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Hello everyone,

I think this is the longest gap I’ve taken in between two posts but I’m sure this will come as a surprise to many of my fellow domain investors that I’m leaving Afternic.com

As many of my readers know that since January 2020, I’ve been using Afternic.com price request lander. It’s been almost 6 years using them and I had an overall great experience. With all the challenges and ups and downs including economic crisis and uncertainty in global market due to wars, I still had many extra ordinary months with the help of Afternic team. It was really nice working with so many Afternic brokers and especially my rep Adam Ramsdell who did all his best he could to get the maximum sales out of my portfolio. I sincerely appreciate Adam and the entire team whoever was involved in getting the sales happen smoothly.

There are two main reasons for leaving Afternic:

  1. I’m no longer interested in paying any commission.
  2. Like the way I opted Afternic from Uniregistry, now I would like to prefer handling and managing the portfolio and leads myself.
Overall, it’s been a rollercoaster ride with a lot of inconsistencies which I believe is part of the business especially domain investing. It took a lot of time to think and decide about this decision but I believe now is the right time to go and move onto the next level of my domaining journey.

Currently I’m in the process of trying something new and I’ll share more details in my next post, so stay tuned.

Thank you!
 
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Ah, you're using Efty it looks like.

It's what I use for names not eligible for Fast Transfer yet/adult names. I have some at Bodis/Giant Panda but it's really not worth it, so moving those to Efty landers as well. Right now, waiting to get approved by Mango for payments for Efty Pay
 
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Unfortunately, no other marketplace has the partner network and reach as big as Afternic.

The best move for most is to use a low commission landing page and also list your names on Afternic, usually at a higher price to compensate for the higher commissions
 
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Hello everyone,

I think this is the longest gap I’ve taken in between two posts but I’m sure this will come as a surprise to many of my fellow domain investors that I’m leaving Afternic.com

As many of my readers know that since January 2020, I’ve been using Afternic.com price request lander. It’s been almost 6 years using them and I had an overall great experience. With all the challenges and ups and downs including economic crisis and uncertainty in global market due to wars, I still had many extra ordinary months with the help of Afternic team. It was really nice working with so many Afternic brokers and especially my rep Adam Ramsdell who did all his best he could to get the maximum sales out of my portfolio. I sincerely appreciate Adam and the entire team whoever was involved in getting the sales happen smoothly.

There are two main reasons for leaving Afternic:

  1. I’m no longer interested in paying any commission.
  2. Like the way I opted Afternic from Uniregistry, now I would like to prefer handling and managing the portfolio and leads myself.
Overall, it’s been a rollercoaster ride with a lot of inconsistencies which I believe is part of the business especially domain investing. It took a lot of time to think and decide about this decision but I believe now is the right time to go and move onto the next level of my domaining journey.

Currently I’m in the process of trying something new and I’ll share more details in my next post, so stay tuned.

Thank you!
Wow, reading your post really highlights the depth of your journey in the domain investing world — 18 years on NamePros is no small feat!

It’s remarkable to see how you’ve navigated the ups and downs of the domain market, from economic crises to global uncertainties, and still managed to achieve extraordinary months with the support of Afternic and its brokers. Your acknowledgment of the Afternic team, especially Adam Ramsdell, really shows the value of strong partnerships and professional relationships in this business. It’s clear that their efforts played a significant role in maximizing your portfolio’s performance over the past six years.

I completely understand your decision to move away from Afternic now. Commission-free management and handling your own leads is a natural evolution for someone with your experience and knowledge. Taking full control allows for more flexibility and personalization in how you manage your domains, which is something many seasoned investors eventually pursue.

Your reflection on the inconsistencies and rollercoaster nature of domain investing resonates deeply — this is a business where patience, strategy, and persistence truly define long-term success. The fact that you’ve taken the time to think through this decision carefully speaks volumes about your approach and professionalism.

I’m genuinely excited to see what new paths you’re exploring next. Your willingness to adapt, innovate, and move to the next level after years of experience is inspiring for all of us in the domain community. Looking forward to your next post and learning more about your upcoming ventures!
 
