news Thank You and Good Bye Afternic.com

[AbdulBasit.com]

Hello everyone,

I think this is the longest gap I’ve taken in between two posts but I’m sure this will come as a surprise to many of my fellow domain investors that I’m leaving Afternic.com

As many of my readers know that since January 2020, I’ve been using Afternic.com price request lander. It’s been almost 6 years using them and I had an overall great experience. With all the challenges and ups and downs including economic crisis and uncertainty in global market due to wars, I still had many extra ordinary months with the help of Afternic team. It was really nice working with so many Afternic brokers and especially my rep Adam Ramsdell who did all his best he could to get the maximum sales out of my portfolio. I sincerely appreciate Adam and the entire team whoever was involved in getting the sales happen smoothly.

There are two main reasons for leaving Afternic:

1. I’m no longer interested in paying any commission.
2. Like the way I opted Afternic from Uniregistry, now I would like to prefer handling and managing the portfolio and leads myself.

Overall, it’s been a rollercoaster ride with a lot of inconsistencies which I believe is part of the business especially domain investing. It took a lot of time to think and decide about this decision but I believe now is the right time to go and move onto the next level of my domaining journey.

Currently I’m in the process of trying something new and I’ll share more details in my next post, so stay tuned.

Thank you!

 

[boker]

So from Abduls own website, Last 2 sales reports:

September 2024

There were a total of 21 sales.

4 was partner registrar sale.
11 sales via GoDaddy search path.
6 sales via Afternic lander.

August 2024

There were a total of 12 sales.

1 was partner registrar sale.
6 sales via GoDaddy search path.
5 sales via Afternic lander


I make that 71% Reg Path Sales for September 2024 and 58% Reg Path Sales August 2024.

Which is inline with what I posted before about Reg path/Sales Lander split.

So, based on this Abdul will loose over 50% of his sales, no?
I wonder how Abdul knows exactly what sales came from godaddy search, I can"t remember afternic letting you know that a certain sale came from lander or godaddy search.
Just an example, his sale from september 2024, with 'empire' keyword. If you act like a buyer and type 'empire' keyword into to godaddy search tab, you will get tons of ntlds with 'empire' but very few or none premium empire something .com, like empirehome or empiremedia, both listed on godaddy. So, you are saying that a buyer looking for a certain domain will type the domain into godaddy search tab and not going directly to the lander? If this was true, dan.com and sedo could have not survived one day. I guess that if you are using godaddy landers, they will count them as godaddy path, for 70% extra sales, 99% of is would be using godaddy, unfortunately that doesn't work.

 

[DomainThrive]

So, you are saying that a buyer looking for a certain domain will type the domain into godaddy search tab and not going directly to the lander? If this was true, dan.com and sedo could have not survived one day. I guess that if you are using godaddy landers, they will count them as godaddy path, for 70% extra sales, 99% of is would be using godaddy, unfortunately that doesn't work.

The buyer comes from the channels provided in Abduls reports.

Go and check his other sales reports if you want you will see it follows a similar pattern.

It doesn't matter what you want to believe this the factual sales data breakdown he provided on his own website about where the sales come from.

You are still doing mental gymnastics to try and make it fit what you want to believe when the facts right there in front of you.

 

[boker]

No I am not saying that. The buyer comes from the channels provided in Abduls reports.

Go and check his other sales reports if you want you will see it follows a similar pattern.

It doesn't matter what you want to believe this the factual sales data breakdown he provided on his own website about where the sales come from.

You are still doing mental gymnastics to try and make it fit what you want to believe when the facts right there in front of you.

The only facts is what I'm experiencing myself and what can be argumented. I've done this experiment ti change to gadaddy/afternic nameservers for couple of months a few times without even 10% increase in sale, that's a fact. Some of these experiments were done even years before you start selling domains, so I'm not talking about dreams.

 

[DomainThrive]

The only facts is what I'm experiencing myself and what can be argumented. I've done this experiment ti change to gadaddy/afternic nameservers for couple of months a few times without even 10% increase in sale, that's a fact. Some of these experiments were done even years before you start selling domains, so I'm not talking about dreams.

Oh really, tell me how long I have been selling domains o wise one.

And your experience trumps, Abduls, Nikuls, Mine and all of Godaddys data does it.

 

[boker]

Oh really, tell me how long I have been selling domains o wise one.

And your experience trumps, Abduls, Nikuls, Mine and all of Godaddys data does it.

Nobody talks about Abdul or Nikul, they have a proven sales record, I can't remember even one of yours. I remember attacking dan.com for 2% extra and kissing godaddy feets for every occasion. I have done over 2k transfers and reported hundreds of sales over the years, I just wait for you to do the same and not just dream about 70% extra sales.

 

[DomainThrive]

Nobody talks about Abdul or Nikul, they have a proven sales record, I can't remember even one of yours. I remember attacking dan.com for 2% extra and kissing godaddy feets for every occasion. I have done over 2k transfers and reported hundreds of sales over the years, I just wait for you to do the same and not just dream about 70% extra sales.

You don't remember that. You just went trawling through my post history looking for something to try and find to discredit me because you cant argue against literal facts.

You also don't need to include my data. Abduls, Nikuls and Godaddy should be more than enough.
Don't bother communicating with me further and I wont you.

