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I got a strange email this afternoon, that looked too good to be true (The red flags went up after I received his reply)

The first email...
PHP:
Hello, 
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 

Your domain name has been found online. We are very interested in it. Please let us know your price. 

This is not our main business but we make money on buying/seling domains. 

This is a profitable business. Looking forward to do business with you. 

Regards, 
Michael E Myers 
Vice President 
OB Securities LLC 

======================================================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing,
 copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, 
please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ========================================================

Here is his reply...
PHP:
Hi David! 

Can you accept 12,000 USD? 

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? 

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? 

I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. 

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. 

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/486935.htm 

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. 

I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. 

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? 

Hope we can come to an agreement fast. 

Looking forward to your reply.

Scary stuff out there for people who take the bait >:(
 
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These guys are just to funny.

I have had some fun with them corresponding to their e-mail.

Read upside down, their first e-mail to me is at the bottom and mine is at the top:

PHP:
Yes as I said,

If you want me to BUY YOUR DOMAIN NAME, then you have to get it appraised at Scam-Appraisal-Biiiaaacchhh.com It only cost $1.500.

They have gotten very good reviews, just read here:
Tommy from Michigan
"I used Scam-Appraisal-Biiiaaacchhh.com and sold my domain name for 1 zillion USD!"

Ki Ssmya Ss.
"I only use Scam-Appraisal-Biiiaaacchhh.com they are very professional!!!"

Once you have done that e-mail me their certificate then I will buy YOUR DOMAIN NAME for $1.400. Okey?

Just read this about the other appraisal site:
Suckers-R-Us.com
"The other domain name appraisal sites Sucks!!!!"


So go visit Scam-Appraisal-Biiiaaacchhh.com and pay them $1.500 then e-mail me back!

Regards,

Suc Kmyd Ick

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Wargacki [mailto:[email protected]]
Sendt: 27. juni 2009 09:14
Til: ******
Emne: ******

We both need independent valuation first.

Sellers always provide buyers with valuations. This is  a common practice.

I don't trust $14 services like that GoDaddy's valuation service. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.

I researched several companies and here are the results:

I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation Just read this blog http://accuratedomains.blogspot.com/
So I'm not going to accept this fraudulent service.

I also considered www.Afternic.com, but now it's clear their service is not reliable enough.
Just read this:
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

Another complaint
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630


I  was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com. It costs - $200/hour.

Many experienced sellers suggested me www.DomainExplorer.org as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. I've read only positive comments about them.

----- Original Message -----
From: ******
To: "'Wargacki'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:09 AM
Subject: ******


Hi again Mr. Alex,

Yes we agree, so just visit the appraisal site:
Scam-Appraisal-Biiiaaacchhh.com

And pay for an appraisal, it only cost $1.500 special price for you, then we can go to the next step, of course that is if you still want to sell your domain name.

Or even better, just send the payment to my Moneybookers account, and I will get it appraised then I will buy YOUR domain name. Okey?

After we have done this business, maybe we can do some of those Nigerian-email-scam things, is that okey with you? Just follow the same step and make a payment to my Moneybookers account.


Regards,


Suc Kmyd Ick


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Wargacki [mailto:[email protected]]
Sendt: 26. juni 2009 22:42
Til:******
Emne: ******

It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://discussnames.007sites.com/Archive/702481.htm

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.

----- Original Message -----
From: ******
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:59 PM
Subject: SV: ******

Hi Mr. Alex,

We are in marketing business and has domain name sales as a minor
side-business.

We are interested in buying you domain name "theonlinebrokerage.com".

Is $9.000 good enough?

But as I said we are a serious business, so our board has to accept this
deal. So you have to get your domain-name appraised first.

We have been in this business a long time now, so we have heard rumors about
some of the appraisal sites around there.

So we donโ€™t acknowledge the appraisal from these companies:
We know GoDaddy does appraisal, but they have amateur people doing it,
without knowledge for the real value.

And Sedo is just automatic, they donโ€™t even look at the domain-name.

And other domain registrar sites, what they know about is registering
domain-name, NOT how to apprais one.

We have heard a lot of good things about Scam-Appraisal-Biiiaaacchhh.com,
they have low fees and does the best appraisal. It only cost $1.500.

