Undeveloped.com Experience

[JudgeMind]

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

 

[domvault]

@Undeveloped

How to bulk edit the description ?

thanks

 

[ajenipa]

Hi DNGear,

Yes you can if that's what you prefer. We don't force http to https explicitly yet on parking so the redirect feature can still add some value as we do force that at Undeveloped.com. Also, it seems to help build confidence between the escrow service (Undeveloped) and the buyer when doing a full redirect as people land on Undeveloped.com directly.

But the choice is now up to each seller to use the setting they prefer.

Kind regards,

Reza

Whenever I deselect the "redirect your buyer to internal.." GA will track the visit, but will only show this "/" without signifying the domain that has the visits. Pls is there any solution to this?

 

[anantj]

Whenever I deselect the "redirect your buyer to internal.." GA will track the visit, but will only show this "/" without signifying the domain that has the visits. Pls is there any solution to this?

Use the hostname as the secondary dimension

 

[DNGear]

@Undeveloped has been working on weekends too. Great.

 

[ajenipa]

Use the hostname as the secondary dimension

thanks so much, it works.

 

[tomcarl]

If you're implying setting up BIN+ Make Offer (Min Bid at BIN price) might be functionally the same as BIN only..Yes but, when a buyer sees the Make Offer option, he's lead to believe for a moment that there might be scope for negotiation, until he finds out that the minimum bid allowed is the same as BIN price and the Make Offer option was misleading and unnecessary.
The point is to uncomplicate things as much as possible for them and being straight forward at presenting options.


When I opt for BIN only, it's priced to be no-brainer for a serious buyer.

And I believe minimum bid's are construed to be the starting point of a negotiation and it's implied that the asking price might be more.So when one opts for Make Offer option setting Min. bid at BIN, there's a valid possibility the buyer might move on, who might have otherwise considered hitting BIN.

Hope this clarifies.

Agreed. I believe there's a psychological aspect at play when a buyer see's BIN with 'Make offer' vs BIN only with reasonable pricing.

Straight BIN can entice impulse buyers while BIN + 'Make Offer' gives more opportunity for second thoughts and rationalizing the purchase and/or valuation. To question whether to submit an offer or if the name is even worth it equals more thinking, more options = ward-off an impulse buy.

I always felt BIN + make offer on reasonably priced domains shows lack of confidence in its value/desperation to get it sold, which could be a turn off.

 

[DAN.COM]

Quick update:

If you set your BIN price at the same level as your starting offer price, the make offer option will be removed automatically from your for sale page.

 

[domains21]

Thanks @Undeveloped for the quick turnaround on implementing that suggestion.

 

[alcy]

Hi Golan,

Of course, I'd be more than happy to.

The lead importer feature isn't a lead generator tool. So it's only to be used for leads or transactions that have already formalized.

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So the moment you receive an offer of for example $500 via email, you can import that lead directly to your Undeveloped account and continue negotiating while using our negotiation system.

The buyer will receive an email explaining that you're an Undeveloped seller and that you wish to use our marketplace and negotiation platform. Once they confirm their intent, you can negotiate with them via your Undeveloped account.

Hope this helps,

Reza

so the leads we enter show up only after and if buyer replies? why not show em in our leads right away..so we can keep track..now we cant even recall what we already entered
ty

 

[alcy]

@Undeveloped any chance u can let sellers lower their offer of buyer does not reply to last offr? sedo and gd do it..and it sure ia better than losing sales..ty

 

[DAN.COM]

so the leads we enter show up only after and if buyer replies? why not show em in our leads right away..so we can keep track..now we cant even recall what we already entered
ty

Hi Alcy,

You can find unconfirmed, imported leads by clicking on the small icon next to the lead importer button.

@Undeveloped any chance u can let sellers lower their offer of buyer does not reply to last offr? sedo and gd do it..and it sure ia better than losing sales..ty

Offer now auto-expire, allowing you to send another offer. We've learned that lowering your price (especially more than once) before the buyer actually responds, counters or rejects your offer, is one of the biggest sales killers in negotiations.

The buyer initially gets a price from you, they start forming an idea about what the name is worth, if you then lower your price before the buyer even decides to go for it, they lose faith in the price point and become non-responsive often.

So I understand that other marketplaces offer this but it's seriously hurting your sales.

PS: if you still really want to be able to send a lower counter after you've countered, email support and they'll reject your counter offer so you can lower your price. But again, it's really not advised. As a platform, we would always advice to ask the buyer to make a decision first before you ever drop your price.

