What The Heck Is Going On With Tdnam

[circa1850]

Today I recieved a series of emails from TDNAM within 30 minutes of each other that raise serious suspicions of sales or serious improprieties after winning four different auctions recently. To get the full gist of the issue, please read all emails as well as my response.
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Thank you for using The Domain Name Aftermarket (TDNAM). Unfortunately, FOSSIL.INFO and NEAR.INFO was listed as Expired Name Auctions in error. This transaction has been cancelled and you will be refunded for your payment. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

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My response to TDNAM/GoDaddy

How is it even REMOTELY possible for TDNAM, which is solely owned by GoDaddy, to list two expired domain names in "error"?

It is also VERY SUSPICIOUS being that I first get an email stating MY QUESTION HAS BEEN RECIEVED (incident 1532282) when an inquiry was never submitted by me which was timed at 113 pm. This was followed by a response in less than 30 minutes at 132 pm INFORMATION REGARDING YOUR SUPPORT REQUEST outlining that an error has been made. I do not believe for one minute that my account has been compromised but rather believe I that something else is going on and someone is attempting to cover up their actions at my expense.

Why is it just now coming to your attention, and then to my attention, more than a month after the domain name expired and was won by me in auction? According to WHOIS information, the new expiration date is December 1, 2007 which indicates that the previous expiration date in "error" was December 1, 2006. Who actually initiated the inquiry and where did the inquiry originate from? Was it internal?

As a whole owned entity of GoDaddy, TDNAM sole purpose of being is to auction off expired and expiring domain names of and for GoDaddy. It is impossible for me to imagine how an "error" like this could possibly occur.

Also on the same day, today, I received notification of two domains that I recently won were reclaimed by their owner. They are CMR.INFO and GGW.INFO which, remarkably, are owned by the same individual listed in the WHOIS database as the person who now owns FOSSIL.INFO and NEAR.INFO.

Yet, no such email was sent regarding FOSSIL.INFO and NEAR.INFO, which supposedly expired more than a month ago, was sent as a courtesy notification.

Surprisingly, the domain name is now registered to the same person as GGW.INFO and CMR.INFO. Even more surprisingly, the domain names are now in the possession of someone who has transferred them to the registrar service of MONIKER.

How is it even possible for GoDaddy to auction domain names that are at MONIKER when MONIKER has their own auction service, and to the best of my knowledge, a totally separate entity and with no affiliation to GoDaddy?

I think a further explanation other than "in error" is needed as this is a little more than a curious as to how this possibly could have happened.

To say that I have questions and suspicions as to how this happened or could even possibly happened is an understatement. I will be looking into this matter and bringing to the attention of sources from outside of GoDaddy/TDNAM as well as explore the possible legal avenues that I have regarding this "error".

Regards,

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This is so far fetched. My response was sent to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected].

I have serious suspicions that there was some deal making going on after the close of the auctions, perhaps to a larger customer than I who gets preferential treatment. I realize that these are serious allegations. But when 1+1+1+1=3, then something is not adding up.

I have saved all the WHOIS information as it is currently registered should someone get the bright idea to make this info private.

Naturally, TDNAM/GoDaddy has refunded all the auction fees and registration fees associated with these four domain names but this is of little consequece under these circumstances.

Paranoid? No. An expired domain name is an expired domain name and it does not all of a sudden end up at another registrar with a new registrant more than a month after I won it at auction.

And the alledged letters sent and responded to by TDNAM today are purely bogus, especially when they are personally addressed to me and to the email that TDNAM has on file.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[dotnom]

Out of the millions of customers they have, probably the only people who notice these problems, are knowledgable about them and have issues with them are domainers. But they don't really market to domainers, so that should be your first clue that their services, while good, are probably not upto par for a knowledgable domainer

GoDaddy market his services for end-users
Experienced people follow end users to make their job easier and this create the known company monster we call GoDaddy

 

[Jasdon]

I'm Scott Loggins, technical product manager of GoDaddy's TDNAM.com. We want to assure you that we have corrected the problem and taken the appropriate action on any affected names. The problem affected a small number of listings. We have also put processes in place to prevent this from happening again. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused our customers and we are currently contacting them to personally explain what happened.

No-one has contacted me yet, despite having bought 3 of the affected names - anyone been contacted ?

