TheOnlineBrokerage.com???

[datamerc]

I got a strange email this afternoon, that looked too good to be true (The red flags went up after I received his reply)

The first email...

Hello, 
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 

Your domain name has been found online. We are very interested in it. Please let us know your price. 

This is not our main business but we make money on buying/seling domains. 

This is a profitable business. Looking forward to do business with you. 

Regards, 
Michael E Myers 
Vice President 
OB Securities LLC 

======================================================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing,
 copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, 
please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ========================================================

Here is his reply...

Hi David! 

Can you accept 12,000 USD? 

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? 

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? 

I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. 

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. 

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/486935.htm 

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. 

I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. 

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? 

Hope we can come to an agreement fast. 

Looking forward to your reply.

Scary stuff out there for people who take the bait

 

[fico]

Have got the same email about one of my domain today

 

[r5000]

Hi, this is the widely know appraisal scam: http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/492270-easynamesale-com-scam-phrllc-phreaker-net.html
The guy make you believe he will buy your domain name only if you do appraisal, he will refer you to fake forum where some people advice an other to buy appraisal at easynamesale.com, looks like the guy changed is website address and it is called domainexplorer.org now. Beware, it will charge you 60 euros and he won't purchase the domain name

 

[liquidcherry]

lol, just look at the website and you know it is fake/scam/scum....

Cheers

frank

 

[Tribulatio]

Definitely: I got the same yesterday, and it was so obvious - only naive people could fall into such a trap - or people who are not familiar with domaining, hence the use of forums such as NP for newbies. Of course, in some cases, probably greed overcomes common sense ("12'000 $"....).

I answered politely, not showing that I knew that it was a scam, but refusing to pay for any appraisal. I then received the following reply:

It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention
of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated vlauations. So
manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
http://domainblog.007sites.com/486935.htm

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.

Amazing that they could quote such crude fake forum pages. But I assume it works quite a few times, otherwise people would desist.

 

[nFn]

Got one today as well.. this time he was
Marc Shavell
Vice President
VOB Services LLC
Real Estate Brokerage Services

 

[scriptjunkie]

I got one yesterday from:

Jeffrey Burnstein
CEO
OBS LLC

 

[-Adam-]

I got one yesterday from:

Jeffrey Burnstein
CEO
OBS LLC

Yea it looks like Jeffrey is another one of the pond scum microbes at the bottom of a cess pool trying to take people's hard earned money.

 

[aclottmann]

Got the same thing today.

Thanks for this thread. My email looked like:

Hello,

My name is Jeffrey Burnstein and I'm very interested in your domain.

Investing in domains is a profitable business.

Please let me know your price for the domain in the subject line. If you
have other good names just send me the list with prices.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Robert Paulson
President
TRS LLC​

So is it Jeffrey Burnstein or Robert Paulson? Can they not afford multiple email accounts?

Thought this looked a bit odd, so searched on the domain of the email address and found this thread. I'm no domain pro, just happen to need some cash and have some domains I'd like to think are worth something. The email and their(?) GoDaddy-hosted page looked very questionable, so I don't think I would have fallen for the trap, but I was about to engage in a discussion with Jeffrey (or Robert). Now think I'll pass.

Thanks again...

 

[FLDataTek]

I got one yesterday from:

Jeffrey Burnstein
CEO
OBS LLC

Yeah i got the same email from the same guy too.. but when I looked at his web page I figured it for a scam..

 

[-NC-]

"This is not our main business"

These guys have been sending out this same email for years. I assume it must work on a lot of people, else they would change the wording.

 

[CPHJackal]

Just got one now. The email read :


Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. Our company is interested in easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Christopher Eagleson
CEO
TB Real Estate LLC

Thanks for the advice though guys. I'm new to the game and might have fallen for it, but probably not after seeing some dodgy site and being asked for appraisals later on in the conversation.
Good ole NP's comes to the rescue

Wow, the lows these people will go to.

Reply:


We were celebrating newborn child of my brother. I apologize for delay with my answer.

Can you accept 15,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://domainblog.007sites.com/691428.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

 

[pk81]

Yep got something like that a while ago

Hello,

We are interested in your domain name for sale.

