Ready to Quit!

[Broker]

Have'nt been able to sell a domain in months and I'm getting very frustrated. Have sent out hundreds of emails to potential endusers and not one reply of interest. Meanwhile tons of very odd domains are being sold everyday for thousands. This business is not treating me well at all. I just dont know what gives or what I'm doing wrong. :yell:

 

[VURG]

People are more willing to boast about their success than admit their failures. Domaining is hard for a lot of people who wont talk. I respect you for being open about your struggles with domaining.

Rob, I'd advise you to assess your situation, compare the alternatives as to what you can do with your time and make a decision that you are proud to stick with. Comparing yourself to those who are successful is always depressing reguardless of whether it is domaining or something else. Don't stay in the past with the "what ifs". Look to your future.

I relate to some things I'm hearing. I am not good at developing and I also have been let down by people with similar work and see trusting others with developing as too risky. I have had very little success with approaching endusers and I don't bother with that approach.

I am not sure about my long term with domaining. At the moment I think I am moving towards treating it more of a hobby than an income opportunity and it's not an easy decision. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

 

[Porte]

Personally I feel you do not need great design skills to develop your websites and make money from them, content is more important. Unless you have very good domains, sales are unlikely to be regular.

++Bingo! Content = Traffic = Clicks = Revenue. It's indeed more important. and I got to agree with you there.

 

[Name Trader]

Personally, I think there are cycles of luck. The longest I've been without selling a domain is about 8 months. But then I sold about 12 domains in the next 4 months. Same modus operandi.

 

[domainer50]

Overpricing? Take a look at how your pricing things maybe thats your problem.

 

[Deaol]

Been a crappy month for me, last month was nice...

But then again, domaining isn't my job so I could careless if I make any sales.. the revenue on my domains pay the reg fee's + some so I haven't gone in the negative yet, just sitting back and waiting for the end user to come to me

Sounds kind of lazy.

 

[liquidcherry]

Hey Rob,

As a owner of several domains and never sold one so far (but i am eager to do), i can feel you...

I even had no chance so far to contact some enduser ......yeah, i admit it is sort of lazyness....

But......your name is Rob right?.....as a matter affect, right now i have rob.vg on sale...hit me if you are interested, (you could be my 1st prospect).... :hehe:

Cheers,

Frank

 

[xman]

In domain business patience is the key even though I treat domaining as a hobby.

 

[Broker]

Thanks for the replies and pm's. I have found a new inspiration through this thread and a pm I received

Love this place

 

[domainer50]

Thanks for the replies and pm's. I have found a new inspiration through this thread and a pm I received

Love this place

Have you thought about repricing your names?

 

[Broker]

Repricing my names? No, I have different price sets on each aftermarket with the exception of sedo where they are all set to make offer.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

You're not doing anything wrong!
It's all about interest. I bet if you post your domains for sale here you won't get more than reg fee for most of them.

If someone is interested in your domain, then he may be willing to pay grands for it even though others won't pay you $10 for it!

Domaining == luck (1st)
Domaining == experience (10th)
:imho:

This is about the most accurate statement I have ever heard about domaining. People at Namepros.com are wise, shrewd, stingy, tight, savvy, educated, and more! They know your domains are worth more, but aren't going to pay your anything near what it is worth.
They know you (any seller NP) needs money more than they do at the given moment (any buyer at NP). They know if they wait, you will break down, and nearly give away your domain, or at least sell it at a loss. :yell:

Frank (another tightwad)

Hey Rob,

As a owner of several domains and never sold one so far (but i am eager to do), i can feel you...

I even had no chance so far to contact some enduser ......yeah, i admit it is sort of lazyness....

But......your name is Rob right?.....as a matter affect, right now i have rob.vg on sale...hit me if you are interested, (you could be my 1st prospect).... :hehe:

Cheers,

Frank

Aw Frank... That's cold. Hitting up on man when he is down.... He wants to sell domains, not buy more!!! You have been banned from the Frank name!!


Frank The good one

not the below the belt Frank (you!) Ha!! :yell:

 

[Broker]

LOL, I'm not giving anything away. We all have our own thoughts on the value of our domains and I wont sell for less then that.

 

[-REECE-]

I've never had much luck selling names myself for high prices. Biggest sale this year was $600 I think. Still, sold several hundred for mid XX-low XXX. Reinvesting profits has proven to be far more profitable for me than hunting down endusers.

I wish you all the best Hasrob. As some have suggested, it may be best to treat it as a hobby for now. I still treat domaining as a hobby -- that's what makes it so fun I can do it when I want, for whatever amount of time I want, decide how much I make by the time I put in,...