 

[Lasher]

I heard a rumor someone posted a link to this thread to the owner of nodaddy.com

 

[AzN]

I am not sure at the time domains were listed were expired but I have ran domain history for all four domains. Previous registrants listed is the exact one listed today. I do not think the domains were actually expired but there was a glitch in the Godaddy system.

Note that all the whois used the same email @bluepixel

Whois History:
https://vietfresh.net/https/adds.info.12.01.2005.txt
https://vietfresh.net/https/cmr.info.02.26.2004.txt
https://vietfresh.net/https/fossil.info.12.02.2004.txt
https://vietfresh.net/https/fossil.info.12.27.2006.txt
https://vietfresh.net/https/near.info.01.27.2005.txt
https://vietfresh.net/https/near.info.12.30.2006.txt

 

[-db-]

For the record, I've edited the title to "What The Heck Is Going On With Tdnam". Nothing personal, but I'm tired of logging in all week to see "What The F***" at the top of the forum.

Thanks for your understanding.

 

[-JC-]

For the record, I've edited the title to "What The Heck Is Going On With Tdnam". Nothing personal, but I'm tired of logging in all week to see "What The F***" at the top of the forum.

Thanks for your understanding.

:lol: tbh me too

 

[namenut]

whooa !! :yell:

I felt bad when I lost "networking.info" to one of these GD mishaps. Especially bad having thought I just nabbed a premium name only to be dry humped by GD. But "this", some how, dwarfs my issue.

I'll be transferring to Moniker, it seems, as they come up for renewal. GD has overly complicated it's CP and interface. The check out system and ad-on marketing is tacky, at best, and for certain annoying. The creative reasoning's are painfully insulting. As Circa states it will just take time to get so may out!

I feel for you "Circa". Empathize to be more accurate. And might I say quite rattled by this post. Here are a few names off the top of my head they have allowed me to reg only to give me some reason they had to cancel them.

NetWorking.info
Dreams.info
Sexy.fm
France.net.uk

And a few others I'd have to look up (And get upset over again) to list them all.

"Parsoning" "The act of systematically transferring one's domain name registration away from, out-of or beyond the control of Godaddy.com.

I use to really like GD. :td:


namenut

 

[hounddomain]

I heard a rumor someone posted a link to this thread to the owner of nodaddy.com

Lasher - Earlier in this post is a copy of an email I sent to the President of GoDaddy which did include a copy of the link to this forum. I also posted their offices response which was total bullsh*t and stock standard form response IMHO. I didn't think to post it to the owner of nodaddy.com; wish I had though!


I personally believe Parsons should get on here and explain what is REALLY going on at GoDaddy.

Some decent response from Scott Loggins would also be appreciated - but I doubt that either of them will be forthcoming about the situation.

Do you think GoDaddy and TDNAM would sit up and take notice if this issue got publicised? Anyone here have links with the US media - I'm sure they would be far more concerned about negative US media attention due to their consumer base (I'm based in Australia).

 

[circa1850]

Here are some long overdue updates on this episode:

What can we as domainers and Internet users do to resolve these issues? That is the question we should all ponder.

Good question, JC. Until there is a body or entity that is willing to enforce its own regulatory policies, then it is up to folks like us to expose these issues regarding the shoddy practices of registrars. Registrars exist by paying ICANN enormous fees to become a registrar. ICANN exists to govern and regulate not only the registering of domain names but also the governance of registrars. I think ICANN has on all accounts failed the end user...us.

I'm Scott Loggins, technical product manager of GoDaddy's TDNAM.com. We want to assure you that we have corrected the problem and taken the appropriate action on any affected names. The problem affected a small number of listings. We have also put processes in place to prevent this from happening again. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused our customers and we are currently contacting them to personally explain what happened.

Scott, when we are talking tens of thousands of domain names a week, I am sure in your eyes that several hundred domain names wrongfully auctioned off is indeed a "small number of listings".
Would you care to define or give a number to exactly what qualifies as a "small number of listings"?

Would you also like to enlighten us as to how many individuals were affected by this snaffu?

Would you also care to respond as to why these auctions were permitted to continue to run their course when three individuals have provided first hand accounts of notifying the staff that these domain names were not expired and were at other registrars?

