TheOnlineBrokerage.com???

[datamerc]

I got a strange email this afternoon, that looked too good to be true (The red flags went up after I received his reply)

The first email...

Hello, 
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 

Your domain name has been found online. We are very interested in it. Please let us know your price. 

This is not our main business but we make money on buying/seling domains. 

This is a profitable business. Looking forward to do business with you. 

Regards, 
Michael E Myers 
Vice President 
OB Securities LLC 

======================================================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing,
 copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, 
please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ========================================================

Here is his reply...

Hi David! 

Can you accept 12,000 USD? 

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? 

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? 

I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. 

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. 

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/486935.htm 

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. 

I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. 

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? 

Hope we can come to an agreement fast. 

Looking forward to your reply.

Scary stuff out there for people who take the bait

 

[valance]

That's the exact email that Wargacki scammer sent me when I told him I was reporting him to my bank and authorities. I'm gonna give these domain explorer people a call soon - have just asked them thru the Plimus site to clarify whether the (509) is a country code (which in their case would be Haiti) or an area/state code (which looks like Washington if they're in the US) so will be interesting to read their reply if they reply at all.

Forster, it's obvious we should join forces (and anybody else here who got suckered by these rats) and resources - the more victims that the FBI and banks have to cross reference the quicker they'll nail these guys and force them to come clean and cough up.

PM me with your email and we can keep in touch regarding new and updated communication with the onlinebrokerage/domainexplorer scammers.

I see they're still operating from easynamesale.com - exact same site, just different header.

Are you keeping all the emails between you and these rats? The more evidence the better - I have kept everything and have no intention of letting this go. I'm pissed! I'm not letting these wankers get away.

Which scammer alias are they using thru the Pllimus site when communicating with you, Forster? Melvin Ebenstein?

---------- Post added at 11:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 AM ----------

@Forster - have you received anything like this yet from domainexplorer thru the Plimus.com?

"We don't operate DOB: Hot Tips for Online Investors. You may responsible for false compalints. We are not scammers. However we will investigate the situation because it can make damage to our reputation. However, you can find such fake postings about almost each and every company Examples: Sedo - Buy and Sell Domain Names and Websites SEDO SCAM: Euros Not Equal To Us Dollars Lawsuit alleges dealings in stolen domain name Is Afternic auctioning off STOLEN and HIJACKED domains? We have your order on file. You have agreed with our user agreement in which we stated that we did not provide refunds for this service. We have already paid independent experts for appraisal of your name and we cannot cancel this transaction. Our company does not earn money on appraisals. We pay all the money to experts and provide this service to satisfy demands of our domain sellers.

We are for seven years in this business and have many happy customers. Here is the one of letters our customers send us regularly: =================================== "----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Cochran Subject: Re: appraisal All I can say is wow. You guys are a hard working bunch. I very much appriciate the time and effort you and your team put in. Keep up the great work. Me and my partner phillip plan to use your service quite a bit in the coming years. Thanks again, Phillip" "----- ----- ===================================

The customers appreciate our fast service and customer support. Anyway, if you are not satisfied with our service, we can offer you listing of your appraised domains in the premium showcase for free. We will also provide you with free escrow. We list all domains until they are sold.We will help you to sell your domains and you'll see that we are a legitimate company with reliable business model. Satisfaction of our customers is very important for us.

Sincerely, Melvin Ebenstein Customer Support"

 

[valance]

i've sent wargacki an email asking for his business phone number - wonder if he'll give it.

Assuming these rats are located in the UK and/or the US (which seems to be the case) then it won't take much to pinpoint them.

 

[faceb]

Here's another one!

Glad you guys are here because I probably would have fallen for it if I hadn't read this forum. I tried to have some fun with this idiot, but apparently he's too dumb to take a hint and quit.....here are the emails: (my name blocked out for privacy). Can you believe he actually responded to me after the first email? Is there even a real person on the other end reading replies? I have arranged the emails so that you can read from the top down. (First email at the top)
========================================================================

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <***********.ca>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:38 PM
>>>> Subject: ***********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names
>>>>> and
>>>>> web sites too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to do business with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Everett
>>>>>
>>>>> President
>>>>>
>>>>> OBN Real Estate LLC
>>>>> ========================================================
>>>>> NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
>>>>> information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
>>>>> viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
>>>>> unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>>>>> this
>>>>> message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the
>>>>> message
>>>>> and deleting it from your computer.
>>>>> =================================================
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date:
>>>> 07/08/09
>>>> 05:53:00
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

