discuss .O Discussion

[Armageddon]

Managed by independent members of the community OpenNIC
Any opinion
Right now are for reg. at Epik.com
I don't know if other registrar ofer for registration .O
Notice also already few of them sold on Namepros
Any idea how to be setup on/for VPN to add content ?
Personal i reg. few among them: Mexic.o, Tatto.o , Cong.o , Audi.o , Radi.o , SanFrancisc.o &
Toky.o - for 2021
Show here your registration & your opinion or any info

Kind regards,
Ovi

 

[dirk]

I am not as technically smart as probably almost everyone on this thread, but now the distinction by @Rob Monster to @Paul Buonopane question that it is separate from OpenNIC, but that Epik were evaluating whether to work with them, makes this seem really confusing to me.

I vaguely understand the rationale for a system of names outside ICANN and the standard DNS system. But it would seem to me hopelessly confusing that there is a .o that is OpenNIC and one that is Epik?

I am not saying that there is not a role for an entity like Epik to offer a smooth scaleable way to register and keep track of them, and use the existing resources of Epik to resolve them smoothly. Just that it needs to be really clear all the parameters to the buyer and user.

It seems to me that perhaps the thing to do is to not yet sell them, set up some sort of small beta trial, perhaps getting volunteers from NamePros, and then after all the things are sorted out launch them but in both registration, and when they are resold on your marketplace, clearly indicate that they are outside the standard domain ecosystem (whatever is the right term for them.... alternative ?).

I do appreciate you coming on and answering questions here, Rob.

Probably too simple minded, but just wanted to share my thoughts.

Bob

Amen

 

[LUP]

@Rob Monster You have to find someone who is better at explaining like you

 

[bmugford]

This is just another worthless, bogus "extension".

Anything that requires a special setup such as root servers, software, add-on extensions is largely useless.

Brad

 

[DaveX]

This is just another worthless, bogus "extension".

Anything that requires a special setup such as root servers, software, add-on extensions is largely useless.

Brad

Yes but what if there is a world war or corporate internet takeover? Or an alien space war?

 

[Samer]

of all the OpenNIC extensions, .o is my favorite

 

[private123]

Suddenly all .geek / .o price go $199 ( pre order )

 

[web3dev]

@Rob Monster
Can you please provide a link to any alt alt tld registered through Epik which has been developed or any one which have been developed by Epik (even a landing page) for trial?

 

[Samer]

@Rob Monster
Can you please provide a link to any alt alt tld registered through Epik which has been developed or any one which have been developed by Epik (even a landing page) for trial?

Very nice wikipedia page; lists all OpenNIC ext

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNIC

i stand what i said; .o is the best one out all

 

[web3dev]

Very nice wikipedia page; lists all Opennic exts

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNIC

That's not what I am looking for. Rob gave the list before. Unfortunately some of them does not work. As this is a .o discussion thread, I wanted to see a live page on a domain registered through Epik

 

[Paul]

Very nice wikipedia page; lists all OpenNIC ext

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNIC

i stand what i said; .o is the best one out all

This thread isn’t about OpenNIC’s .o, though. Rob has clarified that Epik’s .o is completely separate. Registering a .o domain at Epik won’t get you an OpenNIC .o domain.

 

[web3dev]

This thread isn’t about OpenNIC’s .o, though. Rob has clarified that Epik’s .o is completely separate. Registering a .o domain at Epik won’t get you an OpenNIC .o domain.

That's more worrisome. Is Epik the Registry or the Registrar of the .O domain?

 

[Paul]

That's more worrisome. Is Epik the Registry or the Registrar of the .O domain?

At the moment, I don't believe there's a distinction.

 

[DaveX]

At the moment, I don't believe there's a distinction.

Do you own any of these Paul? What's your take on these?

 

[cipcip]

Suddenly all .geek / .o price go $199 ( pre order )
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Same result here.
@Rob Monster is this a precaution for people not to register those by mistake?

