive.

We certainly did not solicit folks from BB. We grew very slowly and organically and let the sellers come to us. We did encourage some Brandroot users to sell exclusively with us early on, but only to our users, not BB's.

 

[Archangel]

Pepsi tells ppl to try Coke and vice-versa. But they at least differentiate each other. Thee is little differentiating when you search A, see B, and have no idea A and B aren't related

Yeah, I only would have a problem with that kind of thing (and people have been sued) if you buy keywords and then pretend to be somebody else in the ad, someone clicks and goes to your site instead.

If BrandBucket bid on the keyword BrandRoot and in the ad said it was BrandRoot but when clicked went to BrandBucket. You can run into problems with that kind of thing.

Merely bidding on your competitor with a clear ad, to me is no different than Coke using Pepsi in their ads, letting people know they're the superior cola or Liquid Plumr going at Drano etc. These companies also buy keywords in a way at the cash register. Sometimes I buy a certain brand or product and get a coupon from the printout for a competing company. Companies use other companies all the time.

 

[JB Lions]

Pepsi tells ppl to try Coke and vice-versa. But they at least differentiate each other. Thee is little differentiating when you search A, see B, and have no idea A and B aren't related

Well, they have different names, so unless you're reading disabled, it shouldn't be much of an issue. I know they're similar but tough. It's competition. It's allowed. Brandroot should just hop in and do the same thing, bid on Brandbucket. I've heard of some instances in the past where a trademark holder can stop people from using some keywords, had that happen in some of my ads many years ago. You can read up on the TM policy

https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6118?hl=en

 

[Archangel]

What I said about differentiating still stands in my book. But you're right: If BB does it to BR, might as well try it vice-versa.

Well, they have different names, so unless you're reading disabled, it shouldn't be much of an issue. I know they're similar but tough. It's competition. It's allowed. Brandroot should just hop in and do the same thing, bid on Brandbucket. I've heard of some instances in the past where a trademark holder can stop people from using some keywords, had that happen in some of my ads many years ago.

 

[Josh R]

BB is ridiculous... it's just a ton of bad names priced really high..anyone can make up names and call them brandable... the whole thing just annoys me.

 

[gina ferrano]

BB is ridiculous... it's just a ton of bad names priced really high..anyone can make up names and call them brandable... the whole thing just annoys me.

Then you're essentially saying all brandable sites are B.S. For those of us who have invested, time & money in brandables, I'll go so far as to say you're negating my own efforts by bad mouthing BB, BR, and the like. If anyone can make up names, then by all means you do it. But yeah, 70k for a .ly thats cray cray.

 

[gina ferrano]

BB owns Namerific now. From what I've heard, namerific has wait times exceeding 6 months. They sure bought a piece of work.

That's not actually true.(BB didn't buy NR) Not sure where you heard that or from whom. As for the 6 month wait times, it does seem the wait is longest with NR. BB and BR may be neck and neck, 1-2 months from what it seems now.

 

[NameOffice.]

That's not actually true.(BB didn't buy NR) Not sure where you heard that or from whom. As for the 6 month wait times, it does seem the wait is longest with NR. BB and BR may be neck and neck, 1-2 months from what it seems now.

Actually, it is true.

 

[gina ferrano]

Actually, it is true.

It's not true, but even if it were, I'm not sure why it's relevant to this thread which has gotten way off topic lol

 

[Archangel]

Threads tend to do that here lol

It's not true, but even if it were, I'm not sure why it's relevant to this thread which has gotten way off topic lol

 

[PeppyNames]

Let me jump in here...

Domain listings on Flippa: We have a great relationship with Flippa, and have been talking to them for over 6 months about how we can work together to increase exposure of the BrandBucket inventory. We are currently running a test -- with only names owned by us since we do not yet have permission from other domain owners -- to see if there's the possibility of a fruitful partnership. We will know after the auctions have run their course. We aren't hiding anything, as the auctions are under our account and most actually mention BrandBucket in the title. Businesses grow through experimentation and innovation, not by maintaining the status quo.

The whole "sinking ship" thing: This is based on two things that I see: 1) The fact that we don't list the names that we sold, and 2) the musings of a competitor, which apparently seem to be rubbing off on a lot of people on this forum.

Our business has always been that the customer comes first, and we WILL NOT compromise the decision we've made to keep our transactions private and out of the search engines since this is a huge concern for many of our customers. What I can share is that we are on track to exceed the $1M mark that we did last year, while maintaining an average sale price of about $2500.

My personal belief is that a business should be built on a great idea, hard work, and positivity. Words live forever on the internet, including negative ones, which is why I try to stay out of forum pettiness. The bottom line is that people choose to do business with people, and I want to be the kind of person that customers and domainers want to do business with in the long run. That's especially important since I and the company I built are supporting many more people than just myself.

Well in a reality its a shame that BB states "we are on track to exceed the $1M mark that we did last year". Last year you had a very selective small portfolio and $1M mark on it was something but by adding all the shitty names which BB has been doing recently and portfolio has increased by manyfolds and still just able to exceed by last year $1M is a shame IMO. From your business perspective it is alright from my perspective as an investor it is real bad as it devalues my quality name with really shitty ones which have flooded BB.

 

[DomainVP]

I'm sorry, but I have to ask, why would you possibly need to change all of your pages to HTTPS? Of course for purchase pages and logins... but name listings?? And your home page?? Not only will changing your pages to HTTPS likely slow down your website some but you've sacrificed pretty much all of your rankings in Google (how, I don't know)... for something not even Pinterest or even the web-development forum behemoth Stackoverflow does. Just curious I guess.

I think this was due to pre penguin & panda tactics that previously worked but became the death of many sites. Some sites cleaned it up in time to avoid big penalties, but some of that bad link juice remains and the updates seem to pick it up. That HTTPS explanation is just bogus, in the end I do think it was the remnants of bad pre 2011 SEO catching up; and sites doing good 'manual' SEO overcoming. Have you seen that backlink profile, yecht!

 

[equity78]

Actually, it is true.

Last time I spoke to Zane Gocha he said it is not true. I emailed Margot she said it was not true.

 

[gina ferrano]

Last time I spoke to Zane Gocha he said it is not true. I emailed Margot she said it was not true.

Yes no point in spreading rumors if they're not true. My source confirmed this as well.

 

[NameOffice.]

Interesting. When I spoke to Zane he said he had sold his interest in the company. I thought for sure he meant to BB. Sorry about that.