The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[Steven]

The ccTLDs ARE a good and PROVEN investment. They have been for years...
I'm not talking about exotic ccTLDs like .cc, .io or .vg but mature ones like the European extensions.


I beg to disagree. It's the opposite that happened. The lemmings jumped in from the very start. They should have waited for .tel to crash

I agree.

ccTLDs have always been a good investment (except for some exotic ones).

 

[DubDubDubDot]

That isn't logical. The popularity of a TLD directly relates to its value. COM does so well because it is the most popular TLD.

By your logic if .tel one day has the same number of registrations as .com, newyork.tel will have the same value as newyork.com.

 

[igo]

I just read your post and it seems you have the #1 Google result for "jay williams lake junaluska". I am not sure that term is a highly searched term, or what it proves for .TEL overall.

Brad

I guess claims about #1 shouldn't have been the lead. The point I was trying to make is that the .tel was very recently added (as almost all have) and google found the exact match!

The point is that the claim about the seo and google finding the key words is true! It found julius.tel which had the 100% match of the search term, but didn't give same relevance to jaywilliams.tel because it didn't have the search term. That adds to the claim that people will find you!

I shouldn't have linked it here, just very excited.

 

[Archangel]

By your logic if .tel one day has the same number of registrations as .com, newyork.tel will have the same value as newyork.com.

I don't think I understand exactly how you came to that conclusion.

 

[wot]

I don't think I understand exactly how you came to that conclusion.

If you consider there may be a parallel universe where .tel have been the norm and were first registered 18+ years ago, sex.tel sold for 14 million, business.tel 6 million- in this universe .com is the newbie and is under heavy scrutiny and may crash and burn in the not too distant future. :p

Fortunately there are enough .com believers and it is likely to get a small following of devotees as it can actually be developed- a new and potentially exciting concept.

Stop me if I am rambling.

 

[Archangel]

If you consider there may be a parallel universe where .tel have been the norm and were first registered 18+ years ago, sex.tel sold for 14 million, business.tel 6 million- in this universe .com is the newbie and is under heavy scrutiny and may crash and burn in the not too distant future. :p

Fortunately there are enough .com believers and it is likely to get a small following of devotees as it can actually be developed- a new and potentially exciting concept.

Stop me if I am rambling.

What I mean is: The more popular/widespread an ext is relates to the profitability of a domain in that extension. That cannot be argued. Would YOU rather have domain.net or domain.ws? And .com is king. Would YOU rather have domain.com or domain.net? This is simply logical thinking to an experienced domainer.

 

[ecigs.net]

By your logic if .tel one day has the same number of registrations as .com, newyork.tel will have the same value as newyork.com.

That's not the logic I used. Good try, but your interpretation of my logic is faulty. Com is COM. TEL isn't going to change that fact. What I said was that with more popular a TLD is (more registrations = greater demand and less supply) prices will go up not down as Acroplex claims. It is really just Economics 101 (the more people want an increasingly, rare product the higher the selling price). The product in this case being keyword and dictionary domain names. I am not saying anything that is not true in every other market on earth. Why should domains be any different?

For the record, I don't see TEL ever reaching COM prices. I do see TEL is another tool in my retail bag of tricks. It is just one more way to find customers. Good quality keywords will be valuable in a few years time, but COM will always be king.

 

[Archangel]

That's not the logic I used. Good try, but your interpretation of my logic is faulty. Com is COM. TEL isn't going to change that fact. What I said was that with more popular a TLD is (more registrations = greater demand and less supply) prices will go up not down as Acroplex claims. It is really just Economics 101 (the more people want an increasingly, rare product the higher the selling price). The product in this case being keyword and dictionary domain names. I am not saying anything that is not true in every other market on earth. Why should domains be any different?

For the record, I don't see TEL ever reaching COM prices. I do see TEL is another tool in my retail bag of tricks. It is just one more way to find customers. Good quality keywords will be valuable in a few years time, but COM will always be king.

Supply vs demand is true in every niche, yeah.
Well said, reps added

 

[spline]

The Telnic Roadmap

.tel Community | Roadmap

Sorry if this has allready been posted before, but there really are some nice plans ahead!

 

[lexisdomains]

This thread has become a little boring!

Does anybody have any exciting news to share about .TEL?

 

[TechZone]

Thanks for the update on this!
Traffic stats are a valuable addition as well as some of the customizations they have slated.

.tel Community | Roadmap

Sorry if this has allready been posted before, but there really are some nice plans ahead!

 

[valou]

Mass adoption for .tel does not equal monetization. Mass adoption also means a drop in resale pricing. If you're offering .tel domains to a billion customers that use it for personal purposes, they will get it from the Registry for reg fee. The pitfall of domainers that heavily invest in a TLD that cannot be monetized is punishable by monetary loss. For the last time, please, do not bring forth as an argument that an index of links on a text page is equal to potential or development.

.tel has been made to make money for Telnic + its future partners. The idea of introducing tel is a bright one as everyone can use a tel without knowing anything of development. This assures great expansion...