So far, in this entire thread, i was rather on the passive side, however, when BULLS**T responses like these, from the self declared largest and most progressive registrants, are posted on a public board, then even i'm getting beyond pissed.
If you, Scott Loggins, had followed the ENTIRE thread, actually would have done your homework instead of responding with a standardized crap post, then you would have also realized that the problem had been "fixed" before, yet situations keep occurring!

Wow, how can you not sense something in your gut when you do read a response like that from a giant in the industry. It is hard to remain passive when we are talking about the largest registrar allowing to go unchecked and offering assurances long after the fact. That fact being that this was allowed to go on for weeks even after they were made aware of the domain names not being expired.

I've never used TDNAM before, but this makes me never what to buy from them, no matter what canned responses are posted here.[/B]

The shame of it is there are some who became suspicious early on when their names were being reclaimed and started to do a WHOIS on names that they were bidding on only to find out they were not expired. Isn't this supposed to be someone else's duty?

It is an absolute shame that potential buyers or bidders have to do a WHOIS to validate the claim that the domain name is expired and in possession of GoDaddy.

If he contributes and makes something good at the domain industry i have the courage to clap. So far i don't see anything

:lala: Do you get the impression that GoDaddy is it's own biggest fan?

Why they ever made TDNAM is beyond me. It's obviously just a ploy to profit from their expired domains, but it is in no way setup, run, or adequately equipped for a serious domain aftermarket.

Obviously, you hit the nail on the head. Doubtful there will be any debate whatsoever regarding this statement.

No-one has contacted me yet, despite having bought 3 of the affected names - anyone been contacted ?

Somehow, when Tim Ruiz, the VP of GoDaddy, called me and told me that he was personally contacting all the buyers who were affected by this, I wondered how far down that list he would make it.

Then by all means, allow me to enlighten you and supply you with the necessary information you need to voice your concerns.

Scott Loggins
Domain Services
GoDaddy Software
[email protected]
Ph 319.294.3932

Tim Ruiz
Vice President
Corp. Development & Policy
The Go Daddy Group, Inc.
[email protected]
Ph 319.329.9804

And while we are at it, allow me to add this "pat on the back" from one of GoDaddy's own for a job well done, of which I was included in the email. I guess it was intended to give me a warm fuzzy feeling all over.
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Tim,

Thank you for offering to help in this complicated matter and for
reaching out to the customer. We appreciate greatly your intervention
as I am sure you have insights none of us in OOP can offer regarding
this scenario. If we can assist in any manner, do not hesitate to let
us know.

Regards,

Karen Gaydos

Office of the President
GoDaddy.com
14455 N Hayden Ste 226
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
(480) 505-8828 Phone
(480) 275-3975 Fax
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So, while you're at it, contact Karen and have her retract her compliments on a job well done.

I heard a rumor someone posted a link to this thread to the owner of nodaddy.com

Up until last night, I think that was just a rumor. No link had appeared.

But, as of this morning, I was contacted via email by Fydoor, the creator of NoDaddy.com, and the founder of SecLists.Org which was pulled by GoDaddy for alledged violations.

I will admit that I have been tied up on other projects and when I started reviewing this post, I was amazed to see that it continues on with more members weighing in on this issue and even more coming forward to claim their names had been "reclaimed".

As mentioned earlier, it appears that it is up to the very individuals who make up NamePros and other forums to alert each other and the industry as a whole when it comes to any wrongdoing.

Whether it is the giants like GoDaddy/TDNAM or the individual on ebay or other sites scamming for the sake of a buck or two, I think these forums have done more for identifying issues and problems, as well as the good, in the domain industry. So, give yourself a pat on the back.

I do not think the domains were actually expired but there was a glitch in the Godaddy system.

You are correct, the domains were not actually expired. And that "glitch" in the GoDaddy system was failure on the part of individuals at TDNAM/GoDaddy to listen to and pay attention to it's own very members when TDNAM/GoDaddy was alerted to this very fact. Yet TDNAM/GoDaddy insisted that they, the members, were wrong and allowed the domain name auctions to continue.

Admittedly, we all know the customer is not always right. Not once have I seen anyone from GoDaddy/TDNAM publically acknowledge that they were in fact made aware that these domains were not expired even before the auction was set to end.

