What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[TCK]

Nonsense. I included 2 links to 2 long posts in which I quote several of your posts in detail and rip them apart like cotton candy.

Since you keep babbling, pretending that I refuse to show why you're ridiculous, here is proof that I ridiculed you:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...-and-rob-monster.1128748/page-52#post-7199487

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...-and-rob-monster.1128748/page-53#post-7199656

Even if you don't understand why you're being ridiculed, you should at least be aware that you have been ridiculed – and thoroughly. Satire and reductio ad absurdum are their own self-contained explanations. Re-read the posts where I ridiculed your posts if you're unclear about why I found them ridiculous. And stop saying I've avoided the question, or else I'll keep posting the answer.

You mean this:

You might want to work out the bugs in your own definition of truth first.

You are indeed a master ridiculer.

“Fear of ridicule begets the worst cowardice.”

 

[Slanted]

Fear of ridicule begets the worst cowardice.

said the emperor with no clothes, boldly ignoring the laughter.

 

[TCK]

@Rob Monster

It appears you like talking about very dark conspiracy theories even when no one brings them up.

I guess you do believe in Pizzagate, then. Pretty clear. It was foolish of me to think that you would believe that it was debunked.

Earlier you had my post deleted when I posted a news story about a child that came out of a coma as a result of the Christchurch shooting. And lost her eyesight.

You said don't bring children into this discussion.

Now you are posting about child sex abuse rituals? The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

 

[Rob Monster]

@Rob Monster

It appears you like talking about very dark conspiracy theories even when no one brings them up.

I guess you do believe in Pizzagate, then. Pretty clear. It was foolish of me to think that you would believe that it was debunked.

Earlier you had my post deleted when I posted a news story about a child that came out of a coma as a result of the Christchurch shooting. And lost her eyesight.

You said don't bring children into this discussion.

Now you are posting about child sex abuse rituals? The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

There is a notable difference here.

Your one-liner about NZ was attempting to imply that Epik was somehow responsible for the death of a child. It was a tasteles, illogical non sequitur.

I reluctantly agreed to go back down the NZ rabbit hole in this thread. I have tried hard to avoid attacking anyone personally even as I try to understand what motivates people to act in certain ways in this thread.

I do find your actions to be a bit obsessive and irrational.

 

[TCK]

Your one-liner about NZ was attempting to imply that Epik was somehow responsible for the death of a child. It was a tasteles, illogical non sequitur.

Nowhere was there a mention of Epik in the post. It was simply a link and title of the piece.

You arrived at that conclusion without any help from me. You became infuriated and reported it to a moderator. Obviously the moderator trusted you in whatever reason you offered.

I don't think you have the freedom of speech to say who/what is obsessive or irrational after what you posted.

I am noticing that personal attacks from both you and @Slanted have increased recently. I would suggest you both stop posting and take a deep breath.

 

[.X.]

Nowhere was there a mention of Epik in the post. It was simply a link and title of the piece.

You arrived at that conclusion without any help from me. You became infuriated and reported it to a moderator. Obviously the moderator trusted you in whatever reason you offered.

I don't think you have the freedom of speech to say who/what is obsessive or irrational after what you posted.

I am noticing that personal attacks from both you and @Slanted have increased recently. I would suggest you both stop posting and take a deep breath.

If you will stop putting words in Rob Monsters mouth that he doesn’t state, maybe you will stop feeling attacked.

You have posted such things as “ So I guess you believe PizzaGate” and then adding bullshit to it to escalate things that he did not say.

So by assuming, it is starting unnecessary fucking shit, which is, and has been ridiculous through out this thread

I am not just pin pointing you, I see many posts that that have done the same thing, Rob Monster is asked a question, he answers the question, then their is a spin put on his answer , that is fucking bullshit

 

[TCK]

If you will stop putting words in Rob Monsters mouth that he doesn’t state, maybe you will stop feeling attacked.

You have posted such things as “ So I guess you believe PizzaGate” and then adding bullsh*t to it to escalate things that he did not say.

So by assuming, it is starting unnecessary f*cking sh*t, which is, and has been ridiculous through out this thread

I am not just pin pointing you, I see many posts that that have done the same thing, Rob Monster is asked a question, he answers the question, then their is a spin put on his answer , that is f*cking bullsh*t

Take it down a few notches. Will you?

Did Rob deny he believes Pizzagate was real (or anything about it)? No. Instead he posted about pedophilia and child sex abuse. We all can read that. What was Pizzagate about?

Also I am not putting words in anyone's mouth. However, you know who is putting words in my mouth.

So just take a breather.

 

[.X.]

So because he doesn’t “deny” that something is real or not, gives you the right to make a statement saying “ So I guess you believe in PizzaGate” , that is putting words in his mouth he did not state.

Further could be causing people to form an opinion on just that matter alone, not to mention the bushel full of assumptions that have been made in this thread.

You tell me to tone it down and take breather, this is just me, who I am


I am not mad or even upset, carry on

 

[Internet.Domains]

It's ironic that Rob has been most transparent and, by some accounts, remains most misunderstood. This is caused by putting words in his mouth, by spinning what he says. Its deceit.

One could argue that unfair accusations from the start was the root cause and impedes on a fair understanding. Conclusions were drawn prematurely from the start. Again, its deceit.

It's important to remain open to views other than your own. Respect the rights of fellow people. At the same time remember that the massive hate crimes are caused by people who can't accept or respect other peoples views. By not being respectful to views other than your own you have a lot in common with those that commit hate crimes.

Love more, hate less...Remain peaceful my friends!

