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Shill Bidding on NP

Labeled as status-resolved in NamePros Comments and Feedback started by johnn, Mar 15, 2019.

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  1. johnn

    johnn Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I made a bid $210 for a LLLL.com name and the auction supposed to end at 8:00am this morning with the BIN is $299.
    The OP created an account at 7:03am and posted "$299 claim" in order to avoid to sell to me at $210.

    I reported the suspicious post and the thread is closed now.

    Does the OP supposed to sell the name to me at $210?
    His account should be banned instead of restricted.
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/removed.1127056/page-2#post-7147281
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2019
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  2. urlurl

    urlurl Top Member VIP

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    the mods would be able to confirm if there were correspondents via PM for the bin sale
     
  3. alcy

    alcy Top Member VIP

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    he should sell of course. but... there is nothing you can do if he won't. just give him bad biz warning.

    however in case of shill bidding like here.. it shouldn't be bad biz warning.. but account suspension imo. for both accounts of course. of which one is already gone I think.
     
  4. johnn

    johnn Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Mod confirmed the second account is the same IP address as the OP IP.
     
  5. Furquah

    Furquah Skipper VIP

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    I don't think you are going to get that name, ..

    Removed.
     
  6. johnn

    johnn Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I am not much concerned about the name but the crook needed to be gone from this community.

    He should be banned.
     
  7. urlurl

    urlurl Top Member VIP

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    as i see it, the OP delivers the name or gets banned
     
  8. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hmm... OP should be banned if true.

    Brad
     
  9. Grilled

    Grilled Top Member VIP

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    Where do you see the restriction?

    The newly created account was auto-closed.

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    Yet the seller doesn't appear to have any public indication of a restriction or a bad business trade review.

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    ...

    Sorry to see this happen. And thanks for reporting.

    It's up to the community to report these instances both to mods, and also via trade reviews. The more info in the trade review, the better community is informed.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
  10. EbookLover

    EbookLover Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Ethically speaking, yes. But regardless of any rules set forth in the forum, there is no true legal binding of bids and offers here.

    Ah, well. These people are all over. Best to go into a bid with the idea that you're not going to get it IMHO.
     
  11. infosec3

    infosec3 Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    I’m not too sure about that. Not an attorney here, but as far as I can see, electronic messages with offers and bids seem to constitute a legally binding agreement. A formal written contact is not the only type of agreement that exists.

    https://www.dbllaw.com/can-emails-messages-constitute-legally-binding-agreement/
     
  12. EbookLover

    EbookLover Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Yeah, but the cost of pursuing it isn't really worth it. We can say all day long that there is a legally binding contract. That only goes as far as your wallet.
     
  13. Mister Funsky

    Mister Funsky Top Member VIP

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    Yes, an offer was made, accepted and consideration was a part but enforcing it is the problem.
     
  14. Eric Lyon

    Eric Lyon Member Services, NamePros Super Moderator PRO Gold Account VIP Trusted Contest Holder

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    For clarification, the sellers account is banned from the marketplace for security reasons and was done so at the time of the listing closure. However, since the member used the Custom Title feature (Making it the default title) that comes with a gold account, the "Restricted" title is not showing.

    Shill bidding is a very serious matter. The duplicate account was closed by a moderator and the original account was restricted from the marketplace for security reasons, as per our policy.

    If you need anything else regarding this resolved matter, please contact support.
     
  15. gotasale

    gotasale Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Actually the auction was about to close at my highest bid of 155$ when the seller suddenly removed the name and closed the thread

    I notified admin , so they force him to reopen it and time was extended

    Former moderator member just came in to bid and auction become active again but the seller put a reserve at 699$

    I notified admin again , reserve removed

    I was willing to pay more than 210$ but I lost interest in the domain and I was curious to know what is going on

    Lastly shill bidding and account not banned !

    For me I would like only to put a negative feedback and move on
     
  16. karmaco

    karmaco Top Member VIP

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    He even left himself fake positive feedback for the transaction. 😳
     

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