 

[Jannes]

 

[alcy]

ladies

plz

we is all friends here

to calm your mind read savitri by aurobindo

or someting by anton szandor

 

[boker]

You don't remember that. You just went trawling through my post history looking for something to try and find to discredit me because you cant argue against literal facts.

You also don't need to include my data. Abduls, Nikuls and Godaddy should be more than enough.
Don't bother communicating with me further and I wont you.

Yes, you made so many sales that they are the ultimate secret. Thats why you were asking a few months ago who used other nameservers, not godaddy, because of your years of experience? But you are experienced enough to give advices to everybody how good is godaddy.

 

[johnn]

No one is perfect including any registrar and don't let your personal emotions involve in your business.
Just list your names for sale everywhere you can. You need to expand your market not to shrink it.
As long as the name is sold, commission is just an expense of running business.

Why limit your market just because you don't like the commission? No one is working for free.

 

[boker]

No one is perfect including any registrar and don't let your personal emotions involve in your business.
Just list your names for sale everywhere you can. You need to expand your market not to shrink it.
As long as the name is sold, commission is just an expense of running business.

Why limit your market just because you don't like the commission? No one is working for free.

I agree with this, but I would add 30% extra on top of the landing price, to cover for commissions and lost time and leads. Who really wants to use a certain registrar, they can pay their fee. If I would be in Abdul's place, I would still use sedo and godaddy l, but at different price tag. Probably he wants something exclusive, so that buyers can't have other choices just to use his landings. Probably, if this will work out for him, this is the moment when another "undeveloped' style marketplace is born.

 

[dncafe]

People are giving too much credit to the landing page. There are a ton of low commission landing pages out there, it's not hard to find one. It's also not hard to create your own landing page that looks exactly like your favorite landing page and integrate your own payment gateway into it.

None of these landing page services, like Efty for example, will give your domain any extra exposure.

For mid level domains selling in the $X,XXX range, these are often found by people/companies brainstorming names and typing them into a registrar to see availability. They're not typing each idea/domain into their browser to see if theres a site on it. That's why it's so important to have your names on Afternic, because they will get your name to show up on that other registrar someone is searching for names on.

For premium names selling in the high $XX,XXX this is less important, as companies are specifically looking for that exact name and have the budget for it. But for 2 word names and names selling in the $X,XXX range, it is critical to sales to be on the Afternic partner network

I'm not a fan of GoDaddy or Afternic, but let's at least acknowledge the importance of using their network, as no other marketplace comes close to them when it comes to cross registrar exposure

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

So, based on this Abdul will loose over 50% of his sales, no?

Nope.

Our research and data shows that most buyers will type the domain into their browser if it does not show as available in the registration path. Those "reg path" sales will mostly transfer to the lander.

@AbdulBasit.com is about to be another data point that proves this to be true.

Looking forward to reading the results!

 

[JB Lions]

Our research and data shows that most buyers will type the domain into their browser if it does not show as available in the registration path. Those "reg path" sales will mostly transfer to the lander.

Where are those at?

 

[biggie]

as no other marketplace comes close to them when it comes to cross registrar exposure

Hi

my experience says sedo is very close.
their mls has reach too

imo….

 

[AbdulBasit.com]

Nope.

Our research and data shows that most buyers will type the domain into their browser if it does not show as available in the registration path. Those "reg path" sales will mostly transfer to the lander.

@AbdulBasit.com is about to be another data point that proves this to be true.

Looking forward to reading the results!

Thanks for sharing the valuable information.
I'm sure going to share the results in the coming months.

 

[tradenameNet]

I was told in a call with Afternic that most of my sales are from register path...There is a subscription to the statistics not sure worth it or not. I have not subscribed it...

So abdul is going to market his domains through DomainsWeb.com or through efty.com?

As long as you can market your names, SEO, out bound, etc.... you will be doing fine without GD.

I am also using atom whitelable site, not sure how much traffic I have brought from my own atom whitelable web site...(With AI, you can create your own site easily these days).

 

[AbdulBasit.com]

I was told in a call with Afternic that most of my sales are from register path...There is a subscription to the statistics not sure worth it or not. I have not subscribed it...

So abdul is going to market his domains through DomainsWeb.com or through efty.com?

As long as you can market your names, SEO, out bound, etc.... you will be doing fine without GD.

I am also using atom whitelable site, not sure how much traffic I have brought from my own atom whitelable web site...(With AI, you can create your own site easily these days).

Oh well, asking $$ for the stats/lead report!

I'm going to sell my domains via lander and someone approaching via WHOIS. DomainsWeb.com is not updated so no sales is coming through that.

 

[tradenameNet]

Oh well, asking $$ for the stats/lead report!

I'm going to sell my domains via lander and someone approaching via WHOIS. DomainsWeb.com is not updated so no sales is coming through that.

Thanks Abdul, I got you you are going to sell through landers page, which is your domain name.... Then the key is to drive traffic to your domain name/lander page..... like SEO, links, social media, etc.... For 11,000 domains, you can market through 11,000 web sites, by google search, or AI LLM model, social media....

 

[JB Lions]

Oh well, asking $$ for the stats/lead report!

I'm going to sell my domains via lander and someone approaching via WHOIS. DomainsWeb.com is not updated so no sales is coming through that.

Have you checked/tested to see if inquiries are coming thru? I just tried a few of mine and not getting anything. Tried another landing page, Giant Panda and it came thru instantly. I also put in a Price Request for a domain that you have, that I actually like, to see if it goes thru.