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For the benefit and edification of all who will ponder the move, I chose to make this public.

Most of you know me, as I've been here since perhaps the 2nd year of NP's existence. I've been a moderator/section leader for quite some time, too. I have over 100 positive TR's and am one of the few who have Achieved Greatness. And for good measure, I'll add that I moderate eleven forums here. I am a writer by trade (I am the editor of the in-hiatus namepros.com newsletter) but, as a favor to Rachel James (aka NPQueen), I joined the NP team. Those were such great days. NP was doing outstanding & people came here daily to learn the tricks of the trade and sell a domain or two. I still converse with her and her husband, Ron (aka RJ) at times. The staff here was tremendous. Michelle and Wendy were powerhouses. RJ kept things in order. And, let’s face it, everyone loved seeing the Queen in the chatroom. Things were great.

But just like every shattered dream, nothing ever lasts forever.

Things started falling apart here no long ago. All told, Ron sold NP, his baby, to someone who was going to make NP better. Yeah, traffic was decreasing a bit, among other things, and the most practical way to keep NP alive was to sell it to an entity that could stop the bleeding. I do not blame RJ for selling. He did what was best for the site. And I will not criticize Matt, the buyer of NP. Yet I do find myself questioning & here I am today, typing this out as a way to not answer these questions but to cut loose the burden of having to question them in the first place.

We all have our hopes and dreams. One of my hopes was that Matt would pump life into this site, reinvigorating NP from the inside-out. Sadly, all that had been achieved was the descent and deterioration of all that Ron had made. The worst part? We were warned but ignored it completely.

Well, nearly everyone did, anyway. I was the lone exception. Who was the prophet who first brought the issue to light? Wendy.

Ya see, as communities such as NP grow ever so big, the prospect of keeping order is a requirement. Without order, you’ll have anarchy (or something as pointlessly worthless as GFY). NP was kind of the anti-GFY: This is a moderated community and the mods here actually TRY to help ppl. But yes, moderation is needed for the grand scheme of things to float. That cannot be debated. A person is smart; people are retarded, panicky, and self-destructive. People cannot self-moderate. That’s where mods (or police, in the physical world) come in. And yes, all forms of law enforcement are hated. The issue at hand here is not the prospect of moderation.

It’s over-moderation.

Let me ask a question: What constitutes as over-moderation? Surely, penalizing people for every little thing is bad. Sometimes, a reminder to the offender that he/she was in the wrong can solve the problem. Crucifying EVEYONE isn’t the way to go. By doing so, you would, in essence, be over-modding.

But is ALL moderating “over-modding”? I once had this to say about the departed Wendy:

“I do have to side with Wendy. She and I have spoken throughout the years & I see her points. She was a good moderator/authority figure. But that draws the ire of the public. No one likes breaking a rule & being punished for it. All of us mods go through with it: If we ignore something bad, the bad guy in the situation would get away with it & wouldn't have anything bad to say. BUT the moment he's caught with his hand in the cookie jar, there'll be a long rant by the bad guy, chastising the mod for what ultimately boils down to the bad guy getting an infraction. We are 'police' here @ NP. And when ppl do bad, they'll always have criticisms. Wendy's done a lot over the years, more than most of us had. And that being true, she's had the most criticism of us all.

I'm not saying Wendy being removed was a good or bad thing. I'm only saying here that Wendy was given a bad rep from users who've been disciplined by her & it snowballed into her image being shot up pretty badly. We've all gone through it. We've all made at least 1 enemy doing our job. Wendy, sadly, made a lotta enemies. It wasn't from the quality of her work. It was the fact that she DID her work and did it well. The good guys like her. The bad guys hate her.”

Yes, poor mis_chiff stepped away. Upon her departure, I considered doing the same, as all she spoke of really made sense. I tried, instead, to ignore matters & rather than leaving, I took up a few more forums, to help out NP. I tried to dismiss the regression, pretending that everything was going to work out in the end. A few weeks later and things are now even worse. Not only is Wendy gone but a lot of the class and style had left with her. Yes, the bad guys won: She was driven out by the naysayers and spammers and rule-breakers. Wendy is gone. And today, on May 20, 2012, my name shall be added along with hers.

Effective immediately, I resign from all staff positions here at namepros.com.

Ironically, Eric told me that management believed that I was “under stress” & removed me from several forums, to collect myself. He sent me this message awhile after I made this decision to step down from everything. It isn’t stress that had gotten to me: It’s that people suddenly have gotten otherwise blind or oblivious to the rules. Again, I am an exception. Sure, I’m not perfect. Who is? We all make mistakes. But since Matt took over, NP had only gotten worse--and I’m afraid it’ll never return to its glory. Hell, I’m thinking NP might fall completely at this rate. And this destruction is from mismanagement, not mods.