 

[Slanted]

I am noticing that personal attacks from both you and @Slanted have increased recently. I would suggest you both stop posting and take a deep breath.

Once again, you are finding it difficult to distinguish between Rob Monster and me. We are 2 completely separate people. Try not to get mixed up.

Although this is 1 NamePros thread, you are currently having 2 separate conversations – 1 with Rob about pizza gate or the Bible and 1 with me that is not about those things at all. Again, try not to confuse the 2.

When did I personally attack you? You made a string of posts about Truth / Facts / Free Speech that I thought were nonsense. So I critiqued what you said. Pointing out when you say something incoherent – that is not a "personal attack".

After I showed you that your "definition" of Truth wouldn't support scrutiny, a mature response would have been to say: "Yeah, you're right. Let me try to formulate what I mean in a better way." Or else to point out why you disagree with the critique. Or else to move on to other topics.

Instead of any of those 3 mature responses, you went in a very different direction – squirming, accusing me of secretly being Rob Monster, and finally moaning about a "personal attack".

No, I have criticized your statements, not you. If you take that personally, then perhaps public debates aren't for you.

Sincerely, I enjoy picking bad arguments apart. I’m analytical by nature. Don’t take it personally. I want the same treatment myself.

 

[NameLlama]

One could argue that unfair accusations from the start was the root cause and impedes on a fair understanding. Conclusions were drawn prematurely from the start. Again, its deceit.

But you can't even read apparently?

You said that that blogger Shane accused Rob of racism? And he didn't? So .. maybe the problem is your reading comprehension, not people starting this thread unfairly?

"The racial hate that is flowing through using the assets of Rob Monster will eternally hurt more than any amount of stolen money will ever hurt."

'This statement is libelous by the accusation of racism and in conjunction with trying to cause financial harm.'

 

[offthehandle]

actually lay that outcome at the feet of Shane Cultra who I think was irresponsible in his damning and ill-informed commentary on a blog that apparent gave others the apparent license to pile on with condemnation.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...between-a-domain-blogger-and-a-troll.1049964/

https://www.namepros.com/threads/message-for-offthehandle.1050936/page-2#post-6445464

 

[Internet.Domains]

But you can't even read apparently?

You said that that blogger Shane accused Rob of racism? And he didn't? So .. maybe the problem is your reading comprehension, not people starting this thread unfairly?

"The racial hate that is flowing through using the assets of Rob Monster will eternally hurt more than any amount of stolen money will ever hurt."

'This statement is libelous by the accusation of racism and in conjunction with trying to cause financial harm.'

Putting words into peoples mouths seems to be repetitive in this thread. If you feel inclined to understand what I said, just ask for clarification. Please don't spin it.

 

[TCK]

So because he doesn’t “deny” that something is real or not, gives you the right to make a statement saying “ So I guess you believe in PizzaGate” , that is putting words in his mouth he did not state.

If you are asking me if I believe that Pizzagate is real and not debunked. Then my answer is NO.

Do you believe that Pizzagate is real, @Rob Monster?

 

[.X.]

See, I wasn’t asking you anything, exactly what I am talking about in this thread. Putting a spin on a post, I never once asked you rather PizzaGate was a real or not.

 

[NameLlama]

K

Putting words into peoples mouths seems to be repetitive in this thread. If you feel inclined to understand what I said, just ask for clarification. Please don't spin it.

Then the person can / could have point it out and condemn whoever did it
Slanted 'called out' a bunch of berryhill's posts when they seemed wrong to him
Not that hard or is it

 

[TCK]

See, I wasn’t asking you anything, exactly what I am talking about in this thread. I never once asked you rather you or anyone else though PizzaGate was a real or not.

The point you are making is that I am putting words in Rob's mouth. I think the evidence speaks for itself. With a simple post he can say one way or another where he stands on Pizzagate. Not answering and making posts precisely on the subject matter of Pizzagate should tell you where he stands.

In any case, I don't think he needs you to speak for him. He is perfectly capable of setting the matter straight.

The problem is he never posts anything direct. He just throws things out there: "I have some questions about this." or "I see problems about that.", "I haven't researched this fully but here's a video." No facts, just home-made videos. That does not sound like a truth-seeker to me but an armchair truth-denier.

 

[Internet.Domains]

K

Then the person can / could have point it out and condemn whoever did it
Slanted 'called out' a bunch of berryhill's posts when they seemed wrong to him
Not that hard or is it

I don't want to put words in your mouth. Please clarify. Start from the beginning because I have absolutely no idea what your speaking about or why you replied to me about others.

 

[NameLlama]

The point you are making is that I am putting words in Rob's mouth. I think the evidence speaks for itself. With a simple post he can say one way or another where he stands on Pizzagate. Not answering and making posts precisely on the subject matter of Pizzagate should tell you where he stands.

In any case, I don't think he needs you to speak for him. He is perfectly capable of setting the matter straight.

The problem is he never posts anything direct. He just throws things out there: "I have some questions about this." or "I see problems about that.", "I haven't researched this fully but here's a video." No facts, just home-made videos. That does not sound like a truth-seeker to me but an armchair truth-denier..

The goal is to drop truth bombs, trigger them SJWs, send people down 'rabbit holes'..
So much knowledge being shared in this thread. Without it, we wouldn't have discovered all these loony conspiracy theories

 

[Slanted]

Slanted 'called out' a bunch of berryhill's posts when they seemed wrong to him

Incidentally, I consider John Berryhill a personal friend to some degree. We criticize each other in public, and neither of us pulls any punches. No matter how brutal the criticism, it's always about the issues and the facts; and so it's always amicable. That's my ideal kind of discussion.