 

[DnFolk]

With my recent experience selling at @Undeveloped i must say that their agents/brokers/sales manager are by far the best. The way they handled the sale, the way they managed to keep in touch with the potential buyer/leads. absolutely brilliant. the low commission. fast easy payout only makes it better. Way to go. Keep it up guys.

 

[Manaen]

Thanks to @Undeveloped for creating the best domain selling experience ever.

I only recently found something that I think it's easy to implement and gives a better shopping experience. When you enter the Seller's Domain Shop, when filtering by extensions, all extensions appear. Would it not be possible to show only the extensions that said seller owns? I think this could make it easier for buyers to browse the shop

 

[alcy]

Thanks to @Undeveloped for creating the best domain selling experience ever.

I only recently found something that I think it's easy to implement and gives a better shopping experience. When you enter the Seller's Domain Shop, when filtering by extensions, all extensions appear. Would it not be possible to show only the extensions that said seller owns? I think this could make it easier for buyers to browse the shop

this is really good idea.. scanning through all the extgensions.. can be very long and inconvenient for buyer..

if you decide to implement it @Undeveloped perhaps you can do few more mins of coding and put a number next to each extensions.. for how many domains there are.. this shouldn't be too hard to do imo once you actually write code to check which extensions are owned by person

ty

 

[alcy]

@Undeveloped
so today is first day I am trying your sale landers..

I like your support and the way things are structured for sales etc..
got couple offers.. but no sale yet.

I have a couple of issues though... I tried to email them to your support by email but I believe the person there is not same as here.. so hopefully I get a brand new view on it here from you.. and hopefully fix.

first of all, I have some longer names.. say 15 chars+.. such as virtualreality+keyword.com and some more... these names get cut on the line.. and rest of name is shown below it..

so stuff like:

virtualrealityorga
nization.com

or other similar things.

there aren't really 50 ways to fix it... you essentially need to code it so that if char count hitsa certain number where it splits name, then reduce font of name a bit.. so it fits in one line.

this is like few mins of coding too I think.. and this does not loook professional to potential buyer where name is randomly cut and split like this.

yoru email guy was great in his support.. but I think we had misunderstanding on this.. cause he kept saying we do all we can to make things look nice.. and yet, things do not look nice.. so I am not sure if he was saying there is no fix.. and if he was then he was wrong.. cause I just told you what the fix is.. and that's fairly simple to put.

one last thing for now:

I tried my landers on my desktop/laptop and all works good.. however when I quickly tested it on my phone (good phone on public connection), I had a loading time of about 10 seconds.. til page loaded fully and offer could be made.. before that there was just spinning circle in middle and page was loading. I am not picky and I don't need pages loading instantly.. so 2-3 seconds is fine.. but 10 seconds is not fine.. and this will just make buyers close windows thinking there is an issue.. not all.. but some... and we want zero buyers closing windows for this reason.

that being said.. can someone here on mobile phone be kind enough to confirm if pages are loading this long?

I did add a background picture.. but I can't imagine that as the problem.

here is a test page of mine:

www.9u.io

thanks and I like your quick support and company and hope to be able to make us both some sales in future!

p.s. I was also happy to learn from yuoru email support that your paypal payout is mass payment.. so zero extra fee from paypal upon payment reception.. else that'd make your total fee to sell with u around 20% ... so as bad as godaddy

cheers.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

@Undeveloped

that being said.. can someone here on mobile phone be kind enough to confirm if pages are loading this long?

I did add a background picture.. but I can't imagine that as the problem.

here is a test page of mine:

www.9u.io

thanks and

cheers.

On a few year old iOS device (but iPad not iPhone) running 10.3 (i.e. not most current) from here in Canada your site loads in the Safari browser in between 1 and 2 s the first time I access it (faster returning).

 

[ajenipa]

@Undeveloped
so today is first day I am trying your sale landers..

I like your support and the way things are structured for sales etc..
got couple offers.. but no sale yet.

I have a couple of issues though... I tried to email them to your support by email but I believe the person there is not same as here.. so hopefully I get a brand new view on it here from you.. and hopefully fix.

first of all, I have some longer names.. say 15 chars+.. such as virtualreality+keyword.com and some more... these names get cut on the line.. and rest of name is shown below it..

so stuff like:

virtualrealityorga
nization.com

or other similar things.

there aren't really 50 ways to fix it... you essentially need to code it so that if char count hitsa certain number where it splits name, then reduce font of name a bit.. so it fits in one line.

this is like few mins of coding too I think.. and this does not loook professional to potential buyer where name is randomly cut and split like this.