Nowadays, people can cuss a storm, be impolite, and provoke argument & we mods are powerless to stop it. Today alone, I had an issue. There was a post made that contained very belligerent language & provoked a lotta bad thoughts. Had RJ been here, that post would have stayed deleted. See, Eric saw the post & refused to delete it, opting to edit a few small things. I received a complaint & saw no reason to keep such a poor post, thus I deleted it. Eric then UN-DELETED it, telling me a load of rigmarole about free speech and whatnot. (He tried to justify things by telling me I called the poster retarded, thus what comes around, goes around; I in no way called the poster retarded but merely stated that he was acting retarded) IT BROKE A LONGSTANDING NP RULE! It was impolite, offensive, belligerent, and was posted in the hopes of causing turmoil. From the NP rules:

“Posts critical of NamePros policies, staff or moderation activity (such as post edits or deletions) will likely be removed, as well as posts attempting to stir unwelcome drama (such as "I'm Leaving" type posts). If you have problems with a moderator or feel you have not been treated fairly, please contact a NamePros Administrator through the private forum we have provided.”

This exact thread might be considered as “critical” though it is merely for constructive thought (there is much worse to be read in the “Suggestions” thread). Eric, I ask that you not delete this thread or edit it in any way. If others have opinions, they should voice them, as that is the intention of this thread, other than my announcement. It may help management prevent the bleeding further.

But yes, the post I removed was against ToS & I removed it. It was then re-added by a staff member who wanted to appease users. I’ve discussed it above and I’ll say it like this: We should NOT bend to the will of rule-breakers simply to keep them happy. I don’t. But many others here do. A month back, I deleted a thread with good reason & was beseeched to re-add it simply because the poster whined and cried about it & wanted it returned. I only re-added it to prevent further bad-taste in everyone’s mouth. I suppose I contradicted myself: I did succumb before. But I will not again, ever.

I’m done. I am tired of other people telling me how to do my job. And I did my job pretty damn well. But others wanted me to regress, to make the bad guys happy. No. Forget it. During the first few months I’ve been a mod, there was an incident where a remorse-seller gave me grief over a $600 deal. He had 100% no right to the name (he refused a refund a billion times) but I caved--to protect the sanctity of NP’s image. That was when Ron and Rachel were here. I liked them. I still do. And I respect the hell outta them. They did all they could to make NP a better community. I became a mod out of respect and loyalty to them. This new management is tearing at the gears that have kept NP running all these years. In April, NP lost a team leader. In May, NP had lost a section leader. I’m afraid to wonder what’ll come up missing next month.

Nevermore shall I moderate at this forum. Wendy was right. Namepros.com is going soft & will more than likely become a haven for chaos here in the near future. I’ll probably still be here, in one fashion or another, to watch it crumble down. When it does, I’ll sleep better at night knowing that there is no blood on my hands. This wasn’t my doing. I wish NP the very best, truly. I still love this site. But if I cannot do my job the way it’s supposed to be done, then I simply won’t do it, at all.
 
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I would happily join you and have a grumble about that one dna. We've had to move away from Google Analytics for all but our PPC tracking. :bah:
That wasn't DNA's topic - it was just my thoughts on what would be a good topic for discussion. It's not something that most people in the U.S. understand which will cause LOTS of potential problems in the future.

I'm all for the legislation's rationale because I hate behavioural ads.... and I hate data aggregation :)

It would be an interesing thread if people participated (I had a bit of a bumping of heads with Matt B. on this - but we I resolved to be grown up).

It has received NO FOCUS in the US at all relative to SOPA etc. and it's a HUGE deal.

Every "developer" needs to be aware of this.:hearts:
 
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It comes into effect next week here I believe. I'm waiting for the UK authorities to use a big company as an example before all the others follow suit.

A lot of webmasters are simply adopting a 'it won't be me' attitude - which is just asking for trouble :imho:
 
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When I check out my 'cp', a warning still pops up from back in 2010 where mis_chiff and I were somewhat at odds. It still irritates me that that pops up from 2 years ago, after it expires I think it should -poof- out of existence, instead of reminding me constantly of how irritated I felt. At the time I left np for a month or two and cooled down. In essence I was just irritated at what I felt was over moderation, like maybe someone was focussing on every freaking post I made.

But, I am drawn back to NP on a daily basis because I feel comfortable here. Within a half hour period I can participate in discussions ranging from politics to .com news to purchasing a top tier product .tv domain.

That feels like a community to me, and even though I may only be thought of as a fringe member, I do enjoy being here and contributing an opinion when I can.