If you want to sell your domain-name, please contact us!

Regards,

Suc Kmyd Ick

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sendt: 26. juni 2009 19:42
Til: ******
Emne: ******

Hello,

Are you still interested in sale of your domain? What  is your price?

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Alex Wargacki

CEO

ONB Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
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i got scammed by these bastards and their site Domain Explorer a couple days ago, offering 15,000 euros for 4 names - i'm a newbie to domain name trading and so was reeled in like a fish - i should've known better as i'm usually the suspicious type but there you go... i've since initiated a chargeback on my card purchase to recover my funds and we will be chasing these thieves until they are exposed and brought to account.
 
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i got scammed by these bastards and their site Domain Explorer a couple days ago, offering 15,000 euros for 4 names - i'm a newbie to domain name trading and so was reeled in like a fish - i should've known better as i'm usually the suspicious type but there you go... i've since initiated a chargeback on my card purchase to recover my funds and we will be chasing these thieves until they are exposed and brought to account.

Don't worry about it. We all make mistakes. This will be just a lesson to help make better choices as you progress within the domain game.

Best of luck with getting your funds back. :tu:
 
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yeh, talk about learning the hard way... i've also filed a complaint with the FBI - hopefully they can 'smoke them out' ... i didn't lose a lot but still, fraud is fraud...
 
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yeh, talk about learning the hard way... i've also filed a complaint with the FBI - hopefully they can 'smoke them out' ... i didn't lose a lot but still, fraud is fraud...

I also fell victim to that scam. I already requested a refund at plimus.com, explaining that I have been scammed. Are there any more actions you would advise me to take?
 
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I also fell victim to that scam. I already requested a refund at plimus.com, explaining that I have been scammed. Are there any more actions you would advise me to take?

Contact your bank/credit card company to initiate a chargeback and to investigate the transaction. I contacted mine and they have blocked my card and will be issuing me with a new one while they go after these crooks. It won't take them long to work out that the online brokerage/domain explorer is a fraudulent operation.

Also file a IC3 complaint form with the FBI - you can do that on this site;

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home
 
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It may also pay to send a copy of your complaint direct to the FBI's Phoenix branch to speed things up, cos these scammers seem to be hiding behind proxy servers located there.

You can find their contact details here;

Phoenix Division Headquarters City
 
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I filed a complaint at IC3.

Though I doubt there is much they can do about it. You would have to prove that their "appraisal" is a fraud. Otherwise, you ordered a service and they delivered, which is not illegal in itself. Only if you can prove their service to be worthless, you might have a shot.

I think the best approach is to initiate a chargeback at the bank and sit out their demands. I doubt they will make much effort to get the money, when they can just scam another poor soul.
 
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Now his sister gave birth. He celebrated!

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1st email:
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Hello,

Are you still interested in sale of your domain? What is your price?

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Alex Wargacki

CEO

ONB Real Estate LLC


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2nd email:
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My sister gave birth to a child. Apologies for delay with response. We celebrated!

Can you accept 10,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.
 
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Funny guy:

Very funny. I wanted to earn money on domain reselling and asked about proper letter in forums. People sent me this common email. It's clear that I'm not alone who is trying to make money on domain reselling. This is new risk free business on the domain aftermarket. You contact sellers and ask them to provide you with appraisals. Then you select the best names based on appraisal results and resell them. If you can promote domains non standard way or you have a good databsae of domain buyers it will bring you a good income. As a seller you'll get the appraised value - 15% (my commission). This is a win-win situation.

Unfortunately, some people think that we promote appraisal services. This is not true. I did not send you affiliate links or insisted on a particular appraisal service. All I need is a real manual appraisal not a bogus automated service. Sellers must provide us with appraisals so we can select the best names. I don't see something illegal in what we are doing since we spend our own money and time on promotion. If you try to sell domains without good potential you'll waste time and money. Moreover, I always order second appraisal myself to be sure in good potential of domain name.

