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[Elad n]

See you around guys, i wont be using this platform anymore since they shut my mouth and removed my avatar.

They say its not professional so the PROFESSIONAL thing to do is to ask them to close my account.

Good luck you all!

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Moderator response:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7754873/

Important questions:

• https://www.namepros.com/posts/7749064/

 

[equity78]

Another point that I think is relevant to why people are flipping their lid.

I am sure Eric, Amanda, Paul, Brian Harbin, Edward Zeiden and every other mod has seen a post by Elad N, why did they not ask for a change before this one member made a complaint?

 

[JB Lions]

NP seems to be saying they want to make a change, so I was offering my opinion within that understanding.

Which doesn't make much sense wanting to go against a 71-2 vote. It's pretty rare you get that kind of agreement around here. This should be a simple thing.

 

[Joe N]

Which doesn't make much sense wanting to go against a 71-2 vote.

I think we need to stop referencing this poll. The question, as it was presented, has no bearing on the real issue or discussion.

The fact that Elad's avatar was not offensive has nothing to do with NP wanting to create a more professional feel in the forum.

 

[JB Lions]

I think we need to stop referencing this poll. The question, as it was presented, has no bearing on the real issue or discussion.

The fact that Elad's avatar was not offensive has nothing to do with NP wanting to create a more professional feel in the forum.

Actually it is, it's what the thread/poll is about. It's literally in the screenshot. Changing avatar rules won't make this place more professional, it'll just make it bland. And probably loss of members when you get that uptight. There are other, real things you can do if that's the goal.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

why did they not ask for a change before this one member made a complaint?

A couple potential reasons come to mind:

1. We are looking at so many things each day that unless a report tells us to focus on something and think about it, we rarely have time to do so.
   • It could be thought of like banner blindness.
2. Some moderators may not think it is unprofessional.

 

[Joe N]

Actually it is, it's what the thread/poll is about. It's literally in the screenshot.

The question is:

Namepros forced me to change my avatar - Do you find it or me disturbing

The mod never told Elad he (or his avatar) was disturbing. He was told it was unprofessional.

The other issue - Elad posted this poll after ignoring the mod's request, not after complying with it.

So what you're really saying is, if any member thinks that they will have the community's backing, go ahead and ignore the mods.

 

[JB Lions]

The question is:

Namepros forced me to change my avatar - Do you find it or me disturbing

The mod never told Elad he (or his avatar) was disturbing. He was told it was unprofessional.

The other issue - Elad posted this poll after ignoring the mod's request, not after complying with it.

So what you're really saying is, if any member thinks that they will have the community's backing, go ahead and ignore the mods.

I said what I said already, go reread it. They overreacted. But NP mentioned "community moderation" which never really has been clearly defined. Is this an example of it? The community thinks you overreacted. You can fix that.

 

[Joe N]

There are other, real things you can do if that's the goal.

I agree with that. And at least here we're being told that NP is open to those discussions. So let's have them.

 

[Joe N]

I said what I said already, go reread it. They overreacted.

They overreacted. And then Elad overreacted. And then there was no opportunity to undo anything.

We need to stop blaming. It's not productive.

 

[JB Lions]

They overreacted. And then Elad overreacted. And then there was no opportunity to undo anything.

We need to stop blaming. It's not productive.

Again, you keep posting stuff that doesn't make any sense, you're literally repeating it. They can do stuff anytime they want. They could have 11 pages ago.

 

[Joe N]

Again, you keep posting stuff that doesn't make any sense, you're literally repeating it. They can do stuff anytime they want. They could have 11 pages ago.

As a parent, I get where the mod is coming from.

In the heat of the moment, I'll tell my kids to do (or stop doing) something. If they freak out and ignore me, there's no way I'm going to apologize to them (even if I think I overreacted). If they do what I ask, and I think on it later and realize I was in the wrong, I'll tell them.

NP members are the kids in this analogy, like it or not.

 

[Recons.Com]

As a parent, I get where the mod is coming from.

In the heat of the moment, I'll tell my kids to do (or stop doing) something. If they freak out and ignore me, there's no way I'm going to apologize to them (even if I think I overreacted). If they do what I ask, and I think on it later and realize I was in the wrong, I'll tell them.

NP members are the kids in this analogy, like it or not.

I start feeling like you are one of the collective called "Team Bravo".

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated".

You all were bosses to us, now it is clarified that we should view y'all as our parents.

Get it. Thanks.

 

[Joe N]

I start feeling like you are one of the collective called "Team Bravo".

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated".

You all were bosses to us, now it is clarified that we should view y'all as our parents.

Get it. Thanks.

I think some people just have trouble accepting authority. The mods are the authority on the forum. Someone has to be, right?

When you're the authority, you're listened to first, and then you discuss later. Parenting 101. It goes for basically all situations where someone makes the rules and someone follows them.

 

[Recons.Com]

PS I find your analogy calling all 70+ people and others that posted here as being unruly kids that don't understand what is best for them literally more unprofessional and/or disturbing than Elad's avatar ever could have. We are all mature adults here. It is just a pity that very reasonable and logical thing that we all are conveying is falling on deaf ears (figuratively).

 

[Joe N]

PS I find your analogy calling all 70+ people and others that posted here as being unruly kids that don't understand what is best for them literally more unprofessional and/or disturbing than Elad's avatar ever could have. We are all mature adults here. It is just a pity that very reasonable and logical thing that we all are conveying is falling on deaf ears (figuratively).

Well now you're putting words in my mouth. I was just using an analogy to make a point.

So you think the mod should reverse his decision. Does that mean you're okay with a member ignoring a request from a mod?

 

[Recons.Com]

I think some people just have trouble accepting authority. The mods are the authority on the forum. Someone has to be, right?

When you're the authority, you're listened to first, and then you discuss later. Parenting 101. It goes for basically all situations where someone makes the rules and someone follows them.

This is not a church, you are not a preacher on Sunday sermon. Any authority is not automatically from God. We use our own judgement and if the authority is unfair we use something called freedom of speech. If the authority here has problem here, we just leave.

 

[Joe N]

If the authority here has problem here, we just leave.

Yes! Exactly. That is the freedom we all have. They make the rules. We follow them or leave.

 

[Recons.Com]

Well now you're putting words in my mouth. I was just using an analogy to make a point.

So you think the mod should reverse his decision. Does that mean you're okay with a member ignoring a request from a mod?

If mod's request is not warranted by the rules and/or common sense, then it should be ignored. We made it clear that the rules don't cover this. 70+ voters also made it clear that it is not warranted by common sense either.

 

[Joe N]

If mod's request is not warranted by the rules and/or common sense, then it should be ignored. We made it clear that the rules don't cover this. 70+ voters also made it clear that it is not warranted by common sense either.

So anytime a member feels like a mod's requests aren't in line with the rules, the member should just ignore the mods...

You don't think that sets a bad precedent?

 

[Recons.Com]

Yes! Exactly. That is the freedom we all have. They make the rules. We follow them or leave.

Leaving is not an easy decision. This thread is clear illustration that there are dozens of conscious caring users that would rather first try to reason. But, yes, if the outcome is boss/parent analogies and insisting on the wrong decision, that will be the outcome...