MY REPLY:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "J S******" <***********.ca>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: ***********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow! Thanks for your interest, Robert.....
>>>> You may purchase the domain for $12,000 USD.
>>>> Let me know if you're interested and how we would manage to move
>>>> forward
>>>> with the transaction, ok?
>>>>
>>>> JS

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09
05:55:00

===================================================================
HIS REPLY TO ME:


>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Everett" <[email protected]>
>> To: "J S*****" <*********.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: *********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>>
>>
>>> My sister gave birth to a child. So I could not respond fast. We
>>> celebrated.
>>>
>>> Can you accept 11 000 USD?
>>>
>>> Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?
>>>
>>> Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.
>>>
>>> Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
>>> appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's
>>> very
>>> important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a
>>> valuation
>>> company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
>>> independent sources I and my partners trust.
>>>
>>> To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
>>> companies.
>>>
>>> Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
>>> http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7042591.htm
>>>
>>> If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking
>>> price
>>> accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
>>> discount.
>>>
>>> After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
>>> obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.
>>>
>>> What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
>>> transfer, PayPal.com or something else?
>>>
>>> Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your reply.

==================================================================
MY REPLY:

----- Original Message -----
> From: "J S*******" <***********.ca>
> To: "Everett" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: *********.com (sent 07/08/09)
>
>
>> Congratulations, your sister had YOUR baby. How nice for you.
>> So here is what I propose Robert, ok?
>> Certainly I can accept $11,000 U.S.D. for the domain. You must really
>> want this domain. You don't ask for much and you seem ready to go. Can
>> I make just one request before we decide to proceed? It's a simple request,
>> but very meaningful to me.
>>
>> I would request that you kindly pick your broken scam up off the internet
>> floor. Any polite boy knows that when he makes a mess, he should pick it
>> up, otherwise others who cross your path will see the mess you've made.
>> Ooops, too late?
>> No Robert, Tom, Dick, Harry or whoever you are - I won't be having the
>> domain valuated. That would make you money dick head, not me! It might
>> interest you to know that your scam is not much of a trick anymore
>> Einstein. As I said, it's broken now. You were too careless and now
>> everybody knows all about it. Pick it up Robert, Pick it up and put it
>> where it goes now ok? In the trash.
>>
>> Goodnight Robert.
>>
=================================================================
YES, HE ACTUALLY REPLIED TO THAT:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Everett" <[email protected]>
To: "J S*****" <***********.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: ***********.com (sent 07/08/09)


> Thank you for congratulations!
>
> It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to
> buyers/resellers.
> Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no
> intention
> of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.
>
> Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
> manual valuation is a "must" too.
>
> I read the following information about appraisals at:
> http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7042591.htm
>
> Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.
>
===================================================================
MY FINAL REPLY TO HIM - SO FAR NO FURTHER RESPONSE BACK:


Please feel free to have the domain valuated and let me know how it goes,
we can subtract the cost of the valuation fees from your final purchase
price.
Doesn't that sound great?
JS
=====================================================================

So is there something I should do with this guy's emails and information? Like somewhere to report him, or?
As I said, it's a good thing I stumbled across this forum. I'm sure I would have fallen for it because I just finished selling my first domain, and the transaction went very well. I still had dollar signs in my eyes when this dummy emailed me.

 

[-Adam-]

He has emailed me a few a times. I ignored his first one and then when I received a second one I just simply stated "I am aware of how your so called company and scam works which is posted on several domain forums. Either remove my email address from your scamming list or I will be forced to take legal action."

Would of been fun if he responded back but haven't heard anything since then.

 

[blupa]

Robert Everett Scam

Looks like he tried to scam me too and he did have me fooled until I came across his forum. I only got 1 email from him and I replied to it saying that I was only taking $10 for the domain name lol Lets see what he says about that. Below is the email he sent me.

Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Robert Everett

President

OBN Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

Usually scammers use hotmail or gmail accounts to scam with thats what I usually use to tell if people are genuine or not so he could easily trick a few people with this sadly.

 

[cgibin]

Matthew Ledingham @ theonlinebrokerage.com

... almost believed it

Haha i got the CEO :D

Original message:
___________________________

100'000GBP. Ok.

It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7042591.htm

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.

----- Original Message -----
From: "MS"
To: "'Ledingham'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:50 PM
Subject: AW: it-tor.com (sent 07/16/09)


Hello,

Why celebrate if it's not even your child ?

I changed my mind, under 100'000GBP you won't get the Domain..

Btw. the response was fast enough (1h26min..)

If you are still interested go to
http://www.sedo.de/search/details.php4?domain=it-tor.com&tracked=&partnerid=
&language=d and make an offer.