I hope everything is clear now and we'll do business
 
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That's the exact email that Wargacki scammer sent me when I told him I was reporting him to my bank and authorities. I'm gonna give these domain explorer people a call soon - have just asked them thru the Plimus site to clarify whether the (509) is a country code (which in their case would be Haiti) or an area/state code (which looks like Washington if they're in the US) so will be interesting to read their reply if they reply at all.

Forster, it's obvious we should join forces (and anybody else here who got suckered by these rats) and resources - the more victims that the FBI and banks have to cross reference the quicker they'll nail these guys and force them to come clean and cough up.

PM me with your email and we can keep in touch regarding new and updated communication with the onlinebrokerage/domainexplorer scammers.

I see they're still operating from easynamesale.com - exact same site, just different header.

Are you keeping all the emails between you and these rats? The more evidence the better - I have kept everything and have no intention of letting this go. I'm pissed! I'm not letting these wankers get away.

Which scammer alias are they using thru the Pllimus site when communicating with you, Forster? Melvin Ebenstein?

---------- Post added at 11:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 AM ----------

@Forster - have you received anything like this yet from domainexplorer thru the Plimus.com?

"We don't operate DOB: Hot Tips for Online Investors. You may responsible for false compalints. We are not scammers. However we will investigate the situation because it can make damage to our reputation. However, you can find such fake postings about almost each and every company Examples: Sedo - Buy and Sell Domain Names and Websites SEDO SCAM: Euros Not Equal To Us Dollars Lawsuit alleges dealings in stolen domain name Is Afternic auctioning off STOLEN and HIJACKED domains? We have your order on file. You have agreed with our user agreement in which we stated that we did not provide refunds for this service. We have already paid independent experts for appraisal of your name and we cannot cancel this transaction. Our company does not earn money on appraisals. We pay all the money to experts and provide this service to satisfy demands of our domain sellers.

We are for seven years in this business and have many happy customers. Here is the one of letters our customers send us regularly: =================================== "----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Cochran Subject: Re: appraisal All I can say is wow. You guys are a hard working bunch. I very much appriciate the time and effort you and your team put in. Keep up the great work. Me and my partner phillip plan to use your service quite a bit in the coming years. Thanks again, Phillip" "----- ----- ===================================

The customers appreciate our fast service and customer support. Anyway, if you are not satisfied with our service, we can offer you listing of your appraised domains in the premium showcase for free. We will also provide you with free escrow. We list all domains until they are sold.We will help you to sell your domains and you'll see that we are a legitimate company with reliable business model. Satisfaction of our customers is very important for us.

Sincerely, Melvin Ebenstein Customer Support"
 
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i've sent wargacki an email asking for his business phone number - wonder if he'll give it.

Assuming these rats are located in the UK and/or the US (which seems to be the case) then it won't take much to pinpoint them.
 
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Here's another one!

Glad you guys are here because I probably would have fallen for it if I hadn't read this forum. I tried to have some fun with this idiot, but apparently he's too dumb to take a hint and quit.....here are the emails: (my name blocked out for privacy). Can you believe he actually responded to me after the first email? Is there even a real person on the other end reading replies? I have arranged the emails so that you can read from the top down. (First email at the top)
========================================================================

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <***********.ca>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:38 PM
>>>> Subject: ***********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names
>>>>> and
>>>>> web sites too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to do business with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Everett
>>>>>
>>>>> President
>>>>>
>>>>> OBN Real Estate LLC
>>>>> ========================================================
>>>>> NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
>>>>> information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
>>>>> viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
>>>>> unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>>>>> this
>>>>> message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the
>>>>> message
>>>>> and deleting it from your computer.
>>>>> =================================================
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date:
>>>> 07/08/09
>>>> 05:53:00
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

MY REPLY:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "J S******" <***********.ca>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: ***********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow! Thanks for your interest, Robert.....
>>>> You may purchase the domain for $12,000 USD.
>>>> Let me know if you're interested and how we would manage to move
>>>> forward
>>>> with the transaction, ok?
>>>>
>>>> JS

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09
05:55:00

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HIS REPLY TO ME:


>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Everett" <[email protected]>
>> To: "J S*****" <*********.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: *********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>>
>>
>>> My sister gave birth to a child. So I could not respond fast. We
>>> celebrated.
>>>
>>> Can you accept 11 000 USD?
>>>
>>> Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?
>>>
>>> Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
>>>
>>> Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
>>> appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's
>>> very
>>> important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a
>>> valuation
>>> company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
>>> independent sources I and my partners trust.
>>>
>>> To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
>>> companies.
>>>
>>> Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
>>> http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7042591.htm
>>>
>>> If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking
>>> price
>>> accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
>>> discount.
>>>
>>> After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
>>> obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.
>>>
>>> What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
>>> transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
>>>
>>> Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your reply.

