Undeveloped.com Experience

[JudgeMind]

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

 

[DAN.COM]

Not sure I ever added VAT registration details to Undeveloped. The transaction was indeed between two EU citizens (me UK - buyer France), perhaps the buyer had his VAT details in his Undeveloped account, don't know... Anyway no biggie, just thought I'd post here for the clarity and transparency sake since @Undeveloped stated there are no additional fees apart from the 15% commission . Now I have no idea if citizens outside the EU might be charged this but since Undeveloped is part of Epik, the US citizens might get charged as well...just saying

Hi Loredan,

I don't see VAT as additional charges since it's not going to us but the tax agency. We only charge VAT on top of our commission if both the seller as Undeveloped have to by law. And that happens only in some specific cases for European sellers.

Our system is designed to charge the correct VAT based on the information you supply us and the information that we have from the buyer.

Here are some of the VAT rule logics:

1: If you're a non-business seller from EU we have to charge VAT
2: If you're a business seller from EU and supply a valid VAT number we don't charge VAT
3: If you're a non-business or business seller outside of EU you never pay VAT

Again, only if we by law have to collect VAT as in example #1 we do.

Thanks for helping me clarify this,

Reza

 

[Michael M]

I am pretty happy with Undeveloped so far. IMO - The landing pages are some of the best out there...

Moved some domains over to them a month ago, and just got my first sale there last night. It went VERY smoothly. I got the sold email last night, transferred the domain, and was paid this morning.

 

[Haykay2005]

I am pretty happy with Undeveloped so far. IMO - The landing pages are some of the best out there...

Moved some domains over to them a month ago, and just got my first sale there last night. It went VERY smoothly. I got the sold email last night, transferred the domain, and was paid this morning.

That's very fast. Nice one

 

[Michael M]

@Undeveloped - A request: On a sold domain's landing page - show the domains of the seller instead of market domains. Not a huge deal, but would be nice.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I realize last post here was a long time ago. I have looked through their site and I am considering setting up an account and trying a few of my domain names with them.

Before I do that I would be interested to see the experience that some others have had with their service, especially recently. I like a lot the visual look of their site.

If I understand it correctly, it seems they just take a flat 15%, with no cost if no sale is made. This seems pretty reasonable to me.

I did a few searches on some specialized words that are of interest to me, and it seems that they have in the areas I checked at least a good selection of domain names listed.

I would really welcome input from someone who has sold domains through them re how smoothly it all worked.

Thanks in advance.

Bob

 

[zeff]

I realize last post here was a long time ago. I have looked through their site and I am considering setting up an account and trying a few of my domain names with them.

Before I do that I would be interested to see the experience that some others have had with their service, especially recently. I like a lot the visual look of their site.

If I understand it correctly, it seems they just take a flat 15%, with no cost if no sale is made. This seems pretty reasonable to me.

I did a few searches on some specialized words that are of interest to me, and it seems that they have in the areas I checked at least a good selection of domain names listed.

I would really welcome input from someone who has sold domains through them re how smoothly it all worked.

Thanks in advance.

Bob

Hi Bob,

I did sell a couple of domains through undeveloped and i have no complain.
Things i like:
First it's easy to add domains in your portfolio, to set up a buy now price or a starting offer price.
Secondly, they have a chat page for each domain that allows sellers and buyers to discuss about the price. It is also used by undeveloped to inform of the transaction process when the deal is done.
Lastly i also like the fact that the parking page of a domain is not full of adverts.
To improve:
The last time i used undeveloped for a transaction i found quite difficult to use their chat page with a mobile phone as i think it was not fully responsible but i may be fixed now.

Finally for the transaction and the domain transfer, everything went well.

 

[blumutt]

Hi everyone,

I'm new here, and I really have enjoyed this convo. I have been searching for a good (GREAT) place to sell my domains, and I think I'm getting closer and closer to the end of my search as I read this thread.
I have all of my domains parked at NameSilo(the best registrar I have ever dealt with). I have a number of them for sale at Sedo, but not going anywhere. I don't have any complaints about Sedo. They respond very quickly at support.
I truly hope Undeveloped is as good (GREAT) as you all say it is. One particular thing that sets Undeveloped apart from the others,IMHO, is that Reza has answered every question here, plus. That says a lot about the person at the helm.
Wish me luck.