For the record, I've edited the title to "What The Heck Is Going On With Tdnam". Nothing personal, but I'm tired of logging in all week to see "What The F***" at the top of the forum.

Thanks for your understanding.

I think we all understand. And for the record, DB has been notified of the potential story line and link on NoDaddy. I hope he is understanding in this matter.

And for the record, I never put in the actual three letters that appear as ***. :notme:

I didn't want to get kicked off the forum, yet. :gl:

Here are a few names off the top of my head they have allowed me to reg only to give me some reason they had to cancel them.

NetWorking.info
Dreams.info
Sexy.fm
France.net.uk

And a few others I'd have to look up (And get upset over again) to list them all.

"Parsoning" "The act of systematically transferring one's domain name registration away from, out-of or beyond the control of Godaddy.com.

I use to really like GD. :td:


namenut

Again, I recall bidding on those two .info domain names, if I recall correctly. There was an abundance of top quality .info domains that came up which should have been a tip off that something was wrong. I guess I had too many other things going on to really see behind the scenes. Thank goodness some other members got suspicious and started digging deeper.

But even with their knowledge that the names were not expired and at other registrars, they were told they were wrong when they contacted TDNAM/GoDaddy.

On a lighter note, now that everyone is coming forward to disclose which domain names they have had "repossessed", now I know who my competition was all along in these auctions. :p

I personally believe Parsons should get on here and explain what is REALLY going on at GoDaddy.

I do believe that is overdue.

Considering that I know of someone who personally contacted Bob and posted this episode on his blog, he is aware of it. If he is not aware of it, he needs to refocus his attention away from himself for the moment and refocus his attention on his own empire.

Yet he is more concerned with self promotion and bitching and whining about his cheesy super bowl ads not being allowed to be aired than he is about his own customer base.

Is it that Bob and company is being censored by the FTC and he is crying "foul!" Is this the same censorship machine that pulled SecLists.Org off of the internet?

How much is all of this going to cost GoDaddy? Considering that there were most likely tens of thousands of dollars in lost revenue due to returning money for domain auctions and sales of domains that were never actually expired, that is but one factor.

Considering that I will be moving all my domains out of GoDaddy accounts and my reseller account...instead of paying renewal fees to GoDaddy over the course of the year, there's about another $20,000-$25,000 in lost revenue from one customer.

I don't have the exact figures, but between purchases on TDNAM, commission fees paid to TDNAM from sale proceeds, domain name registration and renewal fees to GoDaddy, domain name registration and renewal fees to my Wild West Domain reseller account, web hosting accounts, yearly fees for renewing my Super Reseller account...I guess we are looking at somewhere in the area of $75,000.

If GoDaddy can stand to lose me, then I never mattered to them to begin with. That is revenue they will easily make up in a matter of a couple of days. But how many account holders, both big and small, can they afford to lose before Bob Parsons takes notice?

Perhaps withdrawing another IPO will cause not only the domain industry and registrar industry to take notice, but it will also get the attention of investors on Wall Street.

 

[-JC-]

Considering that I will be moving all my domains out of GoDaddy accounts and my reseller account...instead of paying renewal fees to GoDaddy over the course of the year, there's about another $20,000-$25,000 in lost revenue from one customer.

Considering if GoDaddy had addressed this issue in a different and better manner, then you may have continued to stay with them for years to come. If that was so, then that $20,000 would essentially be $200,000 in lost revenue ... just from the renewals on the names you own now. This is not including new registrations in the coming years.

I guess that some companies live in the 'here and now' and do not plan ahead for their future. If this is so, then why do customers want to be part of the companies future?

As soon as I am able to ... my domains will all be transferred to Moniker!

 

[circa1850]

Considering if GoDaddy had addressed this issue in a different and better manner, then you may have continued to stay with them for years to come. If that was so, then that $20,000 would essentially be $200,000 in lost revenue ... just from the renewals on the names you own now. This is not including new registrations in the coming years.

Not only would I most likely be staying, I would also not be spending money to transfer out my domains. That is money I could have put to use elsewhere, not to mention the time involved.

I guess that some companies live in the 'here and now' and do not plan ahead for their future. If this is so, then why do customers want to be part of the companies future?

Their future does not include me, obviously, but the newcomers that they will bring in. But to lose large account holders?