==================================================================
MY REPLY:

----- Original Message -----
> From: "J S*******" <***********.ca>
> To: "Everett" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: *********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>
>
>> Congratulations, your sister had YOUR baby. How nice for you.
>> So here is what I propose Robert, ok?
>> Certainly I can accept $11,000 U.S.D. for the domain. You must really
>> want this domain. You don't ask for much and you seem ready to go. Can
>> I make just one request before we decide to proceed? It's a simple request,
>> but very meaningful to me.
>>
>> I would request that you kindly pick your broken scam up off the internet
>> floor. Any polite boy knows that when he makes a mess, he should pick it
>> up, otherwise others who cross your path will see the mess you've made.
>> Ooops, too late?
>> No Robert, Tom, Dick, Harry or whoever you are - I won't be having the
>> domain valuated. That would make you money dick head, not me! It might
>> interest you to know that your scam is not much of a trick anymore
>> Einstein. As I said, it's broken now. You were too careless and now
>> everybody knows all about it. Pick it up Robert, Pick it up and put it
>> where it goes now ok? In the trash.
>>
>> Goodnight Robert.
>>
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YES, HE ACTUALLY REPLIED TO THAT:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Everett" <[email protected]>
To: "J S*****" <***********.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: ***********.com (sent 07/08/09)


> Thank you for congratulations!
>
> It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to
> buyers/resellers.
> Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no
> intention
> of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.
>
> Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
> manual valuation is a "must" too.
>
> I read the following information about appraisals at:
> http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7042591.htm
>
> Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.
>
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MY FINAL REPLY TO HIM - SO FAR NO FURTHER RESPONSE BACK:


Please feel free to have the domain valuated and let me know how it goes,
we can subtract the cost of the valuation fees from your final purchase
price.
Doesn't that sound great?
JS
=====================================================================

So is there something I should do with this guy's emails and information? Like somewhere to report him, or?
As I said, it's a good thing I stumbled across this forum. I'm sure I would have fallen for it because I just finished selling my first domain, and the transaction went very well. I still had dollar signs in my eyes when this dummy emailed me.
 
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He has emailed me a few a times. I ignored his first one and then when I received a second one I just simply stated "I am aware of how your so called company and scam works which is posted on several domain forums. Either remove my email address from your scamming list or I will be forced to take legal action."

Would of been fun if he responded back but haven't heard anything since then.
 
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Robert Everett Scam

Looks like he tried to scam me too and he did have me fooled until I came across his forum. I only got 1 email from him and I replied to it saying that I was only taking $10 for the domain name lol Lets see what he says about that. Below is the email he sent me.

Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Robert Everett

President

OBN Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

Usually scammers use hotmail or gmail accounts to scam with thats what I usually use to tell if people are genuine or not so he could easily trick a few people with this sadly.
 
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Matthew Ledingham @ theonlinebrokerage.com

... almost believed it :rolleyes:

Haha i got the CEO :D

Original message:
___________________________

100'000GBP. Ok.

It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7042591.htm

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.

----- Original Message -----
From: "MS"
To: "'Ledingham'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:50 PM
Subject: AW: it-tor.com (sent 07/16/09)


Hello,

Why celebrate if it's not even your child ?

I changed my mind, under 100'000GBP you won't get the Domain..

Btw. the response was fast enough (1h26min..)

If you are still interested go to
http://www.sedo.de/search/details.php4?domain=it-tor.com&tracked=&partnerid=
&language=d and make an offer.

Also looking forward to do business with you!

Best regards
MS


-----Ursprรผngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ledingham [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juli 2009 08:11
An: MS
Betreff: Re: it-tor.com (sent 07/16/09)


My wife gave birth to a child. So I could not respond fast. We celebrated.