Investing in domains is a profitable business. We are in real estate
business. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Steven Campanella
Vice President
Elite Investment Group
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[cornnfedd]

still scamming people, i had an email the other day as soon as i posted a domain on sedo for the first time, they are obviously checking sedo somehow.

wankers!

 

[ThomasSmerdon]

theonlinebrokerage.com domain details...

Got the following details by doing a search for theonlinebrokerage.com on Easily.co.uk and then clicking the "i" next to theonlinebrokerage.com...


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while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
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dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes.

Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.


Registrant:
Thomas Smerdon
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Browser Update Page)
Domain Name: THEONLINEBROKERAGE.COM
Created on: 23-Dec-08
Expires on: 23-Dec-09
Last Updated on: 23-Dec-08

Administrative Contact:
Smerdon, Thomas [email protected]
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom
441935824917 Fax --

Technical Contact:
Smerdon, Thomas [email protected]
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom
441935824917 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS61.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS62.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

 

[RichardMoog]

I also received a mail from them yesterday.
When i read the mail i felt there was something wrong.
I typed their domain name in Google and found this post on #1 in Google.
Again this is a prove that Namepros is a great forum to get your information from :blink:

 

[michaelbak]

Thanks for the heads up, I got a couple of those as well.

 

[VelikiMo]

E-mail I have received from [email protected] is better than Yours ... :lol:

**********************************************

Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. Our company is interested in easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Andrew Weisberg
CEO
OB Real Estate LLC

***********************************************************
I responded with a price and this is the response I got.
***********************************************************

We were celebrating newborn child of my brother. I apologize for delay with
my answer. <<< my comment to this >>>:o
4100 for all three domains. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very
important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
Domain Talk

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price
accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

***************************************************************

I responded again, but still waiting for a new mail

Also, please visit this page with information of this scammer... I hope that I do not break any Name Pros rules with this link:
Helping Prevent Identity Theft and Internet Phishing Scams: Domain Name Scam - Warning

Best regards from Serbia,
Veliki Mo

 

[manishem]

I got an email today regarding a domain I have parked.

Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. Our company is interested in easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Andrew Weisberg
CEO
OB Real Estate LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[BitcoinDK]

It seems people DO fall for it:
http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/579324-xts-someone-trying-sell-my-domain.html

 

[miranon]

I got today one:

Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. We are in real estate business. Our company is interested in
easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Ronald Isaacks

CEO

JPS Online Real Estate LLC
[email protected]

 

[webnames]

BEWARE of DomainExplorer.org

It seems that someone may contact you - make an offer on your domain and demand that you use this site: domainexplorer.org. This is a scam and all they are trying to do is get you to sign up for a domain appraisal. Once you do the buyer suddenly disappears and is not interested but yet you have dished out the money for a domain appraisal causing that false buyer to receive affiliate monies or commission. BEWARE of this site also: nametalk. 007sites .com/Archive/692538.htm]
and an email from this guy: [email protected]

attached is a copy of the email:

Can you accept 15,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
nametalk. 007sites . com/Archive/692538.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

This is a scam.

 

[Grand Cross]

~
http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/579480-am-i-going-to-get-scammed.html
http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/546019-theonlinebrokerage-com.html

 

[axolotl]

Re. Scam

I got today one:

Me too. Yet another new-Sedo-listing followup.

==========================================

Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. We are in real estate business. Our company is interested in
easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Ronald Isaacks

CEO

JPS Online Real Estate LLC
[email protected]

 

[meseta]

same company I think......

Good day all,

Me too !

I have just started to try and sell my domain name and website. I advertised it with a fairly reputable company ( SEDO ) , on commission, and sat back to the offers to roll in.

I see the name has changed but the tactics not !

Today I received this

"[email protected]
[email protected]

date24 May 2009 09:41
subjectlacasanova.com sent (05/23/09)

hide details 09:41 (27 minutes ago) Reply



Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. We are in real estate business. Our company is interested in
easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Ronald Isaacks

CEO

JPS Online Real Estate LLC
[email protected] "

Thank goodness I did a little research !

Thanks for giving exposure to this sort of conld be this sort of confidence trickery, it would be too easy to be taken in,

If I get a response to mine ( which included the price I want for my perfectly legitimate domain name and website ) I shall publish events here for all to see.