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Outbound process for beginners

Labeled as guide in Domain Selling and Domain Sales, started by rohitgoyal, Sep 20, 2018

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  1. rohitgoyal

    rohitgoyal Top Contributor VIP Gold Account

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    Let me try to answer your query...

    1. You haven't gone through the entire thread or else wont have asked this query. I have clearly mentioned that i haven't received any response for first 50 domains for which i did outbound and than 51st domain got sold.

    2. If you get offended so easily than i wont suggest you to get into outbound. You have no idea what kind of response you would receive from end users as and when you do receive response.

    3. End-user is not our employee , they would respond or wont respond as per their own desire.

    4. You haven't mentioned the domain name for which you did outbound than how the hell you expect others to answer why or whats do be done.

    5. Lastly outbound require lots of patience , planning and know-how. If you wanna learn the same or want others to help you out than you have to work on your communication skills.
     
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  2. YairDD

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    Thanks, I never get offended and I didn't get offended now. That guy who I quoted was very irreverent and just laughed at my question for no reason at all.

    This thread is here to help people with outbound, isn't it? that's the reason for why I commented.

    I know that End-user is not our employee amd I've gone through the entire thread, I was just wondering how was my email that I've sent to companies...

    And again, my communication skills is great, It's just I don't see any reason to be nice to someone who says and I quote "I'm afraid God won't be able to help here :xf.cry::xf.cry:"

    Thanks.
     
  3. rohitgoyal

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    All the best
     
  4. golan

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    This forum is full of greatest "directions & tips". It's worth read and learn them all rather than asking for spoonfeeding you. Hence the irony.
     
  5. YairDD

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    And if he said that at the beginning, this conversation wouldn't happen and I would've understood.
     
  6. rohitgoyal

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    He said exactly the same but you didn't understand the context... anyways you can read the entire thread once again and hopefully your query would be solved.
     
  7. YairDD

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    How can anyone understand the context of "I'm afraid God won't be able to help here :xf.cry::xf.cry:"?

    Cheers.
     
  8. Domains - Wanted

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    Well, to start off, lets clarify iconology... I was crying :xf.cry:, not laughing. FYI, this is laughing: :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: And this icon :facepalm:(the facepalm) symbolizes helplessness, despair. Irreverent? Well, now that you mention it, yes, I was being irreverent. Perfect word to describe your example outbound email, you'd posted.
    Fair enough. The help, as I understand it having spent a few years here, is to be frank and critical, not to pat newcomers on the back (or revere them), nor to spoonfeed them.
    Which brings us to the point very nicely. IMHO, your communicatiin skills are anything but! From starting off your sales letter disrespectfully with "Hey"... to your unprofessional signature, the tone of this great communication of yours makes me want to cry. There's nothing to laugh about here.

    No sense in my going into how to do this halfway properly. There's another one of Rohit's great threads kicking around here, one where he'd actually posted pretty good samples of outbound emails for different occasions and audiences (targets) (y)(y)
     
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  9. rohitgoyal

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    You have summarized it very well bro , i would not have done it better. When someone talks about being newbie and want to spoon fed , i simply remember the example of big shot ngo who ask you for donation to feed poor children but we all know how exactly fund are being used.
     
  10. MediaCode

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    For non-U.S. folks attempting to sell lower quality domain names like these at low, sub-$500 USD prices:

    Most American business people do not enjoy receiving unsolicited emails from people who are clearly not American. Regardless of the domain name being offered, most of the example email copy in this thread would quickly be dragged to the trash, deleted, and/or otherwise marked as spam simply because of the non-American English language and grammar used that sounds very awkward to an American business person. If you use too many British English spellings, stilted grammar or phrasing, or awkward punctuation and run-on sentences, your unsolicited email is dead on arrival. In short, the American business person is not going to trust you at all. Whether or not you think you are spamming, you surely read like a spammer to such an American. Say goodbye to your U.S. sales!

    Pro tip: Draft up the email templates you want to use for your outbound program. Then, hire a U.S.-based editor for $750 to $1,000 (an investment in your business!) or ask an educated, U.S.-born-and-raised friend (ideally, someone who works in sales or marketing in the U.S.) to edit or re-write entirely your draft email templates for you. Then, use those email templates in your outbound communications to American business people. Even if you sign off with a non-"American sounding" name in your signature (always have a complete signature to help build trust!), the well-crafted, American English should help you build more trust with the recipient and make more sales, at the margin.

