The official .mobi, .asia, .IDN sucks thread

[soggyindo]

The official .mobi/ .asia/ .me/ .TV sucks thread

It seems every good thread these days gets filled with .mobi/ .asia/ .IDN/ .TV/ .us, debates. So here's a thread we can have at it! We can also refer people here if things get heated.



I'll start with a neutral statement:

WTF is the point of .mobi?

 

[martina2061]

As I said earlier, it is still very, very early. If you don't have any .asia then you have nothing to worry about. Some of us think it will do reasonably well and we're not buying them with your money.

 

[raredn.com]

As I said earlier, it is still very, very early. If you don't have any .asia then you have nothing to worry about.

So the warning is here people, as martina2061 has pointed out above, if you [highlight] DO[/highlight] have .asia names, then you[highlight] DO [/highlight]have something to worry about :great:

No offence, just having some fun,

Thanks for taking part martina2061

 

[martina2061]

So the warning is here people, as martina2061 has said above, if you [highlight] do[/highlight] have .asia names, then you[highlight] DO [/highlight]have something to worry about :great:

No offence, just having some fun,

Thanks for taking part martina2061

It's good to talk it out because I know I've had the same doubts as you at times when buying .asia but my optimism won over. Who knows, may pay off.

 

[raredn.com]

It's good to talk it out because I know I've had the same doubts as you at times when buying .asia but my optimism won over. Who knows, may pay off.

It may do, .TV paid of surprisingly better (for some people on here, actually one person comes to mind, that is namepros user .TV) then I would have expected

 

[michaeldotcom]

It's good to talk it out because I know I've had the same doubts as you at times when buying .asia but my optimism won over. Who knows, may pay off.

Just like others in this thread, I don't see much value in .asia domains for the aforementioned reasons.

However, domaining is all about taking risks. Maybe you will be proved right and we will be proved wrong. Who knows ?

Anyway, I wish you all the best for your investments.

 

[martina2061]

Thank you

 

[Sufyan]

Well in that case, I hope that people get .asia versions of all my .coms and hold onto them for dear life, not just 'copout' and let them drop in a years time

Have you heard Frank said this? "the trend is your friend and that trend is still .com .. stick with .com and you will create more opportunity for yourself. More opportunity for traffic, more opportunity for sales."

I agree with him 100% and so do you. Right?

 

[raredn.com]

Have you heard Frank said this? "the trend is your friend and that trend is still .com .. stick with .com and you will create more opportunity for yourself. More opportunity for traffic, more opportunity for sales."

I agree with him 100% and so do you. Right?

Well my domain collection contains hundreds of .com's, 2 .orgs and a handful of specific country code domain names, so if Mr Schilling is right, I have nothing to fear

 

[Sam]

I will answer your question after you answer my question which is:

WTF is the point of any extension except .com?

To please the non-americans.

.DE - germany
.DK - Denmark

ETC ETC.

.COM - USA
.US - poor hopeless cctld

Its too bad the mainstream domainer market has a large share of Americans. Of course we would think the tld we use is the kind of the world. What else is new?

ccTLDS will dominate the world except for one place, the USA.

 

[-REECE-]

So true :lol:

.US - poor hopeless cctld

 

[Sam]

90% CCTLDS 7% other 3% .COM

Fair to say that I am the most diversified american there is

 

[martina2061]

I like the way you think Sam :kickass:

 

[scandiman]

Any extension beside .com is there to strengthen and popularize .com!

Yup, .edu, .gov and .mil were included in the list of original tld's for just that purpose. :hehe:

 

[michaeldotcom]

Any extension beside .com is there to strengthen and popularize .com!

Sure that's what top .com domainers like Frank Schilling or Rick Schwartz want you to believe, because it's their agenda. They want you to think so because they're only interested in increasing the value of their excellent .com portfolios. I can't blame them for doing so.

But the truth is that many people/companies in many countries around the world aren't nearly as completely obsessed with .com as some domainers seem to be.

I have nothing at all against .com, but I acknowledge that there's also a life outside .com and that other meaningful gTLDs/ccTLDs are doing very well.

According to Sedo themselves, the average price of .co.uk domain has risen 22% in the past 3 years while .com has fallen 18% over the same time period. This example (amongst many others) does prove my point.

