advice We'll register all 7N.com - We need your help (Not your money)

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Before starting to share with you what we're going to do, I'd like to ask to all skeptics to avoid any possible negative comment because we're just asking for your help (as you'll read below), not for your money :)

This's a stange but true story of course even if I'll not share all details of it to safeguard the privacy of the interested parties.

One month ago, a friend of mine knew a rich businessman to a business seminar in Rome (Italy) so they took a coffee together and talked for few hours about multiple topics.
This person explained he's actually leading multiple successful companies (in diff. fields) with a turnover of few million euros per month.

He loves the capitalism but he's even more interested in new ways to invest his funds for an easy and high return.
He loves the risk especially where there's a chance to quintuple a big capital in few months.

Few days ago, I talked again with my friend about his businessman and I spend few hours to explain him what "web domains" are, the big speculation around this market etc .. ok he learned a lot by me so we decided to approach again "his new friend" to propose him a big and ambitious project: registering all remaining 7N.com (excl those with 0-4) to dominate the niche.

Well, he had a first long phone chat with this businessman, he knoe what "domains" are but not the market around them and not even about the growing numeric market.
Now he wants to meet again my friend to discuss more in details the whole project and he'll come with other 2 rich partners.
We've given him a general idea of the needed investment before calculating the number of available 7N etc ... $15M
He didn't get impressed especially when my friend explained it's a totally legit activity and once we'll have reserved all these numbers, their market value will instantly start to grow.

Now he wants to know more details about this project and we're working on them.
He advanced we'll not administer his money (obviously) but his lawyer will do it by following carefully our instructions.
There're still many steps to follow, to write a legal agreement which will safeguard the interest of the involved parties etc ...

If he'll agree to move forward, this will probably happens in the first week of December.
My friend explained him this's a middle term investment but he confirmed to have no hurry to monetize the important is to have a way to verify his investment is getting a good return in terms of value of the acquired assets (as he called the "domains").

I know this will be an hard venture, we'll have to ask for the cooperation of our Gd agent to register a so big number of domains by getting directly in touch with the lawyer who'll adminster the funds etc ...

Ok this's our problem but if the investment should go through, "all players will benefit" by the growing value of this niche.

Why am I sharing this story with you ? :)
We've no way to check the availability of a so big number of domains and not even a way to be sure to have extracted all 7N without 0-4

May someome confirm the number if possible 7N combimation excluding 0-4 ?
We should be aroud 2,097.730 (more or less) but I'm not a mathematician so I've used some complex techniques to setup this list.

If someone has a way to quickly check their availability and to supply the full available list, we'd appreciate it.
Here's the full list of 7N (excl 0-4) that I've created: www.dnempire.com/7n.rar

If you can help with the following steps, the game will start soon :)

You can email the list to: domainsales (at) domainempire.com

***Last second update:
We've just been confirmed that 7N w/out 0-4 are exactly 2097152 so we only need your help to find a way to check for their availability in bulk in order to give an estimate budget to our investor even if every week some dozens of thousands are sold out.
The easy way will be to ask to our Gd agent/Gd staff to grab all the available ones at the time of receipt of the funds but I must know first how many of them are still available and "a first version" of the list if someone knows how doing this job :)
 
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AfternicAfternic
Bad bet.

Your investor will probably make money, while leaving the stooges holding the bag.

This is precisely why large buyouts of stocks by one or two people on the stock market is illegal.

This is just a variation of the well-known Ponzi scheme: corner the market, sell what you can for big bucks, then sell for fewer bucks, and then get out (allow domains to expire), flooding the market with useless domains.

But I won't be one of the stooges. I already have all the 7N that I need, and I will continue to diversify my portfolio.

Quite frankly, your rich investor is a bit late to the game and would be better off going after some undervalued aftermarket domains, but what do I know?
 
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It looks strange to me, but when I thought over it, I realized that it will definitely pay him off. Think of it this way; if very few people are holding the keys of world virtual properties in their archive and when they are needed, you must look for it at all cost.

But before the buyout, I wish you think over the renewal fees in case of the left overs.

7 is a precious number and Chinese will definitely buy them from him if the western world refuses to buy. Period.
 
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I see both sides.

If a domain category becomes hot, we ALL want the opportunity and the foresight to register as many of the best names in that category that we can afford. Most of us can become players in the market, but cannot afford to invest in such a scope that we manipulate the market.

The market will likely be consumed by domain investors anyway. We might not have the intent of personally having a hand in making sure these domains become scarce and artificially inflating the value, but all of us who are snatching up these names are betting that it will happen and investing with the hope of benefiting from it.
 
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Perspective : lets say 100 million end users in china. A very small percentage of the population of 3 billion
Go even further buy up all the 8 and 9 combos too. Numbers are the communication tool.
Now that your convinced, you should also buy up all of the short NNL, LLN NLN, LNL combos in .com, .net,.org too as they are selling well on the chinese market places. Don't stop there. buy up all of the left over 4N 5N 6N 7N 8N 9N's in .top .xin, .co, .win which are also popular in the chinese market.
Almost forgot you may need a chinese partner to divest.
The strategy is somewhat flawed given all of the other combos available.
I am happy to have a 10% commission on the money your investor saves by saying no.
I hope you have the ethics to present the whole picture.
Cheers !
 