yoru email guy was great in his support.. but I think we had misunderstanding on this.. cause he kept saying we do all we can to make things look nice.. and yet, things do not look nice.. so I am not sure if he was saying there is no fix.. and if he was then he was wrong.. cause I just told you what the fix is.. and that's fairly simple to put.

one last thing for now:

I tried my landers on my desktop/laptop and all works good.. however when I quickly tested it on my phone (good phone on public connection), I had a loading time of about 10 seconds.. til page loaded fully and offer could be made.. before that there was just spinning circle in middle and page was loading. I am not picky and I don't need pages loading instantly.. so 2-3 seconds is fine.. but 10 seconds is not fine.. and this will just make buyers close windows thinking there is an issue.. not all.. but some... and we want zero buyers closing windows for this reason.

that being said.. can someone here on mobile phone be kind enough to confirm if pages are loading this long?

I did add a background picture.. but I can't imagine that as the problem.

here is a test page of mine:

www.9u.io

thanks and I like your quick support and company and hope to be able to make us both some sales in future!

p.s. I was also happy to learn from yuoru email support that your paypal payout is mass payment.. so zero extra fee from paypal upon payment reception.. else that'd make your total fee to sell with u around 20% ... so as bad as godaddy

cheers.

Less than 3sec load time here

 

[alcy]

thanks guys... thats odd cause all my internet pages load real fast.. despite my testing it at mcdonald on public connection.. I think it said like 2mb speed in an internet speed test I once ran.

I know its not a lot.. but still.. all my pages load super fast.. whereas my undeveloped lander was just hanging in there iwth circle spinning for like 10 seconds.

weird.

but I think its safe to say most people won't experience this problem. unless they are at mcdonalds lol

 

[Bob Hawkes]

So @alcy if you want to sell your domain names at McDonalds, maybe you can get them to add them as options to the Self Serve ordering kiosk? Do you want a domain name with your muffin and burger?

 

[joro001]

@Undeveloped
so today is first day I am trying your sale landers..

I like your support and the way things are structured for sales etc..
got couple offers.. but no sale yet.

I have a couple of issues though... I tried to email them to your support by email but I believe the person there is not same as here.. so hopefully I get a brand new view on it here from you.. and hopefully fix.

first of all, I have some longer names.. say 15 chars+.. such as virtualreality+keyword.com and some more... these names get cut on the line.. and rest of name is shown below it..

so stuff like:

virtualrealityorga
nization.com

or other similar things.

there aren't really 50 ways to fix it... you essentially need to code it so that if char count hitsa certain number where it splits name, then reduce font of name a bit.. so it fits in one line.

this is like few mins of coding too I think.. and this does not loook professional to potential buyer where name is randomly cut and split like this.

yoru email guy was great in his support.. but I think we had misunderstanding on this.. cause he kept saying we do all we can to make things look nice.. and yet, things do not look nice.. so I am not sure if he was saying there is no fix.. and if he was then he was wrong.. cause I just told you what the fix is.. and that's fairly simple to put.

one last thing for now:

I tried my landers on my desktop/laptop and all works good.. however when I quickly tested it on my phone (good phone on public connection), I had a loading time of about 10 seconds.. til page loaded fully and offer could be made.. before that there was just spinning circle in middle and page was loading. I am not picky and I don't need pages loading instantly.. so 2-3 seconds is fine.. but 10 seconds is not fine.. and this will just make buyers close windows thinking there is an issue.. not all.. but some... and we want zero buyers closing windows for this reason.

that being said.. can someone here on mobile phone be kind enough to confirm if pages are loading this long?

I did add a background picture.. but I can't imagine that as the problem.

here is a test page of mine:

www.9u.io

thanks and I like your quick support and company and hope to be able to make us both some sales in future!

p.s. I was also happy to learn from yuoru email support that your paypal payout is mass payment.. so zero extra fee from paypal upon payment reception.. else that'd make your total fee to sell with u around 20% ... so as bad as godaddy

cheers.

According to gtmetrix it loads in over 6 seconds (desktop not mobile though):
https://gtmetrix.com/reports/www.9u.io/QVUfRzDa

I have been emailing undeveloped about page loading times and they said pingdom shows it loading in around 1 second or so whereas my experience is with ssl landing pages it takes around 5-6 seconds for the page to load completely on average which is not good. When I test my page manually it does take a while for the pages to fully load for me as well it's not just gtmetrix.
As a comparison gtmetrix says efty takes around 2-3 seconds to load fully, afternic landers similar so i believe they are accurate overall.

I know undeveloped will likely say gtmetrix is wrong but I don't think they are here, the pages could do with loading mush faster overall in particular ssl landing pages.