 

[-REECE-]

I still distinctly remember prices reported in DN Journal even in today's rough economy being stronger than 2005 for dotcom...

Sure that's what top .com domainers like Frank Schilling or Rick Schwartz want you to believe, because it's their agenda. They want you to think so because they're only interested in increasing the value of their excellent .com portfolios. I can't blame them for doing so.

But the truth is that many people/companies in many countries around the world aren't nearly as completely obsessed with .com as some domainers seem to be.

I have nothing at all against .com, but I acknowledge that there's also a life outside .com and that other meaningful gTLDs/ccTLDs are doing very well.

According to Sedo themselves, the average price of .co.uk domain has risen 22% in the past 3 years while .com has fallen 18% over the same time period. This example (amongst many others) does prove my point.

 

[mjnels]

EYE DEE EN will save the world... Mo-Bee will unite it, and dot-EH-SHA will bring everlasting peace to all.

thats the final word on all this.

 

[michaeldotcom]

I still distinctly remember prices reported in DN Journal even in today's rough economy being stronger than 2005 for dotcom...

I guess you misunderstood my sentence.

Prices reported in DNJournal are only about big .com sales (over $2,000). Ron Jackson doesn't report any of the .com sales below $2,000.

When Sedo talk about average .com domain sales, they're talking about all their .com sales, whatever their amount, both over and under $2,000.

This shows what has been by others on NP and elsewhere. Excellent .com domains have been doing very well over the past years, but there are millions of crappy .com domains that are still selling for regfee or very low amounts, and lots of other .com domains that are dropped everyday.

DNJournal never even talks about all these very low .com sales.

Most of the .com domains are of very low quality (just have a look at the expired domain lists everyday or even at the appraisal section on NP).

As there are fewer domains registered in other extensions than in .com, it's relatively easier to get a great generic/geo/keyword in .co.uk or other meaningful gTLDs/ccTLDs.

Those great generics/geos/keywords in .co.uk, etc. are rising in value (just like those in .com). But there are far fewer crappy domains registered in .co.uk than in .com, because there are simply far fewer domains registered in these extensions than in .com.

That's why we see this difference between average prices that Sedo were talking about.

 

[-REECE-]

Ah. Thanks for elaborating

I guess you misunderstood my sentence.

Prices reported in DNJournal are only about big .com sales (over $2,000). Ron Jackson doesn't report any of the .com sales below $2,000.

When Sedo talk about average .com domain sales, they're talking about all their .com sales, whatever their amount, both over and under $2,000.

This shows what has been by others on NP and elsewhere. Excellent .com domains have been doing very well over the past years, but there are millions of crappy .com domains that are still selling for regfee or very low amounts, and lots of other .com domains that are dropped everyday.

DNJournal never even talks about all these very low .com sales.

Most of the .com domains are of very low quality (just have a look at the expired domain lists everyday or even at the appraisal section on NP).

As there are fewer domains registered in other extensions than in .com, it's relatively easier to get a great generic/geo/keyword in .co.uk or other meaningful gTLDs/ccTLDs.

Those great generics/geos/keywords in .co.uk, etc. are rising in value (just like those in .com). But there are far fewer crappy domains registered in .co.uk than in .com, because there are simply far fewer domains registered in these extensions than in .com.

That's why we see this difference between average prices that Sedo were talking about.

 

[Sufyan]

@michaeldotcom

Nice explanation. Tried adding rep but it says We're glad that you're fond of this member, but please give some rep points to some other members before giving it to michaeldotcom again. So I had to donate some NP$.

 

[Jeff]

WTF is the point of .mobi?

Bottom line ... an attempt by few mid-level marketing folks at a registry - aided by a handful of Usual Suspect™ domainer folks that reside at the top of this "pyramid scheme" - to hype and pump up a completely awkward, obsolete, and UNBRANDABLE extension for AS MUCH GREED MONEY as they can possibly get! :o :imho:

Of coure, this will - and has - adversely affected many good, decent folks and fellow members of our #1 Namepros! With this in mind, we should always strive for demanding the ANSWERS and providing an open balance of discussions for the #1 Community! :imho:

Caveat Emptor, friends.
-Jeff