Spats will occur, but time often allows for a chance to get a better perspective, and maybe the hot topics don't seem so doggone pressing anymore.

added.....: One last comment, I think that being a moderator of a forum is a bit like trying to officiate a high school basketball game in Indiana. You gotta have some seriously thick, goodyear styled skin on ya.
 
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That feels like a community to me, and even though I may only be thought of as a fringe member, I do enjoy being here and contributing an opinion when I can.

I don't think you're fringe.. :)

(you can minimize the box)
 
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When I check out my 'cp', a warning still pops up from back in 2010

Just sent you a Pm regarding that "pop up"
hopefully that will be resolved for you.

and PS: I don't know what a 'fringe member" is
but you have always been a contributing member to this forum. :hearts:
 
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Just think.. because of us you can know Skype grandchildren and that's priceless.

i also know I can look forward to cheap steak when I'm older which makes life worth living :)
Well, some helped me on the skype thing.
But yes, it is priceless to see and hear the grandkids on the computer.

Cheap steak is getting a bit rarer day by day!

And I have a jacket with fringe on it.
Does that make me a fringe member here?

(always, free speech is only free speech according to who is in power)
 
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Through time, this place had slowly lost that 'community' feeling. Not completely, no, but it just feels less these days. That's something I miss. I don't like coming here feeling like this is strictly a business forum. I think the absence of RJ & NPQueen kinda left a big hole in the forum.
 
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holy macaroni!

Because:

Survivor Thread
Cleveland Thread
Ron Paul Thread
Pissed off Penguin

The occasional interesting thread.
The occasional genuine question.

To see what bullshit Fonzie comes up with next.

The random craziness that happens here that amuses me occasionally.

To see what cloud, wallet, space, solar names people are registering because I'm curious.

The hope that LiquidCherry has changed his avatar.

Because I like hanging out with Briguy, Johname, Wendy, and a few others. I have a forum crush on Kate (j/k). Because it's nice to know Equity, NLP, Keith, Namenut, Twomoon (and others) are still around.

I don't do business here generally, I don't do domain buying and selling here. That's why a forum owner has a challenge. The goals of members are not the same. I like the odd appraisal request when it isn't "IGotsAShitsNames.biz"


And...

to see if the members or mods are winning the counting thread! (not really)

Finally.

What does my questioning post count have to do with "Why I am still here"?

You seem to think everything is hunky dory. I see a lot of the people that I used look for no longer posting. So when looking at post count - let's look beyond the counting thread.

Anything else you want to know? :hearts:

---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:17 PM ----------


But most updated/active


Said he who complained about Wendy and deleted posts and over modding than any single other member that I can think of :)

Done here anyway. This is the drama that unfolds with talk of leaving and why that was listed as something we shouldn't do (though I do it a lot, lol)

Congrats Randy - Best Wishes in Using Your Free Time more Effectively. Wendy recommends playing Bingo.

I am not playing in my turf for a couple days and this happens in my absence??

wow....have no nerve to compose a lengthy response/compilation about what i think (comes soon)but at least i fulfilled DU's wish (took way toooo long, i know lol)

cheers

liquid
 
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Haha.
If only most of you could see yourselves as others see you.

Anyway, I'll tell you what, though, Randy. I'll make this dead easy for you.

This forum means nothing to me. I could piddle around here chuckling at various things but really, it doesn't offer me anything and I can't envision myself being patient enough to out much back in to it. To you, Namepros is very clearly a huge big deal within the sphere of your life (surely, a rich life it is!).

If it will make you feel better, I will leave this forum, but only if you agree to re-assume your moderator position and continue doing your thing. You have luminaries such as WindyCity and Amenzel and DefaultUser and IowaDog and the rest of the "namepros crew" to guide and shepherd to the best of your robust moderating abilities, imparting your keen wisdom in that painfully overwritten style so common to 'ppl' trying to present themselves as something they'll never be...

Anyway, I digress. You say the word, big guy. Say you will become a Namepros moderator again if I leave, this is the last post I ever make on this forum. Gods honest truth. Really, it's only fair and it's win win. Namepros gets you back as a moderator, and it gets rid of someone like me who is mean and cranky and 'un-neighborly' and everyone can live happily ever after in 3d heaven.

You can let me know via PM, if you wish, and I will honor it.
Even if you say you want to take some time off but you promise you will one day return and be a moderator, I'll honor that and leave immediately.
Hell, you can say that you'd just be OPEN to one day becoming a mod again in theory, that's good enough for me.
Adios.
 
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If only most of you could see yourselves as others see you.
People have spelled out exactly how they see you so you're at an advantage when it comes to self-evaluation (or peer evaluation, even).

This forum means nothing to me.
Perhaps you should re-evaluate that. I'm pretty sure it grants you the anonymity and forum that you need to stroke your own ego.