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I've never sold one domain on Afternic as well as never selling anything on Namepros. I attribute the no sales on Namepros from members hating me, Afternic from being cursed by the Domain Gods. No it's not me, it's you!
 
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best of luck! breakups are always hard we get attached even if it's to a corp

always remember, companies rarely care about things that most are willing to ignore and continue to feed their bottom line. it takes a mass movement often made of little steps such as yours.
 
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Thank you @AbdulBasit.com

@GoDaddy --

Losing a Top Seller who was featured on your blog last year is significant.

Will Afternic reevaluate the commission structure, the external-NS punishment, and the Boost program that appear to have contributed to his departure?

Sure, you can kill Dan.com and clone Atom on your new Ultra Premium site. But unless you fix the core issues sellers complain about, you'll continue to drive sellers away.
 
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Looks like your domains have started using EftyDNS, so it’s Efty, I guess.
 
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I agree with sentiment of some and as sellers we need max exposure

now even more as sales are down for years. Dare I say for most and not just for many

key points to take away here are...

there is no such thing as too much exposure

an remains the best exposure especially with bins

to reduce fees while retain exposure use bodis or np landers to get lead at 5%

I'm guessing op isn't saying he removing names from an network... and all this chaos is just about lander

which is ok.

but as pros here let's all be sure to not confuse newbies to think an is all bad and have no listings there.

landers vs listings are 2 different things.

well it would be nice to know for op what ratio of lander vs nonlander an sales he made
but this info is probably not possible to compile
 
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I agree with sentiment of some and as sellers we need max exposure

now even more as sales are down for years. Dare I say for most and not just for many

key points to take away here are...

there is no such thing as too much exposure

an remains the best exposure especially with bins

to reduce fees while retain exposure use bodis or np landers to get lead at 5%

I'm guessing op isn't saying he removing names from an network... and all this chaos is just about lander

which is ok.

but as pros here let's all be sure to not confuse newbies to think an is all bad and have no listings there.

landers vs listings are 2 different things.

well it would be nice to know for op what ratio of lander vs nonlander an sales he made
but this info is probably not possible to compile
To make things clear, I've removed all the domains from the Afternic and Sedo distribution network so I will have sales via WHOIS or through lander.
 
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Will Afternic reevaluate the commission structure, the external-NS punishment, and the Boost program that appear to have contributed to his departure?
GoDaddy laughs at your sense making! Puny human!
 
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To c

To make things clear, I've removed all the domains from the Afternic and Sedo distribution network so I will have sales via WHOIS or through lander.

in that case it is my humble view your decision is an awful one and I utmost strongly urge all people newbie or not to copy your process as u have just reduced your odds of sales by imo a good 90+%

cheers
 
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in that case it is my humble view your decision is an awful one and I utmost strongly urge all people newbie or not to copy your process.

cheers
I'm always sharing my experience and don't force or ask anyone to try the same methodology what I'm practicing. Domainers are intelligent enough to decide for their portfolios.
 
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I'm always sharing my experience and don't force or ask anyone to try the same methodology what I'm practicing. Domainers are intelligent enough to decide for their portfolios.

that goes with no say.

as u share experience rest of us and I share our views.

I said I fully disagree with such actions while also fully respecting them.

it is nobody biz but yours how u sell names

to me this is a blatant instant destruction of some 90% of your future sales and offers.

this should not be followed.
 
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that goes with no say.

as u share experience rest of us and I share our views.

I said I fully disagree with such actions while also fully respecting them.

it is nobody biz but yours how u sell names

to me this is a blatant instant destruction of some 90% of your future sales and offers.

this should not be followed.
Fine. Time will tell and I'll be sharing my experience how it goes no matter how good or bad (according to you) will happen.
 
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in that case it is my humble view your decision is an awful one and I utmost strongly urge all people newbie or not to copy your process as u have just reduced your odds of sales by imo a good 90+%

cheers
I'm always sharing my experience and don't force or ask anyone to try the same methodology what I'm practicing. Domainers are intelligent enough to decide for their portfolios.
This is a most important exchange between @alcy and @AbdulBasit.com, in my opinion.