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Perspective : lets say 100 million end users in china. A very small percentage of the population of 3 billion
Go even further buy up all the 8 and 9 combos too. Numbers are the communication tool.
Now that your convinced, you should also buy up all of the short NNL, LLN NLN, LNL combos in .com, .net,.org too as they are selling well on the chinese market places. Don't stop there. buy up all of the left over 4N 5N 6N 7N 8N 9N's in .top .xin, .co, .win which are also popular in the chinese market.
Almost forgot you may need a chinese partner to divest.
The strategy is somewhat flawed given all of the other combos available.
I am happy to have a 10% commission on the money your investor saves by saying no.
I hope you have the ethics to present the whole picture.
Cheers !
Hmm China has approx 1.3 billion as a correction as if it matters lol!
 
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Are there still patterns left in 7N?
 
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thank u for catching the typo artstar. yes 1.3 billion and yes lol with all the other options available
 
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Yes, there are a fair few patterns in 7N. Not much in the way of 888's or 88's. Drops with those are harder to find too, since they're picked up within hours.
 
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Random 7N's, 8N's, etc. will be worthless. Period.

In fact, random 6N's are dubious.

Barnum and Bailey got it right: "A Sucker is Born Every Minute."

This is why Ponzi schemes continue to make money for con men and women.

And this silly buyout scheme is a hilariously obvious Ponzi scheme in the making, similar to schemes in which a group of operators buy up penny stocks for dirt cheap, create a demand, artificially drive up the price, create a frenzy via hype, sell at a higher price, make their money, flood the market with worthless paper, dump their remaining inventory, and then skip town (in this case, park their money in the Cayman Islands, LOL).

Just keep in mind that trusting "trusted" members can have negative outcomes; in this case, it looks as though the OP is being played by someone with nefarious intentions (a good con requires a patsy, an outsider) and who may or may not have deep pockets to pull it off -- or may be someone who uses early earnings to buy more cheap inventory and churns out more sales (the frenzy).

A truly wealthy person would buy prime aftermarket domains at wholesale prices and sell at end user prices (or hold).

All you need to do is read the very long thread right here on Namepros about a formerly trusted domainer who took a lot of people for a financial ride:

For you newbies who haven't read this thread, I urge you to do so. It's an eye opener and depicts how people who present themselves well aren't always what they seem.

This is especially true on the web, where eye contact is not possible and body language non-existent.

The 7N buyout of random numerical crap (should it really occur) -- keeping in mind that the cream is already gone -- by a limited number of rich investors will have a negative outcome for 99% of the rich investor's buyers, who will be left holding the bag.

In fact, the entire current Chinese demand for lesser domains (5L, 6N, and anything except .com, for example) may very well turn out to be a bad deal, due to collapse at any moment.

Classic.

I have invested somewhat in the Chinese mania, but I'm taking a close look before investing in anything else. In fact, I think that most reg-fee opportunities have already passed.

You heard it first here.
 
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It looks strange to me, but when I thought over it, I realized that it will definitely pay him off. Think of it this way; if very few people are holding the keys of world virtual properties in their archive and when they are needed, you must look for it at all cost.

But before the buyout, I wish you think over the renewal fees in case of the left overs.

7 is a precious number and Chinese will definitely buy them from him if the western world refuses to buy. Period.

Listen to your first gut reaction; first reactions are usually correct.

It's only when greed and overthinking occur that good common sense goes out the window.
 
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u think it will be easier to deal with .top registry :) and .top is going well in China, so if the market is there , you can stick on top.
 
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Is it possible some wealthy Chinese start a domain registrar mainly to register numeric .com names for nothing except ICANN fees? If that is possible then I believe 7N will be a buyout.
 
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Is it possible some wealthy Chinese start a domain registrar mainly to register numeric .com names for nothing except ICANN fees? If that is possible then I believe 7N will be a buyout.
Wealthy Chinese players have already warned us{ such as the owner of 4.cn} not to go to far out on a limb , i think the Chinese are more into Quality rather then Quantity , simple recognition that they have to pay millions just to keep them all regged every year seems not economical ,
 
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Is it possible some wealthy Chinese start a domain registrar mainly to register numeric .com names for nothing except ICANN fees? If that is possible then I believe 7N will be a buyout.

The problem with being a registrar is that the ICANN isn't the only fee with registering a DN - the other fee is to Verisign and if I'm not mistaken it's ~ $7+ per reg.
 
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With this kind of investment available,I think buying up all the 5n and 6n .info wouldnt be a bad play.At 3$ a pop reg fee
 
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Wealthy Chinese players have already warned us{ such as the owner of 4.cn} not to go to far out on a limb , i think the Chinese are more into Quality rather then Quantity , simple recognition that they have to pay millions just to keep them all regged every year seems not economical ,
hello

where he wrote about this ? could you clarify please .
THX.
 
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Wealthy Chinese players have already warned us{ such as the owner of 4.cn} not to go to far out on a limb , i think the Chinese are more into Quality rather then Quantity , simple recognition that they have to pay millions just to keep them all regged every year seems not economical ,

Sorry, but I don't think the Chinese are more into quality. They are registering everything, 7N, 8N, 9N... even 13N, 5L, 6L, .top, .cc, .biz, you name it. Where is that quality strategy? Sure it will come a moment when they'll have to face renewals, and THEN the strategy may point a bit more towards quality. But right now I just don't see it.

By the way and speaking of quality, I don't think 5N and 6N .info are a good idea... As a purely speculative move, who knows. But speculation always implies high risk.
 
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Why not have him buyout something will most likely have value in a year or two example single letter domains not just dot com but other extensions or even LLLL.org without vowels
 
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7n .com - 9n.com doesn't appear to be happening. The market is for 5n - 6n and less with all the basic (original) extensions, which is why 5n .info is starting to get hit. There are many good patterns with 5n .info available and a rapid buyout is imminent.
 
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