Also looking forward to do business with you!

Best regards
MS


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ledingham [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juli 2009 08:11
An: MS
Betreff: Re: it-tor.com (sent 07/16/09)


My wife gave birth to a child. So I could not respond fast. We celebrated.

3000. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very

important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/7053691.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price

accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Juli 2009 00:17

Betreff: it-tor.com (sent 07/16/09)

Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Matthew Ledingham

CEO

OBN Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[aussierocker]

Another one! I tore this guy a new @rsehole!

Hi Guys,

I'm also a newbie, but my common sense (and fanatical grammar skills) got the better of me and I ended up googling the pr|ck.


--------------------


Hi,

Your wife seems to be giving birth alot. I searched the scam websites and it seems like everyone knows about you, or your wife, or your sister and her babies.

Are you all inbred? Must be nice keeping the family close and reproducing carbon copies of your tiny brain.

So, how's the scam working for you anyway?

I will NEVER get my domains appraised, especially with you. So go eat a d*ck.

Value of my domains is whatever I feel its worth and what the buyer thinks is the right price.

Don't put a value on my domains and then ask to get it appraised. Anyone with half a brain could see through the cracks - anyone like you is a sucker.

This morning, I took a big sh*t and thought about you. Funny, that your very existence is merely compared to faeces.

You've sent me three of the same emails, each with a different name, position and title.

For someone with "money" your websites are like wiping your arse with sandpaper. They hurt to look at it.

Your grammar is extremely poor for a CEO, so you're definitely the CEO of inbred morons.

I have reported you to every authority I could find on the internet.

You really are an idiot. Have a nice day.


- Hide quoted text -


On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Ledingham <[email protected]> wrote:

My wife gave birth to a child. So I could not respond fast. We celebrated.

Can you accept 6 000 USD for the following package:
purities.info $5000
reverses.info $1000
reverts.info $1000

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.




----- Original Message -----
From: Tomer G
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: plated.info (sent 07/21/09)

Hi,

Yes, I am interested in selling my domains, including ***.info.

Please find a list of my domains available and prices (which are negotiable on some).

Please note, I only accept payment via PayPal and all transfer fees (if any) are the buyer's responsibility. All prices are in US dollars. All .info's are from GoDaddy so if you have an account there it makes it very easy.

-----
DOMAINS LISTED HERE
------

Please let me know if you are interested in any. I am happy to discuss the costs, as well as package them up.

Kind Regards,

Tomer.



On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Matthew Ledingham

CEO

OBN Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[Reason]

I celebrated (nearly)

aussierocker said:

"Your wife seems to be giving birth alot. I searched the scam websites and it seems like everyone knows about you, or your wife, or your sister and her babies."

Rofl, indeed. I signed up with Sedo and within less than 24 hrs, I got the scam, and replied with this:



Mr Ledingham,

I'll take 10.7 million and 69c in US dollars, because I'm in a good mood due to my hamster just having had a baby. I celebrated.

It's no surprise to me that a CEO has contacted me about this site, as w****underwear.com is set to become the next business.com. Everybody's talking about it on Facebook and Myspace, and my Twitter account is in danger of being frozen because of all the extreme traffic generated. Even my kid sister agrees on this, and she's no dumba*s. Therefore, I'm afraid I will not be giving it away for pocket money.

I hope the figure above is within the spending range of your illustrious firm Mr Ledingham. I'm sure if you approach a reputable valuation company, they will actually place the realistic price higher. So feel free to take advantage of any that you know, and reassure yourself of the unrepeatable bargain I am offering here.

In passing, I thought I'd better point out that all the links on your freely hosted GoDaddy site are broken. You might want to discuss this with them as it could potentially damage your company's internationally prestigious reputation.

Good day,

B Gone


> From: [email protected]
>
> Subject: w****underwear.com (sent 07/22/09)
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:55:25 -0400
>
> Hello,
>
> Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.
>
> We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
> web sites too.
>
> If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.
>
> Looking forward to do business with you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthew Ledingham
>
> CEO
>
> OBN Real Estate LLC
> ========================================================
> NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
> information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
> viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
> unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
> and deleting it from your computer.
> ========================================================
>

 

[aussierocker]

Bahahahah!

I wish I got to play with him a little more... You always think of the best things to say when it's too late!

Maybe I'll just wait till he emails me again...

 

[cwinhall]

Just got the same rubbish scam email now too... where is this guy phishing the emails from?

I googled OBN realestate and the first result on google led me to this topic... :P

 

[Reason]

I wish I got to play with him a little more... You always think of the best things to say when it's too late!

Maybe I'll just wait till he emails me again...