 

[blumutt]

Hi again,

As I posted before, my domains are parked with NameSilo. My question is: am I better off to just try to sell my domains at Undeveloped, or park and sell at Undeveloped.
I am a newbie at domaining, so any input from you would be appreciated.

 

[zeff]

Hi Blumutt,

I don't think that undeveloped has a parking service. It is one of the points i like using undeveloped, there is no ads on the domains pages i sell with them.
It is just my point of view but i prefer that my domains appear on a nice selling page than on a parking page full of adverts. I may be wrong but it seems to me that it is more attracful for a buyer.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Hi Blumutt and Zeff,

I agree with the view expressed by zeff, although full disclosure I have never used monetized parking but I can't imagine these days you make much money from it (and others posting on Namepros seem to say same).

I think the most important (in this order) is that someone who enters your domain name:
(1) Arrives on a page that clearly indicates that the domain name is for sale (and either the BIN price, where to bid, or an indication of the price expected). It must include information or links so a potential buyer can take the next step.
(2) For certain domain names, that page should provide additional information that will enhance the understanding and valuation of the domain name in the eyes of the potential buyer.
(3) The landing page be attractive and look professional. While I think some Adsense or similar advertisements are tolerable, the page should clearly be primarily about the domain name.

I have not yet used Undeveloped, but I think I will set up an account with them and try some domain names for sale there and see how it works. It seems to me that their service covers nicely the three points I list, and also provides to the buyer the idea that a third party will be involved in the transaction.

Bob

 

[zeff]

I agree !
If you wanna see how a selling page appears, one of my domains listed for sale is urbanlifi.com. If you scroll down on this page, you will see the monthly trafic, a note i wrote about this domain, and a list of other domains i sell.

 

[blumutt]

Thanks for the replies and info Bob and Zeff.
I still haven't opened an account with Undeveloped, as I'm still considering all my options. As I said before, I am new to this, and I don't know all the ins and outs of this business, yet. I'm sure it's a huge learning curve that has to be taken one step at a time.
Is it advisable to have domains for sale on several sites? Or better to stick to one and see where it leads?
I had some domains for sale at NameSilo and Sedo. I really like dealing with both of them from a support angle. If your domains are not selling, it's either that the pricing is too high, the names aren't good, or they aren't getting the exposure needed to attract potential buyers.
Again, your input will be greatly appreciated.

Mutt

 

[blumutt]

Hey Zeff
I just checked out your urbanlifi.com, and the page looks good. Nice description too.

 

[blumutt]

Hey guys,
Newbie here again. I finally took the final step and put up a few of my domains on Undeveloped.

 

[DAN.COM]

Welcome on board Mutt

Hey guys,
Newbie here again. I finally took the final step and put up a few of my domains on Undeveloped.

 

[Michael M]

As pleased as I am with the style of landers and their general customer support - I am not sure about the sales process yet. I sold a domain through their lander on 8/1. Was pleased to be paid one day after transfer to their GD account... But now about a month later I am getting an email from Undeveloped requesting an authorization code??

The story so far goes...

On 8/1 I transferred the domain to Undeveloped's GD account. As requested I did not opt to choose the change registrant's info.

On 8/21 I received an email to authorize a contact change on the domain. I approved assuming it would be the new owner doing this.

On 8/24 I receive an email from transferverify @ GD to manually confirm the transfer. I advised them I had sold the domain a month prior and transferred it then. They replied that the email was a fraud protection and the domain would be transferred in 5 days since I sold it.

On 8/30 I receive an email from Undeveloped asking for an authorization code. I reply the domain is not in my account, let them know there is no authorization code in my email, and let them know about the correspondence with Godaddy's transfer verify.

So in the meantime I check the whois for the domain in question and it is now at Enom under privacy with update date of 8/30. This worries me a little. I had checked this domain a few days ago and it appeared to be in the possession of the buyer.

I still haven't gotten the story from Undeveloped on what is going on - but the privacy on the domain mixed with Undeveloped asking me for an auth code, and it being 1 day past the 5 day cancel period concerns me.

