marketplace Strange Consecutive Sales

[kor]

Lately, I've been noticing a series of domain names appearing in sales reports that make no sense whatsoever, as shown in the screenshot below. These are being sold at a specific price range to avoid triggering fraud detection systems.

Are aftermarket platforms unaware of this issue? Or are they simply focused on the commission they'll receive and ignoring what's really happening?

 

[vrwrys]

Lately, I've been noticing a series of domain names appearing in sales reports that make no sense whatsoever, as shown in the screenshot below. These are being sold at a specific price range to avoid triggering fraud detection systems.

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Are aftermarket platforms unaware of this issue? Or are they simply focused on the commission they'll receive and ignoring what's really happening?

What do you think is going on because I've noticed the same thing but wasn't as savvy as you to bring up the issue?I know you mentioned fraud. Elaborate.I've also noticed on some reporting sites ,that the same domains are being reported sold on different days, on different venues,with different sale prices.

 

[biggie]

I've also noticed on some reporting sites ,that the same domains are being reported sold on different days, on different venues,with different sale prices.

Hi

so…
is somebody pumping up the volume or doing laundry?

imo…

 

[kor]

laundry

That's my guess.

I've frequently encountered this pattern while tracking sales over the years. What's surprising is that criminals are still able to apply the exact same tactic across all platforms. It's very easy to detect and prevent this, especially in the AI era.

 

[JackalopeWorks]

Something's amiss. I began by picking three just to see what the WHOIS is like. I noticed they shared the same birthday," but were born on different years (July 26, 20XX).

I thought that was odd and went down a rabbithole (jackalope-hole?) and looked through 26 of the top 100 (by $$$) sold on Dynadot on September 2, 2026. I looked at 30 altogether. With the exception of megaworldluxury.com* (July 27, 2017), they were all also born on July 26 (Birth years are listed below). The last updated is 7/26 or 7/27 on all of them.

I looked at DNS records on a few and they were all pointed at Alibaba. Given the number of "irregularities" around some of their accounting practices, I wouldn't be surprised if they're cooking the books. They may also be going to or coming from the laundromat or carwash.

*I was looking at the whois.com version of WHOIS. It may very well be another 7/26 birthday if we account for timezone differences (I'm in Tornado Alley, USA).

megaworldluxury.com 2017
jinruixifalv.com 2024 ($301)
shunquantech.com 2022 ($430)
hieureka.com 2015 ($630)
ihydropower.com 2012 ($645)

bluetownbds.com 2021
qiaoxinholdings.com 2018
lancky.com 2018
gzzszylexus.com 2016
9kdoctor.com 2018

gtsdlspt.com 2022
xunshuwangluo.com 2022
immisos.com 2023
eadisonsaas.com 2021
baichatai.com 2021

shanghairoute.com 2016
taitouzhongmiao.com 2017
gzqcjj.com 2012
fy1995.com 2006
zihuix.com 2019

qianzhiqdvip.com 2021
26787777.com 2017
fanpushenghuo.com 2021
lct613.com 2022
ty-ke.com 2016

getihunianbao.com 2023
anmao1919.com 2020
fuyaolive.com 2019
learning8.com 2019
hro2o.com 2017

 

[pb]

It's not surprising that they were all registered on 26 July in different years, if they were sold on the expiry auction - all domains registered on 26 July will have the same expiry cycle, be auctioned on the same day or drop on the same day...

 

[vrwrys]

That's my guess.

I've frequently encountered this pattern while tracking sales over the years. What's surprising is that criminals are still able to apply the exact same tactic across all platforms. It's very easy to detect and prevent this, especially in the AI era.

Educate me.You guys are talking over my head and patting each other on the back.

 

[sharjeep]

That's my guess.

I've frequently encountered this pattern while tracking sales over the years. What's surprising is that criminals are still able to apply the exact same tactic across all platforms. It's very easy to detect and prevent this, especially in the AI era.

Yes, easy to detect and prevent...but prevent what?

I fully agree that some shenanigans are happening at the laundramat, but as far as the platforms are concerned, those are legitimate and legal transactions...at least until some govt entity decides to subpoena the platform for buyer/seller records.

 

[JackalopeWorks]

It's not surprising that they were all registered on 26 July in different years, if they were sold on the expiry auction - all domains registered on 26 July will have the same expiry cycle, be auctioned on the same day or drop on the same day...

The last updated on all of the WHOISs is July 26 or 27, 2026. Wouldn't they have "last updated" dates of August 25(ish), 2026 or later last updated dates if they went to auction (to account for the 30 day grace period) if they were going to new owners?

 

[pb]

The last updated on all of the WHOISs is July 26 or 27, 2026. Wouldn't they have "last updated" dates of August 25(ish), 2026 or later last updated dates if they went to auction (to account for the 30 day grace period) if they were going to new owners?

Maybe they weren't paid for (yet?). Namebio doesn't verify that.

 

[JackalopeWorks]

Educate me.You guys are talking over my head and patting each other on the back.

If it's what I think it is, it's something called round tripping (Google "finance round tripping").

To put it in context, imagine a scenario where a kingpin wants to make his $1M of dirty drug money look legitimate and get it into legitimate banks. In Act I of this crime drama, you'll have bad guy A1 buy a domain for $10 >> who will sell it to bad guy B1 for $100 >> who will then sell it to bad guy C1 for $1000.

In Act II: Bad guy B1 will then go buy ten domains for $10 >> who will sell each of those ten domains to bad guy C1 and nine of his buddies (convientently named C2, C3, C4... C10) for $100 each >> C1–10 will then sell those domains to bad guys D1–10 for $1000.

If the commission fee is 10%, the kingpin will get $890K of clean ("laundered") money back of the $1M of dirty money he started with.

 

[DomainSeeds]

Is it laundry process?
(1) Don't proceed domain renewal
(2) Once the domain listed in the expired domain auction, bid it to win.
(3) Proceed domain renewal
(4) Auction canceled due to the domain had been redeemed.
(5) Laundry(?) done?

Last year, I informed this issue to Dynadot guy.

 

[nicenic]

Those dates are definitely odd. I'd be curious to see where the names end up after the auctions though.