Is there any wonder that TDNAM/GoDaddy has so many expired domain names to auction off? If these are all newbies or newcomers regging domains for the sake of regging domains and then letting them drop in a year's time, what is happening to their customer base?

As soon as I am able to ... my domains will all be transferred to Moniker!

I'll see ya' there!

 

[circa1850]

Some updates.

Frank is a member of NamePros. He has been quite involved with this whole mess and has repeatedly addressed the issue with GoDaddy/TDNAM and Bob Parsons' weekly address and blog.

Frank finally got an answer and wanted me to post it.

Thanks, Frank, for all your help.

NOTE: If you don't want to read it, then don't read it. If you have no desire to read the "bitching and whining" as some of our intellects have so put it, then move on. Some of us who lost names won at auctions and had tens of thousands of dollars at stake might be interested. This information and the reading of it is strictly voluntary.

Hi Gerry,

It's me Frank.

I couldn't answer earlier, i am just packed with launching a project.
And because of that, i've overseen an answer from godaddy on 01-29-2007(it ended up in my spamfolder),

don't know if everything is resolved or in the process of it, i just thought i will post it...

Here it is:

Frank

I want to assure that Bob is aware of the issue we experienced recently with certain TDNAM listings. As noted in our post to the forums, we did discover a technical issue that has since been addressed to prevent recurrence.

Our team has worked diligently to speak with the customers involved in these cases.

Well I was unable to access the link you posted below, I appreciate you posting your comments to Bob.

Warren

Warren Adelman
President & COO
GoDaddy.com
[email protected]
tel. (480)505-8835
fax. (480)275-3990


I really like the part"i couldn't access the link"

(Feel free to post it in the forum, unfortunately i dont have the time for read everything right now and to participate)

Cheers,

Frank

Hello Frank, where to begin…

I want to assure that Bob is aware of the issue we experienced recently with certain TDNAM listings. As noted in our post to the forums, we did discover a technical issue that has since been addressed to prevent recurrence.

It would be nice for Bob to address the issue but I am sure that is not on his agenda. I have noticed he deflects criticism and “issues” onto his underlings, or “Little Daddys”. Then again, this is standard business practices and protocols when you are the CEO of a large company like GoDaddy. That is why you hire qualified and competent people to run the company’s day to day business, affairs, and operations.

Time and time again, it was NOT a technical issue. It was mostly human error on the part of TDNAM and GoDaddy employees. At least three people have made claims and have supplied proof that they alerted TDNAM/GoDaddy staff that there were numerous names being auctioned off that were not expired and not in the possession of GoDaddy. It is my understanding that the rightful owner of nearly 2000 names being auctioned off also contacted GoDaddy.

TDNAM/GoDaddy wants to claim problems with the .info registry. At least that is what they told me. But even when I looked up the domain names won in a WHOIS database, I could see that they were not expired and were at Moniker. That is all any one person contacted at TDNAM/GoDaddy had to do to verify that something was not the way it should have been. I would think that by the third time a person made this claim that I would have hoped someone would have taken the matter more seriously and dug a little deeper. Just by randomly selecting one name mentioned and doing a very simple and basic WHOIS search should have and would have alerted TDNAM/GoDaddy to the problem. Instead, these three people who alerted TDNAM/GoDaddy were blown off by the staff.

These “people” or “persons” I am referring to are not just someone who randomly chose to call or email TDNAM/GoDaddy. They were customers. Had anyone on the staff at TDNAM/GoDaddy taken the time to verify any one name in contention, this matter would have been addressed then and there. Instead it was allowed to happen, the auctions ran their course, the names were sold, and customers were lied to, mislead, and deceived. And how many customers that are out there that are not members on these forums that have no idea what actually happened? They just assumed that when they got the “customer reclaimed” notice that the customer reclaimed the domain name during the redemption period.

Our team has worked diligently to speak with the customers involved in these cases.

I got a call from Tim Ruiz and Tim Ruiz also visited one of the forums and made such a claim. Tim related to me that he was personally calling everyone involved. Yet I read these forums and that is not the case. Numerous people (again, customers of TDNAM/GoDaddy) have not gotten a call from anyone. So, I would have to answer no, it has not been resolved in the sense of the follow up from TDNAM/GoDaddy as they stated on the forums.