 

[sashas]

Rob, why don't you trade some of your domains in for some more liquid names? Get some good LLLL.coms, LLL.net, LLL.info names. Good quality LLLL.coms are appreciating in value and you can make an easy 25% on investment in 3 months time. Liquid names are much better than brandable or keyword names in that they don't require much time or effort to sell; you always have ready buyers here at the forums

 

[Jeff]

Hi Rob!

I don't know the answer (there are no purely right or definitely wrong answers, as far as I can tell) ... but I'll share what has worked for me of late (partnered in the successful sale of an .ORG for $X,xxx (each), sales of two "Career" domains (one a .COM and one a .NET for mid $Xxx combined), and $500 with the sale of a local politician's .COM name domain): I completely trimmed my portfolio and concentration in dumping what I perceived to be dogs over the long-term (obviously considering the $ renewals fees and potential for payoff), I partnered with folks who knew more about the respective domain niches that served those domains than I, and I concentrated on super "Quick Sales" at the Wholesale level (most notably, .MOBI's (now entirely in the black in this category!)) and targeted marketings - yet short and to the point - to End users for better names, at least those in my perception! The rest I strategically forwarded to my other developed domains for additional traffic and marketing purposes, IMHO. :gl:
I think, at least for me, that less is more ... less domains / domain management / time etc. and renewal fees for more concentrated holdings and commitment to End user marketings! :talk:

Researching Google, Whois.sc, etc. for End users, and then contacting those End users consistently with reasonable Asking prices (no shame in lowering Asking prices in order to improve the close ratio, in my view), is my strategy going forward - .COM's and .ORG's, primarily! :yell: :imho:

Developing, of course, all the while ... :gl:
All the best,
-Jeff

 

[Broker]

Thanks Jeff, I hear what you say loud and clear my friend. I have found it hard to find a "partner" here. Someone I can trust and respect ya know? But mainly because those who I've asked are already busy with other projects and to be honest I dont bring much to the table. I have a few domains with great ideas for development I know would be profitable, but no funds, no design skills and no partner basically equals wish me luck.

Another problem I have is watching too much tv and coming up with domain names "I think" "Eventually" someone will want. Like tonight, I watched this show on private jets, jet charters and luxury business jets which has open seats people are able to jump in not only the seat but own shares etc. See netjets.com and skyjet.com (these guys had the right idea) And how luxury jet charters are the wave of the future getting away from all major airlines. So what did I come up with? Jetousine.com LOL Another $6.99 with coupon code down the drain? Maybe, but I like it

Thanks again gang

 

[networkmsia]

I started domaining a year ago with just $8. All I ever had was a laptop and internet connection.

With that $8, I registered tendersale(.)com and sold it to a member here for $60. Then I registered a couple more, and resold it for $30 here and there, and started making some very small sales ($60) at Sedo. Over the months I also made small sales of XX at other forums such as DP, and Sitepoint.

Then I got fed up of making small sales, and started putting all my eggs in 1 basket. I believe its much better to own 1 superb domain rather than to own 100 reg fee names.

Thus after 1 year, I now own domains like DBR(.)net.

The thing is, don't compare yourself to the big LUCKY full time domainer guys or else it does feel rather demotivating. But just keep on telling yourself you will be there someday. Just make sure that you are improving little by little each day.

Another thing about domains is, its not just buying, selling or developing. Doing just that will get you somewhere, but I believe its more than just that. You need some niche skills. I see some people are good at catching drop names, some are good at negotiating to end users, some are good at getting traffic names for parking, others are good at developing and placing affiliates codes with adsense.

Even in developing, there are many niche's. Some develop full fledge sites, some develop useful sites such as estibot, namebio. Some others develop blogs, some develop content sites and etc.

By the way, have you watch the video on my sig link ?

 

[NameCharger]

Yofie, sashas, Jeff all great posts! :tu:

People at Namepros.com are wise, shrewd, stingy, tight, savvy, educated, and more! They know your domains are worth more, but aren't going to pay your anything near what it is worth. They know you (any seller NP) needs money more than they do at the given moment (any buyer at NP). They know if they wait, you will break down, and nearly give away your domain, or at least sell it at a loss.

:hehe: I have been realizing this of late.

Another problem I have is watching too much tv and coming up with domain names "I think" "Eventually" someone will want.

The neverending compulsiveness of a domainer (while I was typing this post I checked to see if "compulsiveness" & "compulsivity" were available... no surprise both taken, checked whois to see if they were being tasted, they weren't)

 

[yesonline]

why you so hurry? just be more patience, it is not a short term lottery game that you buy a ticket today and ready to hit a jackpot tomorrow. I have never sent emails to other people to sell my domains, I just keep my domains parking and waiting, and there are always some big deals come to me every year, though only once a deal per year but it is enough to me.

 

[VURG]

Thanks for the replies and pm's. I have found a new inspiration through this thread and a pm I received

Love this place

Great to see the optimism. You get those down days every now and again.

Agreed. It is a great forum.