.mobi What the heck is going on?

[Keith]

I just saw inods thread about retiring as forum leader and moving on. I went to post a farewell and was somehow blocked and now the thread is deleted. I assume it is from all the mobi bickering. Why does the namepros management care about what is discussed or if threads get heated? It's not like we're shooting at each other here, just some good old back and forth on a touchy subject. And why would a goodby thread get deleted? This is not good form as far as I am concerned!

keithmt

 

[garrett200]

I don't know Keith. Some of the moderators here, and frankly some of the members, appear to be overly sensitive.

I don't think it should matter if threads get heated, as long as nobody breaks the rules and starts cussing people out or something.

I don't get the whole thing either. Maybe even this thread will get deleted.

Come on people, grow a backbone! Words can't hurt you, and as a matter of fact as long as you address the naysayer's concerns what do you have to worry about??

Frankly, I was a little disappointed when I heard that some good members left. I would have hoped they would have stayed and helped do their part to defend .mobi, but oh well.

 

[Mark]

FYI - Inod deleted the thread himself ......

Stop assuming.

 

[iNod]

Assumptions are a great way of life and how the world is run right now. We assume that the alarm clock will ring at 8:00 AM when we set it.. We assume that the car will work.

I have deleted the thread myself.. For the reasons of which I can't post because they will be deleted. Yes I am leaving for those who care.

- Steve

 

[dag]

Frankly, I was a little disappointed when I heard that some good members left. I would have hoped they would have stayed and helped do their part to defend .mobi, but oh well.

Time spent "defending" .mobi is time wasted. No one's going to have their mind changed, and we could all be doing something more productive with that time.

 

[seanboy]

Take care iNod. Good luck to you

 

[iNod]

I do not believe in fighting sadly.. Espically when members who fight get banned and the members who cause the fighting don't. <-- 1 Reason behind my leaving.

The others if you guys care are I need to spend some more time on other projects. I need to forfill my life and spend more time at school work and I need to get on with my life and finally get a social life.. How many times can I say life in a row? Apparently a lot..

- Steve

 

[Mark]

Post any thing you wish Inod ....

I stand behind my words 100% ~

You feel people Taking posts and threads from Namepros over to their new .mobi forum for something to redicule are "Great Members" were losing.

I Don't - I see them as childish People who were instigating things from day one (and continue too elsewhere).

God knows there should be more interesting things to post in a "New - 100% Positive" forum other then My Remarks (Which I still stand behind 100%) and others Posts/Threads ?

The name calling and veiled threats- Childish , No doubt. And I'm the one who has warned people on both sides of the arguement (Yes - Even warned long term members I consider Friends) .... So I'm just the SOB !

 

[scandiman]

Time spent "defending" .mobi is time wasted. No one's going to have their mind changed, and we could all be doing something more productive with that time.

:bingo:

Garrett, I've been addressing the naysayers concerns since I joined. I've labored to be a good member of NP in the process and I hope to continue to be one. But I'm done with the same old arguments and I personally find it impossible to continue discussing ways to build .mobi when a wrecking ball keeps dropping in. Time is precious and I'm done wasting it.

 

[iNod]

Putting words in my mouth is not a good idea. I never called you a SOB, so please don't make it seem as if I did. I put down my reasons.. With one of them being .mobi.. 1 out of like the 5 I posted.. I have no idea why you have to take offense to that. It is not your fault or anyones fault I am leaving, it is my choice. I am not fully leaving NP just retiring my mod position.. As I said the majority of the reasons are life.. One happens to be the .mobi

I stand by my words 100% aswell that is why I listed .mobi as a reason. Just as you.. We have two different point of views on the .mobi and both are strong.. Great Members can be defined many ways.. Like it or not .mobi is a section of your forum and is quite popular. Just like .tv and .us.. Loosing the people who made .mobi what it is today is basically loosing .mobi.. Or a part of the community. Loosing a figure who represents .mobi is also a big issue.

- Steve

 

[namewaiter]

I stand behind my words 100% ~

You feel people Taking posts and threads from Namepros over to their new .mobi forum for something to redicule are "Great Members" were losing.

I Don't - I see them as childish People who were instigating things from day one (and continue too elsewhere).

nevermind...

anyhow, sad, but good luck steve ... i'm sure i'll be discussing things somewhere in the future with ya!

 

[garrett200]

:bingo:

Garrett, I've been addressing the naysayers concerns since I joined. I've labored to be a good member of NP in the process and I hope to continue to be one. But I'm done with the same old arguments and I personally find it impossible to continue discussing ways to build .mobi when a wrecking ball keeps dropping in. Time is precious and I'm done wasting it.

I do get your point, but I don't think the defending serves to change their minds, but more to help us understand and weigh the pluses and potential pitfalls. If it's just a .mobi love fest, I feel that my judgement might get clouded by love if you know what I mean

 

[Keith]

This forum is about gathering of information, good or bad. People will get hot under the collar when they feel strong about their views but it's no reason to start deleting endless threads. Everyone is hurt in the end when info either way is cut off.