3000. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very

important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7053691.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price

accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.


-----Ursprรผngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juli 2009 00:17

Betreff: it-tor.com (sent 07/16/09)

Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Matthew Ledingham

CEO

OBN Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================
 
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Another one! I tore this guy a new @rsehole!

Hi Guys,

I'm also a newbie, but my common sense (and fanatical grammar skills) got the better of me and I ended up googling the pr|ck.


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Hi,

Your wife seems to be giving birth alot. I searched the scam websites and it seems like everyone knows about you, or your wife, or your sister and her babies.

Are you all inbred? Must be nice keeping the family close and reproducing carbon copies of your tiny brain.

So, how's the scam working for you anyway?

I will NEVER get my domains appraised, especially with you. So go eat a d*ck.

Value of my domains is whatever I feel its worth and what the buyer thinks is the right price.

Don't put a value on my domains and then ask to get it appraised. Anyone with half a brain could see through the cracks - anyone like you is a sucker.

This morning, I took a big sh*t and thought about you. Funny, that your very existence is merely compared to faeces.

You've sent me three of the same emails, each with a different name, position and title.

For someone with "money" your websites are like wiping your arse with sandpaper. They hurt to look at it.

Your grammar is extremely poor for a CEO, so you're definitely the CEO of inbred morons.

I have reported you to every authority I could find on the internet.

You really are an idiot. Have a nice day.


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On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Ledingham <[email protected]> wrote:

My wife gave birth to a child. So I could not respond fast. We celebrated.

Can you accept 6 000 USD for the following package:
purities.info $5000
reverses.info $1000
reverts.info $1000

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.




----- Original Message -----
From: Tomer G
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: plated.info (sent 07/21/09)

Hi,

Yes, I am interested in selling my domains, including ***.info.

Please find a list of my domains available and prices (which are negotiable on some).

Please note, I only accept payment via PayPal and all transfer fees (if any) are the buyer's responsibility. All prices are in US dollars. All .info's are from GoDaddy so if you have an account there it makes it very easy.

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DOMAINS LISTED HERE
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Please let me know if you are interested in any. I am happy to discuss the costs, as well as package them up.

Kind Regards,

Tomer.



On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Matthew Ledingham

CEO

OBN Real Estate LLC
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I celebrated (nearly)

aussierocker said:

"Your wife seems to be giving birth alot. I searched the scam websites and it seems like everyone knows about you, or your wife, or your sister and her babies."

Rofl, indeed. I signed up with Sedo and within less than 24 hrs, I got the scam, and replied with this:



Mr Ledingham,

I'll take 10.7 million and 69c in US dollars, because I'm in a good mood due to my hamster just having had a baby. I celebrated.

It's no surprise to me that a CEO has contacted me about this site, as w****underwear.com is set to become the next business.com. Everybody's talking about it on Facebook and Myspace, and my Twitter account is in danger of being frozen because of all the extreme traffic generated. Even my kid sister agrees on this, and she's no dumba*s. Therefore, I'm afraid I will not be giving it away for pocket money.

I hope the figure above is within the spending range of your illustrious firm Mr Ledingham. I'm sure if you approach a reputable valuation company, they will actually place the realistic price higher. So feel free to take advantage of any that you know, and reassure yourself of the unrepeatable bargain I am offering here.

In passing, I thought I'd better point out that all the links on your freely hosted GoDaddy site are broken. You might want to discuss this with them as it could potentially damage your company's internationally prestigious reputation.

Good day,

B Gone


> From: [email protected]
>
> Subject: w****underwear.com (sent 07/22/09)
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:55:25 -0400
>
> Hello,
>
> Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.
>
> We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
> web sites too.
>
> If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.
>
> Looking forward to do business with you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthew Ledingham
>
> CEO
>
> OBN Real Estate LLC
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> NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
> information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
> viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
> unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
> and deleting it from your computer.
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Bahahahah!

I wish I got to play with him a little more... You always think of the best things to say when it's too late!

Maybe I'll just wait till he emails me again...
 
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Just got the same rubbish scam email now too... where is this guy phishing the emails from?

I googled OBN realestate and the first result on google led me to this topic... :P
 
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