One size does not fit all — and it’s both responsible and necessary to point that out.
 
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Majority of my domain name sales over 23+ years have not been from Afternic/Sedo as I've never pointed my domain names there the majority of time. Not saying I haven't made crazy sales at the high commission markets $8 into 16k multiple times, $8 into 50k etc... but that's more from me knowing domain values and being firm on my prices until the stars align so those prices would have have happened at any venue as I'm generally firm which is helped by 2 things... knowing who the buyer is instead of anonymous offers and not needing the 💰or pretending I don't need the cash. :ROFL:

Most of my sales have been direct to my own domain sales sites or my own domain sales landers without having an actual site over the decades.

I like where we're at right now....

NamePros =- Few tweaks and ya can make their pages pretty trustworthy looking at 0% commission and basically route the payment anywhere. Wire direct to my own business bank acccount, Escrow.com to my domain brokerage account, AtomPay etc...

SpaceShip =- Nice clean pages, 5% commission, LTO

Atom White Label = Promote your own sales site, standard listings only 7.5% commission, LTO

Even though anonymous offers have never been my thing I will say Sedo has always been very professional with me over many years and I've literally had ACH hit the bank multiple times day after a push.

Afternic has frustrated me more over the years than Sedo but Afternic has also produced more income so. Afternic has a strong MLS network and they also are into LTO unlike Sedo which I think in this economy is important so I do tend to lean to LTO providers.

Options are good as it eliminates the giants from getting lazy. Don't like something ya can easily try something else. At the end of the day doesn't matter what works for me, Abdul etc... numbers don't lie so run your own tests and follow the numbers whether that turns out to be NamePros, SpaceShip, Atom, Efty, or old school Sedo or Afternic, everyone has different domains which may perform better or worse on different venues.

I'll be curious to see how this one pans out for ya as this year has me testing NamePros, Atom, Efty, etc...

@NameGroove

https://www.namepros.com/threads/mega-list-of-landers.1337766/#post-9275704
 
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Majority of my domain name sales over 23+ years have not been from Afternic/Sedo as I've never pointed my domain names there the majority of time. Not saying I haven't made crazy sales at the high commission markets $8 into 16k multiple times, $8 into 50k etc... but that's more from me knowing domain values and being firm on my prices until the stars align so those prices would have have happened at any venue as I'm generally firm which is helped by 2 things... knowing who the buyer is instead of anonymous offers and not needing the 💰or pretending I don't need the cash. :ROFL:

Most of my sales have been direct to my own domain sales sites or my own domain sales landers without having an actual site over the decades.

I like where we're at right now....

NamePros =- Few tweaks and ya can make their pages pretty trustworthy looking at 0% commission and basically route the payment anywhere. Wire direct to my own business bank acccount, Escrow.com to my domain brokerage account, AtomPay etc...

SpaceShip =- Nice clean pages, 5% commission, LTO

Atom White Label = Promote your own sales site, standard listings only 7.5% commission, LTO

Even though anonymous offers have never been my thing I will say Sedo has always been very professional with me over many years and I've literally had ACH hit the bank multiple times day after a push.

Afternic has frustrated me more over the years than Sedo but Afternic has also produced more income so. Afternic has a strong MLS network and they also are into LTO unlike Sedo which I think in this economy is important so I do tend to lean to LTO providers.

Options are good as it eliminates the giants from getting lazy. Don't like something ya can easily try something else. At the end of the day doesn't matter what works for me, Abdul etc... numbers don't lie so run your own tests and follow the numbers whether that turns out to be NamePros, SpaceShip, Atom, Efty, or old school Sedo or Afternic, everyone has different domains which may perform better or worse on different venues.

I'll be curious to see how this one pans out for ya as this year has me testing NamePros, Atom, Efty, etc...

@NameGroove

https://www.namepros.com/threads/mega-list-of-landers.1337766/#post-9275704
I highly appreciate you taking time and sharing your experience in details which is very nice to know.
 
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