In a perfect world we could all share opposing viewpoints and all be merry but lets be realistic. Differing opinions are a necessity in making a wise decision about any investment. Please namepros, dont cut the lifeline!

If the personal attacks stop and we all stick to the subject at hand which is the pros and cons of .mobi. then there should be no issues.

keithmt

 

[Mark]

I didn't imply you called me one Steve .... It's the "View" of the ones I've warned when no one else would. Someone has to play "BadCop" all the time , It's not fun - But it has to be done.

As far as the "New Forum" goes - I wish everyone Good Luck with it .... I Really do , But don't let it get off tangent right to begin with - You'll be defeating the purpose of it in the first place.

 

[iNod]

Thanks Mark and yes you are right.. Somebody always has to be the bad cop.. But I thought it was me in this case

- Steve

 

[Mark]

We've all got heated over the subject ... No doubt about it - But that doesn't take away from the time you have put in here - For that you do deserve Thanks :tu: - Being a Moderator ANYWHERE is not as Glorious as most think - Period.

My point about the other forum "Going off Tangent" - Is that : You guys Didn't want the negative remarks here in NP/Mobi .... Why in the World are you allowing people to Copy those same negative remarks and post them there ? << Defeats the purpose IMO .... But As I've already told several people - By All means , Leave mine over there as I do stand behind them still.



Serenity now ..... Serenity now ..... Serenity now .....

 

[goodkarmaco]

Yes, I am concerned about all the deleted threads, just because the post gets a back and forth. I have no problem with a mod, coming inoto the post and making a comment to "tone it down please" or this is a warning to be "more civil" to other members.

Many times I think progress has been made when discussing something and then when I go to the post it has been deleted. Whats wrong with debate?

 

[scandiman]

I do get your point, but I don't think the defending serves to change their minds, but more to help us understand and weigh the pluses and potential pitfalls. If it's just a .mobi love fest, I feel that my judgement might get clouded by love if you know what I mean

I'm not sure which judgment you are concerned about clouding. Hopefully you can enlighten me.

The first issue that keeps getting worked over and over and over is if there is a point to having the .mobi tld and if it can capture and sustain any marketshare. If you find that you're not certain about this issue then I suggest you stop everything and make up your mind on the matter. Or else every new cell phone that comes along will make you have a cold sweat.

If you conclude that it does have a future then it's time to build towards that future. If the discussion of building the future keeps slipping to a discussion of mobi has no future then it becomes counter productive. The rules were set in place to help address these issues but they had little effect in stopping the tide of negativity. For my part, I wrongly assumed that NP members at large would honor the rules. Silly me.

Now if you are concerned about clouding your judgment about the quality of names you are registering or buying then again I suggest you stop everything and decide how you measure the quality of a name. Many mobi enthusiasts frown heavily on some of the names being reged and say so openly. Ultimately though it is up to you to decide where and how you are going to invest your money. If being berated with negative suppositions about .mobi helps you then it is your prerogative to surround yourself with it.

For me (and many others) I have decided there is a future in .mobi and I want to focus on building it. That focus is shattered IMO with constant negativity so this is not a good place for me to conduct that sort of discussion. NP is hands down the best general domainers forum I know of. But until .mobi has gained some respect in the community at large I don't see the flow of negativity slowing.

 

[Badger]

Hey hey, what did I miss....

Seems the day I try and passively become proactive in the .mobi sub forum is the same day iNod bails.. What gives...

"Uncertainty" is a doozy aint it... Add some uncertainty, some heavy investment, liberally douse it with some antagonistic "tyre kickers" and you have yourself the .mobi sub forum.

Heres where I suggest we go from now on.

If you are an investor: 1. Dont take all negative comments against the extension as personal slights. 2. Recognise that the extension has a good deal of uncertainty attached. 3. Don't try and create the news, post opinions "as news" or over hype some press release. 4. Most importantly of all, be objective.

If you are not an investor: 1. Refrain from being deliberately inflammatory, A, dont make the majority of your posts in the .mobi sub forum, and B, stop repeating yourself with identical comments made in the very next thread. 2. Respect the fact that investors in the space are anxious about the future prospects of .mobi and whilst its still uncertain, the last thing they need is goading. 3. If you are an experienced domainer in another genre, post for the common good.

Thats all folks... Feel free to add, contradict, tell me im talking BS or agree with what Ive said above... Its all good... And the .mobi sub forum can become the professional discussion room Im sure members of both pursuasions really wish it was

 

[RJ]

If you are an investor: 1. Dont take all negative comments against the extension as personal slights. 2. Recognise that the extension has a good deal of uncertainty attached. 3. Don't try and create the news, post opinions "as news" or over hype some press release. 4. Most importantly of all, be objective.

If you are not an investor: 1. Refrain from being deliberately inflammatory, A, dont make the majority of your posts in the .mobi sub forum, and B, stop repeating yourself with identical comments made in the very next thread. 2. Respect the fact that investors in the space are anxious about the future prospects of .mobi and whilst its still uncertain, the last thing they need is goading. 3. If you are an experienced domainer in another genre, post for the common good.

Well said, Ian.