Monetization is difficult but not impossible. Monetization can be made and will be made using mobile operators and sms services.
i.e publish job postings but hide the employer info and then charge (using sms) for disclosing the rest of information.
or you can have a list of restaurants per location but hide their telephone and map details and disclose them after receiving payment. or publish properties for rent and do the same etc.
in conclusion, monetization is possible but different from what you were doing up to now i.e adsense and the like

 

[lexisdomains]

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[steveteva]

.tel Community | Roadmap

Sorry if this has allready been posted before, but there really are some nice plans ahead!

What is verry interesting is to see that in roadmap the email features like [email protected] This is already available on some hostings.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Monetization can be made and will be made using mobile operators and sms services.
i.e publish job postings but hide the employer info and then charge (using sms) for disclosing the rest of information.
or you can have a list of restaurants per location but hide their telephone and map details and disclose them after receiving payment. or publish properties for rent and do the same etc.
in conclusion, monetization is possible but different from what you were doing up to now i.e adsense and the like

Hello and welcome to 2009. I'm sorry, but these monetization ideas haven't worked online since the 90's. It would be ridiculous to run such a business model from a .tel profile anyway.

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I said earlier that the general public would be cold to paying for a networking site. My opinion was just based on a trend over the past decade of social sites being free of charge, and web surfers having become conditioned into not paying for them.

For those needing something a little more than that, take a look at this story.

Would you pay $1 a month for Facebook?
Would you pay $1 a month for Facebook? | Fully Equipped - CNET Reviews

There is a poll that asks "How much would you be willing to pay for Facebook?" The choices are $1, 50 cents or nothing. After 17,650 votes a vast majority 87.7% would pay nothing and go elsewhere.

That shoots down those ludicrous claims earlier in the thread that .tel is going to make the traditional phone book obsolete.

It also calls into question the claims of many .tel domainers that mass adaptation of .tel will shoot it's value up. If people aren't willing to pay a similar price for Facebook, a service of extremely high social value that has already been accepted, then I don't see how .tel can go mainstream.

 

[spline]

Thing is, people are willing to pay if its something that gives them status or something exclusive. Facebook is not something exclusive.

And that poll might not be that correct. I´m quite sure that many would acctually pay if they had to, they just don't want facebook to know about it.

How many does not pay for premium membership at datingsites?

How many pay for expensive brands just because of the brand?

Hello and welcome to 2009. I'm sorry, but these monetization ideas haven't worked online since the 90's. It would be ridiculous to run such a business model from a .tel profile anyway.

---------- Post added at 09:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:28 AM ----------

I said earlier that the general public would be cold to paying for a networking site. My opinion was just based on a trend over the past decade of social sites being free of charge, and web surfers having become conditioned into not paying for them.

For those needing something a little more than that, take a look at this story.

Would you pay $1 a month for Facebook?
Would you pay $1 a month for Facebook? | Fully Equipped - CNET Reviews

There is a poll that asks "How much would you be willing to pay for Facebook?" The choices are $1, 50 cents or nothing. After 17,650 votes a vast majority 87.7% would pay nothing and go elsewhere.

That shoots down those ludicrous claims earlier in the thread that .tel is going to make the traditional phone book obsolete.

It also calls into question the claims of many .tel domainers that mass adaptation of .tel will shoot it's value up. If people aren't willing to pay a similar price for Facebook, a service of extremely high social value that has already been accepted, then I don't see how .tel can go mainstream.

 

[FreakySteve]

Any poll asking what people will pay for something that has an option of $0 will always show $0 as the favored result.

If people have the choice of paying or not paying, all things equal, why would anyone choose to pay?

People would pay for FB if there was no similar alternative, just like any other service. It may drop their user base if it was paid access only, but they would still have lots of members.

Same is applicable to dot-tel. If people can see the value, $10/year is peanuts.

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Evidently, there is a lively (albeit illegal) aftermarket on premium Twitter user names.

Never underestimate the power of vanity and status branding.


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[Work In Progress]

Thing is, people are willing to pay if its something that gives them status or something exclusive. Facebook is not something exclusive.

And that poll might not be that correct. I´m quite sure that many would acctually pay if they had to, they just don't want facebook to know about it.

How many does not pay for premium membership at datingsites?

How many pay for expensive brands just because of the brand?

The bottom line is, people will pay for services / products that offer specific value to them. Dating sites, for instance, offer other access to members that usually are only accessible via membership. Pretty good incentive to pay if you want to join in the online dating game. Yes, some to pay premiums for the prestige value as well. At this stage, .tel offers neither. Why would anyone utilize a .tel site, knowing they'd have to pay for "more info" they can get free at the .com petitor (or .mobi, .info, etc)? If a .tel can give a customer something they can't get anywhere else, then there's hope with charging a premium. But, from what I've seen, contact info , links or phone numbers can be easily had free via multiple other avenues (even while on the go)

As for paying more for brand name recognition, .tel has a long way to go before this will happen as well, IMHO. Rolex, Mercedes, Gucci, Coach and others like them all have well recognized branding as well as exceptional quality that makes them desirable to many.

 

[lexisdomains]

Is that really so?

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Evidently, there is a lively (albeit illegal) aftermarket on premium Twitter user names.

Never underestimate the power of vanity and status branding.


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Wow! This is quite shocking! I always wondered how top companies were able to get thier twitter profiles when they were already populated.