Have you tried Twitter replacement therapy? It might work. You'd have "followers".

If it will make you feel better, I will leave this forum
Such conditional love! It's almost bring tears to my eyes.

You have luminaries such.. DefaultUser ..
Aw shucks!

wisdom in that painfully overwritten style so common to 'ppl' trying to present themselves as something they'll never be...
Mirror, Mirror, On the Wall
Who's the least self-aware of them all?

I leave, this is the last post I ever make on this forum. Gods honest truth. Really, it's only fair and it's win win.
Not sure what's the win-win. Randy doesn't want to moderate and you don't want to be here. It seems that you're actually suggesting a lose-lose (Randy moderating, you staying). That's just down-right confusing.


Who is mean and cranky and 'un-neighborly' and everyone can live happily ever after in 3d heaven.
These are not the words I would use but - if only you could see yourself as others see you.

Thanks for your contribution. :great:
 
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Dammit....

It is IOWADAWG!

Why do people get it wrong?
 
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I for one think Fonzie should stay, was against his getting banned the first time around as well.

His wit and sharp tongue notwithstanding, there is a lot of knowledge that is shared in his posts, if only you care to look below the sarcasm.

Not that he likes me, but that's fine too!
 
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Perhaps or perhaps you don't care about this forum, Fonz. Some ppl here do; some don't. You care about this forum just enough to spend a minute of your life posting in here. That's not much care but it's a care, regardless. It was mentioned that your proposal would be a lose/lose. Truly, it would be. I hope you aren't arrogant enough to think you are the reason or even A reason I stepped down. My move was contemplated for months. The catalyst wasn't you or your post. It was merely in management. I am not opposed to the idea of returning as a mod or even an admin. But at this time, in this present, I lack desire to remain on as a member of staff. As well, if you don't care about this forum, how would your absence be a win in the books? I suppose it wouldn't technically be a loss, either, so your proposal would be more of a lose/it-doesn't-matter.

You remind me of an old member we had here named Dongsman/Jaco. He was a bright guy with a load of insights yet he had this belief that Jesus Christ, God, an elf, WHOEVER made the universe solely for him to walk upon. Dongsman was not flat-out banned. He accumulated a lotta infractions & the scripts automatically banned him. If you wanna stay here, then stay here. But if you get 20 infraction points, well, use your imagination.
 
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I for one think Fonzie should stay, was against his getting banned the first time around as well.

His wit and sharp tongue notwithstanding, there is a lot of knowledge that is shared in his posts, if only you care to look below the sarcasm.

Not that he likes me, but that's fine too!

Yes Fonzie may have some knowledge and a sharp wit but as Maxwell Smart Agent 86 would say,
"If only he'd used his genius for niceness instead of evil."

Fonzie is an attention grabber and a troublemaker.
He has never started his own thread instead He hijacks other peoples threads and takes them into another direction, a direction away from the original subject.

He doesn't contribute anything positive, he is all negative all the time and has made it clear he hates NP and thinks it's a toilet bowl. His post are laced with hate.
Maybe he can be amusing at times but even with all his so called knowledge and sharp wit in the end it's just disruptive and gets him and the rest of us nowhere.

Fonzie is like a fart in the breeze, stinks for a while but then it finally goes away.

:)
 
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I hope you aren't arrogant enough to think you are the reason or even A reason I stepped down.

I absolutely was, yes. Denying the completely obvious truth only makes you look like an ass. Nobody wants to look like an ass.

I am not opposed to the idea of returning as a mod or even an admin.

That's all I needed to hear. I now leave Namepros to you and your ppl.

Have fun with it, manage it well. Please don't think I wish you any ill will personally. I do not.

*poof*
 
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That's all I needed to hear. I now leave Namepros to you and your ppl.

Have fun with it, manage it well. Please don't think I wish you any ill will personally. I do not.

*poof*

Bet he will be back, again and again.

Dammit.
 
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When a little kid says they're gonna slay a dragon, I smirk & say, "Of course you are!" Imagination is a great thing to have. That said, I'll smirk and let you believe that you are the reason I stepped down. I love looking like an ass. I'm a comedian at heart. But I'm a nice guy, too, thus I'll let you keep your belief. Yes, you're the reason I stepped down. And Santa & the Easter Bunny are perfectly real. And Pujols had never use a steroid in his life & plays on talent alone.

Good-bye.

I absolutely was, yes. Denying the completely obvious truth only makes you look like an ass. Nobody wants to look like an ass.



That's all I needed to hear. I now leave Namepros to you and your ppl.

Have fun with it, manage it well. Please don't think I wish you any ill will personally. I do not.

*poof*
 
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