The damage is done and long live the king. I just read where GoDaddy is quite happy with the new registrations and once again their superbowl ads have been successful in signing up more customers.

Being members of this forum, I think it is safe to assume that there are some serious domainers here with some serious portfolios. I know I’m one. I also know that many of these large portfolio holders have taken note of this issue and are closing out their GoDaddy accounts. I know I’m one.

And most of us do not let our domain names drop or expire. Sure, we’ve regged some dogs occasionally and we’ll delete some every now and then and let them drop or expire. But not many.

Looking at today’s number of domain names being auctioned off on TDNAM, of the 1,405,424 domain names, I wonder how many of those were registered after last years successful GoDaddy ads appeared on the SuperBowl? How many of them are one time registrants? Even if we go 50/50 split…half TDNAM/half private auctions…that is still more than 700,000 domains a day being auctioned off by GoDaddy/TDNAM. That many have dropped, expired, or have been deleted. Last year’s successful Super Bowl ad campaign?

No wonder you can call yourself the largest registrar in the world!

 

[JimCato.com]

hmmm after reading this and reading from Nodaddy.com I really dont want to buye more from gd and when ever i get the chance i will tranferre all my domains to a other registry...

Not to change the topic but the Myspace and gd case is really disturbing.

People should go to a other registry to show them who really have the power... But people will always go to the cheapest place...

 

[-JC-]

But people will always go to the cheapest place...

People will always go to the most 'advertised' cheapest place. There are cheaper registrars out there.

I just hate the GD commercials! Yes, the women are extremely hot :red but selling domain names with a sex themed ad is sad. Just think what that says for the rest of the domain community as a whole!


Is GoDaddy going to be the big 'Enron scandal' of the domain industry?

:imho: the 'largest' registrar is going to fall harder than Goliath did.

 

[buckshotdots]

godaddy name in auction at snapnames

I really found this odd last month...I won a name in auction at snapnames and it turned out it was reg at godaddy. Odd, wouldnt godaddy auction it off at TDNAM?
ALso I have transferred out 2 names from a reg and it still shows on my list of domains even though its somewhere else. I guess I should complain and make them take it off (I brought it up once and they said not to worry as it was a computer error and nothing to worry about). Very interesting post!

gary-

 

[circa1850]

I really found this odd last month...I won a name in auction at snapnames and it turned out it was reg at godaddy. Odd, wouldnt godaddy auction it off at TDNAM? gary-

Yup, I would call that odd. The whole purpose of TDNAM's existence is to auction off expiring or expired GoDaddy domain names. TDNAM (The Domain Name After Market).

 

[Jasdon]

I really found this odd last month...I won a name in auction at snapnames and it turned out it was reg at godaddy. Odd, wouldnt godaddy auction it off at TDNAM?

If they don't get a bid on TDNAM, they go to Snapnames - not sure if all names do, but some do for sure.

BTW - still no-one has contacted me.....

 

[circa1850]

If they don't get a bid on TDNAM, they go to Snapnames - not sure if all names do, but some do for sure.

BTW - still no-one has contacted me.....

Sounds like you need to get Tim Ruiz's number off this thread and ask him...what's what? Not on did he tell me that he was personally calling everyone involved, he even posted this on DNF but I am unable to locate the thread.

 

[Jasdon]

Sounds like you need to get Tim Ruiz's number off this thread and ask him...what's what? Not on did he tell me that he was personally calling everyone involved, he even posted this on DNF but I am unable to locate the thread.

I took the numbers down - I'm just leaving a 5 week span from his post to me calling him; that way they can't wriggle out of it - vacations, off work sick for 2 weeks etc...in the meantime I'll keep posting every week or so to prove they care so little that they haven't bothered to revisit this thread.

BTW, if you do check this thread Godaddy - I'd prefer an email to a personal call - it's more permanent.

 

[hounddomain]

I took the numbers down - I'm just leaving a 5 week span from his post to me calling him; that way they can't wriggle out of it - vacations, off work sick for 2 weeks etc...in the meantime I'll keep posting every week or so to prove they care so little that they haven't bothered to revisit this thread.

BTW, if you do check this thread Godaddy - I'd prefer an email to a personal call - it's more permanent.

Any more updates on this?