You did well mate - made me do a real LOL there :tu:

Just got the same rubbish scam email now too... where is this guy phishing the emails from?

I googled OBN realestate and the first result on google led me to this topic... :P

They've obviously got some script monitoring new arrivals at Sedo, thinking they're 'newbs' and therefore easy meat for their diabolically dimwitted scheme.

Strangely I didn't get a reply to my very generous offer. Maybe I hurt Mr Ledingham's feelings in some way, perhaps 10 mil was slightly over his budget, or maybe someone else in his family had a baby and he's busy celebrating again; BUT, not long after I sent it, I got a mail from 'Nominet' saying my Whois details and email had been regged with them. This took me somewhat by surprise, as it wasn't me who made an account with them...

I've no idea what these fools hope to achieve by impostoring me there, but it must've been them. It's too coincidental.

Anyway, I reported them to the online cops here - http://www.ripofftipoff.net/

Lol.

 

[DigiNames]

The guy is using my name.... I received an email from these scammers a few years ago, so I think they must have got my name from that time or from the whois of one of my domains.

I got a phone call at my business from someone that had got this email (my business ironically is in real estate). I told him it sounded suspicious, but that I had nothing to do with it.

It sucks that I am involved in domains and real estate, and he is using my name...

 

[Reason]

Hmm, dumb as he/they is/are, that confusion with you is probably intentional, unluckily for you :/

I really hope this isn't some kind of inside job, and that someone in Sedo isn't feeding him info, or worse that he's employed by Sedo.

Surely they wouldn't employ someone as dumb as this though. He can't even make a site with working links, lol.

 

[Bestone]

its fake email just ignore the it.

 

[WSOPdns]

More of the same...

Same dude, same scam today for one of my domains (listed on Sedo). I won't waste my time replying to this guy, but here's his initial message:

Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Sean Wagner

CEO

TBN Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[dikki6]

douce bag

The evaluation stated the domains are worth 97 027 USD and 12 pesos, 2 goats, a fish sandwich, 4 hookers (in Vegas, of course), 2 new tires for my truck and a 12-pack of Bud Light.

I'll send you a PayPal money request.

Please make sure the hookers are clean, and the Bud Light is cold.

Oh, wait, are you going to use these domains for porn? Because if you are, I want 8 hookers instead of 4.

-- Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: Wagner [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:48 PM
To: Rich Beck
Subject: Re: grabyourgear.com (sent 07/31/09)


Hello,

Can you accept 20 000 USD for all three?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very
important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price
accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

 

[highnfar]

I am feeling so lucky to find you guys here! I got same emails yesterday!

Hello,

Are you interested in sale of your domain? Please name your price.

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Sean Wagner

CEO

TBN Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

2500. Ok
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://discussdomains.007sites.com/Archive/7092861.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention
of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://discussdomains.007sites.com/Archive/7092861.htm

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.

 

[Reason]

If there's some good to come out of this laughable fiasco, it's free publicity for this forum :lol:

 

[JollyD]

I have bitten the bait im afraid to say, naive as I was. I DID buy appraisals from domain explorer, and i DID continue to email this supposed scammer. I asked Plimus for a refund explaining the situation, and they then claimed I had made a false claim and they were getting their lawyers involved!

So I really don't know what to do.

 

[Reason]

Their lawyers? I wouldnt stay with such a customer-hostile company for a minute longer. You could point them at this thread for s start though...Though if they are anything like Paypal, they might not give any of their priceless time to anything so trivial as supporting evidence.

Most of these payment companies blow a lot of hot air about how safe and client concerned they are, but ultimately just take the path of least resistance.

 

[JollyD]

Unfortunately you are right. ALOT of hot. With them I am no longer!

I suggest people watch out for this if this happens and get hold of you bank to initiate immediate charge backs concerning domainexplorer.org with Plimus, which is what I'm currently doing!

 

[dotwhat]

Hello and thank you all for this great site ... I have learned a lot as the information here is priceless.
Just received an email that sounded too good to be true but with your help I was able to protect myself.

Much love.

 

[Robin]

Its a very common scam, used by many scammers. Thanks for notifying.

 

[tiptop]

Thanks for the info guys/gals. I avoided this stinky scam, thankfully but just got the email yesterday. Although I wasted about an hour doing a little digging and eventually landing here, at least I got a good laugh from what some of you emailed back to this silly bas-turd.

 

[sidekick_33]

Received this email 12/16/09 from [email protected].


Can you accept 4500?
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
domainexplorer . org /Archive-09-2009/91462735.htm][/url]

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.



Looks like this guy is still kicking around!