If this domain has been stolen from the rightful owner then I feel obligated to try my best to help them recover it - if I can. On the other side of the coin it could be the buyer trying to scam Undeveloped - but that still is causing them and me unneeded stress.

Just felt like venting and sharing this experience. I will update as the situation progresses. Hopefully it is just a misunderstanding somewhere...

 

[DAN.COM]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for sharing your concern. I have to look into this specific transaction with the escrow agent in charge, however I can guarantee you that you've followed our escrow procedure as requested which means that you're insured by us for any issues that might arise after you're paid out. So don't worry you're all set.

Domain transfers from and to Godaddy are the most frustrating ones due to their aggressive lock-ins. That's why our escrow procedure is different with them than with other registrars.

If you have shared your concerns also via the official support channels or escrow channel our guys will guide you through it so again you don't have to worry. Since we've started in 2014 we haven't had one failed transaction and we'd like to keep it that way .

Kind regards,
Reza

As pleased as I am with the style of landers and their general customer support - I am not sure about the sales process yet. I sold a domain through their lander on 8/1. Was pleased to be paid one day after transfer to their GD account... But now about a month later I am getting an email from Undeveloped requesting an authorization code??

The story so far goes...

On 8/1 I transferred the domain to Undeveloped's GD account. As requested I did not opt to choose the change registrant's info.

On 8/21 I received an email to authorize a contact change on the domain. I approved assuming it would be the new owner doing this.

On 8/24 I receive an email from transferverify @ GD to manually confirm the transfer. I advised them I had sold the domain a month prior and transferred it then. They replied that the email was a fraud protection and the domain would be transferred in 5 days since I sold it.

On 8/30 I receive an email from Undeveloped asking for an authorization code. I reply the domain is not in my account, let them know there is no authorization code in my email, and let them know about the correspondence with Godaddy's transfer verify.

So in the meantime I check the whois for the domain in question and it is now at Enom under privacy with update date of 8/30. This worries me a little. I had checked this domain a few days ago and it appeared to be in the possession of the buyer.

I still haven't gotten the story from Undeveloped on what is going on - but the privacy on the domain mixed with Undeveloped asking me for an auth code, and it being 1 day past the 5 day cancel period concerns me.

If this domain has been stolen from the rightful owner then I feel obligated to try my best to help them recover it - if I can. On the other side of the coin it could be the buyer trying to scam Undeveloped - but that still is causing them and me unneeded stress.

Just felt like venting and sharing this experience. I will update as the situation progresses. Hopefully it is just a misunderstanding somewhere...

,

 

[Michael M]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for sharing your concern. I have to look into this specific transaction with the escrow agent in charge, however I can guarantee you that you've followed our escrow procedure as requested which means that you're insured by us for any issues that might arise after you're paid out. So don't worry you're all set.

Domain transfers from and to Godaddy are the most frustrating ones due to their aggressive lock-ins. That's why our escrow procedure is different with them than with other registrars.

If you have shared your concerns also via the official support channels or escrow channel our guys will guide you through it so again you don't have to worry. Since we've started in 2014 we haven't had one failed transaction and we'd like to keep it that way .

Kind regards,
Reza


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Reza,
Thanks for the reply and I also received one from Simon this morning. Seems this was just a miscommunication from buyer to escrow. Simon confirmed the domain was received by the buyer.

And to be clear I was not nearly as concerned for the guarantee in my end of the transaction (money) - as I was making sure that the customer received the domain - to ensure Undeveloped's good name and my own.

When I sell something I like to make sure the process is completed to all parties' satisfaction - including the marketplace.

Thanks,
Mike.

 

[Michael M]

@Undeveloped

A couple of recommendations:

#1: When I try to change a price on a domain on the profile screen by clicking the icon beside the price - it does not save when I click the check mark. I have to hit the [Enter] key. (Chrome) Has been this way quite some time.

#2: Change the default sort on the public profile to Price (High->Low) or allow seller to choose default sort. Right now I can not quite figure out why it orders them the way it does. Order=relevance... Relevance to what??

#3: Much more detailed analytics, please!

Thanks,
Mike

 

[CJ6]

I would also like to see more information on the hits.

Also, does the number of hits filter out robots?