Thanks,
Cristian

 

[55Domains]

I had registered quite a few of these and sold them on to someone else open to the vision here at namepros. @Rob Monster helping out along the way, including Crypt.o and a few other top names.

We currently have Micr.o Metr.o Phot.o Prom.o and Vide.o Left.

Aswell as some others in a dif extension such as e.eth and x.eth, If or if not the domains are or become to be worth anything largely depends on the adoption of the way to access the domains and the overall need for complete privacy. If that becomes a thing, (and keep in mind that several cryptocurrencies have a 1B+ marketcap just based upon that promise, basically), then $2.99 is def worth it to acquire some of the best of these while available. Imo.

 

[web3dev]

Brief summary of the thread:

• Someone claiming to be a Country Manager at Epik.com opens an official thread for .O domain Managed by independent members of the community OpenNIC
• Some Member who registered single character .geek domains checked the OpenNIC wiki and found that OpenNIC does not allow less than three characters and contacted Epik.
• Epik cancels the domain and gives a refund, infact cancels another domain of same member suo moto.
• The CEO of Epik joins the discussion and clarifies that .O sold through Epik is not the same as the .o of OpenNIC
• Registration of all alt domains available at Epik set as backorder or Pre Order.
• There are several instances of .geek domains changing hands in the forum. Still not clear the .geek sold at Epik are the ones of OpenNIC or Epik's proprietary.

 

[Paul]

Do you own any of these Paul? What's your take on these?

It wouldn't be appropriate for me to offer opinions when there's no consensus. I was just looking for objective technical clarity.

 

[Arjun Oli]

Zero value due to alternative roots/name systems.

 

[web3dev]

Zero value due to alternative roots/name systems.

Can't say. The world is changing. Who knows, this can be the next thing. It only takes a significant number of users supporting the system.

 

[Shdwdrgn]

Hi folks, I wanted to jump in and clear up some misconceptions about OpenNIC that I've been reading in this thread. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask!

First off, to reiterate what has already been stated, domains from OpenNIC are NOT the same as domains from Epik. While we have had many discussions over the years about running OpenNIC more like a business it always falters because we will not charge for our domains (and as was already mentioned, alt-root domains have exactly zero monetary value and we aim to keep it that way). In general, OpenNIC has always been a learning project, where people come to understand the nuts&bolts of what makes the internet function. It gives everyone a chance to see how the various levels of DNS zones interoperate. More recently we have also gained a following of members who connect under ISPs with intentionally-broken DNS services that do not properly reply with NXDOMAIN or other errors (generally because the ISP uses mis-typed domains for their own monetary gain).

Using an alt-root does not require any sort of plugins or other software installations. You simply enter a couple of our DNS server IPs into your network setup and you are done. There may be some browser plugins available that let you access alt-roots without modifying your network setup, but that seems like the more difficult way to achieve the goal.

I've been with OpenNIC since 2002, and I think maybe I remember the issue with the .biz TLD conflicting with ICANN? That's ancient history though, and as a rule we now try to make sure we never have conflicting domains. When new TLDs are suggested, we do our research to make sure it's not something ICANN is considering or that another alt-root is already using. There was also mention of the fact that reg.for.free no longer resolves for registering OpenNIC domains -- which is because ICANN started using .free and we had to shut down ours. The .libre TLD was formed and all existing domains were moved to that one, again to avoid conflicts with the ICANN root zone. (The domain be.libre has taken the place of reg.for.free.) We do our best to ensure that our DNS servers always return legitimate information and follow the expected standards.

Another comment suggested that OpenNIC zones are not decentralized. We currently have 76 public DNS servers in 22 countries, all of which can resolve any of our TLDs and domains, and which also have pointers to the DNS servers of other alt-roots we peer with. Yes it is true that registrations are typically handled by individual servers, but in the case of the .o zone which is being discussed that registration takes place through github.

If anyone has an interest in the OpenNIC project, please see our website at opennic.org.