    Until you do, more and more of your outbound emails will simply be deleted or manually flagged as SPAM and your business aimed at American companies will not grow.
     
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  11. Domains - Wanted

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    Call it racial profiling, language profiling, unfair profiling, but that's about the nuts and bolts of it! This is one of the best pieces of advice in this thread (y)

    Earlier here, I had already tried to explain the importance of employing native English as opposed to conversational, but broken English variety. People here seem to know better and then keep on posting, asking why no response to all those dozens or even hundreds of email they'd sent out (n)(n)

    Hopefully, this new voice will give you all much needed food for thought (y)

    Will you get results if you ignore this piece of advice? Sure, you will. But you could achieve so much better response rates if you take pains to craft a message in Native English, preferably Native American English...
     
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  12. ecomslice

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    The reality of our world , yes they are correct unfortunately, as for the slight argumentative discussions, this was a great thread, keep it that way, just a suggestion rohitgoyal , pay no mind and ignore the pointless posts. keep this thread as amazing and helpful as it started. and again thank you so much for your selfless input of energy.
     
  13. cpaking11

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    Hello Rohit,

    Thanks for the information this really gonna help me a lot to get started. One quick question, when you say buy geo domains does that means domains have city names in them? Like lasvegascasino.com or doctorsinnewyork.com? @rohitgoyal
     
  14. Hardheolar

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    They are both GEO domains
     
  15. TimoTheCoolKid

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    Any updates? Thanks.
     
  16. Qprodomain

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    Read from beginning to end , back to back great post, learnt a something worthy. BIG Thank to @rohitgoyal
     
  17. Lord Antares

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    Hey rohit,

    first of all I want to thank you for this post. Lots of useful info and just taking the time to help others for no benefit is greatly appreciated by the community.

    I have two important questions for you and it would mean a lot if you could answer them:

    1) Isn't sending unsolicited emails illegal? I've been reading up on it the past few days and it seems like it is. There are prescribed fines for doing this sort of thing and it seems that it is only legal to send mails to those who have agreed to receive them which obviously doesn't work in our case.

    Have you ever had trouble with this? Or do you think that this is more like pirating software where it's illegal but no one will really care? I would like to know this because

    2) I can and want to make a program which will automate outbound for me. It will be able to scrape emails from google by keywords and send bulk emails to them. This would take away the effort from doing outbound selling. The only reason everyone doesn't sell via outbound is because it is very tedious and painstaking and a lot of people just don't have the time or don't want to take the time to do it. With my bot, it would be easy and I know it could make me great profit in the long run.

    What I want to ask you is if you think this is a good idea. Do you think I would get in trouble for it? Do you think I would even be sanctioned?

    I see a lot of people do outbound and I haven't heard of a case where anyone has been reprimanded for it. What do you think? Thanks.
     
  18. rohitgoyal

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    Thanks for your input ... I completely agree with your suggestions...
     
  19. rohitgoyal

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    Thanks
     
  20. rohitgoyal

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    Both are Geo domains however city+service/product are more preferred.... Further singular version of service/product are more preferred. Though to e on safe side i purchase all the variations and it has worked well for me..
     
  21. rohitgoyal

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    Thanks for the feedback.... hope it was helpful
     
  22. geekjojo

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    How are you sending emails now? I have to buy a domain at Bigrock and I have to use the emails I get form there? Will this work if I have a cpanel hosting? Can I send emails inside from it?
     
  23. ecomslice

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    in my humble opinion dont use bigrock. start with zoho. and just add records to send from domain your marketing eachntime.
     
  24. topdom

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    Why add a signature to your outbound email. This is a hobby, not a business. Do my outbound emails work? No, but I didn't do it often, maybe did for 100 times in my whole life. I plan to send 100 emails per day without spamming. I prefer writing interesting, funny, eye catching, informative emails to writing boring and formal emails and pretending that I'm doing a bonafide business when obviously this is gambling.
    If I need to advertise a business to build trust, I would advertise the marketplace where the domain will be sold (but not in the signature). Maybe it would work better if potential buyers don't think I'm selling the domain, and instead informing them about a sale or a public auction event.
     
  25. creataweb

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    Put goofy memes in there, that'll work. Who doesn't love a good laugh? Except someone who just had surgery in the stomach region maybe.
     

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