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Labeled as discuss in Domain Extensions, started by CreativeMedia.us, Apr 6, 2020

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  1. ikhub

    ikhub Top Contributor VIP

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    Okay, registered 123.geek from be.libre
    Seems need to renew every month.
    Will try to create something there.
    @Shdwdrgn hope you staying with us enriching about alt domains and OpenNIC. Why not create an official OpenNIC thread?
     
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  2. Shdwdrgn

    Shdwdrgn Established Member OpenNIC

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    I just found out about this board yesterday, and with the flurry of activity I haven't had time to do anything beyond write some responses. :) I'll see about starting a new thread once I have more time.

    The 1-month requirement and limitations on the number of domains that can be registered at once is there to weed out the numerous people who learn about OpenNIC, register a lot of domains, and never come back. You'll probably get another email in the next few days letting you know that your domain will expire soon, at which point you can renew it for a full year.
     
  3. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP

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    @Shdwdrgn

    With all due respect, OpenNIC looks like an academic project. Here is where we can agree, one way or another, Internet 2.0 is coming.

    Here is what Epik has assembled:

    - Registry platform capable of supporting any TLD
    - World class and award-winning Registrar platform
    - Domain Marketplaces (NameLiquidate and Epik)
    - Content Delivery Network (BitMitigate)
    - Denial of Service Mitigation (BitMitigate)
    - Autonomous System (AS34962)
    - IPv4 / IPv6 ranges as RIPE member
    - Intermediate Root Certificate Authority (DNEncrypt)
    - Anycast DNS
    - VPN wit post-quantum encryption (Anonymize)


    In addition:

    - High availability Kubernetes hosting (CloudChase)
    - Decentralized and ultra low cost Toki servers running on Raspberry Pi 4 devices (coming this month)

    You can follow some of our other projects here:

    https://www.epik.com/about/labs/

    Our Alt TLDs are here:

    https://registrar.epik.com/prices/registration/alt

    For next TLDs introduced, we'll plan an orderly sunrise process that favors existing registrants of .com, .net, and .org, in that order, and with an emphasis on FOREVER domains, a topic I discussed here.

    To avoid confusion, we'll try not to trip over OpenNIC TLDs. No promises there.

    The names that we did register will continue to resolve across our network. We reserve the right to re-open those name spaces at a time of our choosing.

    Best of luck to you.
     
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  4. Big Mac

    Big Mac Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hello everyone. How are you? I think these "Alt TLDs" may present true internet land ownership. The idea that you or I can possibly own a TLD is something that eveyone needs to really take a hard look at.

    So, I did my little test to see if these alternative TLDs can possibly work. First, I opened up my chrome browser and added the "Blockchain DNS" extension. Then I proceeded to https://members.opennicproject.org/ to sign up as a new user. I signed up and was sent a confirmation link in my email. Clicked on the link in my email and I was confirmed. Next, I went to http://be.libre/ and signed in with my OpenNic username and password to register a free .Geek domain name. I registered 888.geek (it was available), set the nameservers to my webhosting company of choice, and probably had to wait less than 24 hours for the nameservers to resolve.

    Well, 888.geek is up and running using the "Blockchain DNS" extension on my Chrome browser. My site does not show up using the same extension for FireFox. By the way, it's a simple web page that says " 888.geek - coming soon..." To reach my website, you may have to type it in like this "http://888.geek/" You may have to include the forward slash at the end. However, now it seems like I don't have to include the foward slash at the end. I am still testing.

    Overall, it works for me so far. However, getting maintream adoption and having these "ALT TLDs" work on the mainstream internet is another issue. This must be hassle-free and frictionless for the global public outside of the domain name community to accept. I am going to do my best to educate myself on what could be again, true internet land ownership.

    Thank you for your time.
     
  5. Silentptnr

    Silentptnr Top Contributor VIP

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    My thoughts exactly. So glad you were able to set that up with relative ease. It seems possible that the process could be developed for even more ease of use.
     
  6. Steven McEvoy

    Steven McEvoy StevenMcEvoy.com VIP

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    The problem isnt setting it up, the problem is using it as a domain.... Nobody is going to add the extension to their browser to access your website.... Humans are lazy....

    The only way for alt TLDs to work is if the extension needed was already attached to browsers by default.
     
  7. Shdwdrgn

    Shdwdrgn Established Member OpenNIC

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    Just to clarify, normally you would change your local DNS settings to point to OpenNIC servers rather than installing a browser plugin. Then ALL of your software will recognize the alternate domains (including browsers, email, and other services). I'm honestly not sure who wrote that blockchain plugin or if it's still being maintained.
     
  8. Silentptnr

    Silentptnr Top Contributor VIP

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    That's what I'm thinking. A new browser.
     
  9. Steven McEvoy

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    Epik has everything else.... Whens the new Epik browser coming @Rob Monster
     
  10. Silentptnr

    Silentptnr Top Contributor VIP

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    LOL
     
  11. Jonathan Beadle

    Jonathan Beadle Established Member

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    Ive Got Nude.o If Anyone Is Interested.
     
  12. ikhub

    ikhub Top Contributor VIP

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    Who's nude do you posses? Epik's or OpenNIC's? :xf.smile::xf.wink:
     
  13. Jonathan Beadle

    Jonathan Beadle Established Member

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    :xf.grin:
    This Was An Impulse Purchase At Epik Bargain Bin.

    I Had No Idea These Do Not Resolve.
     
  14. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    Thanks for the clarifications (I learned a new term post-quantum:xf.smile:), but shouldn't .bit, .geek, .o and perhaps others in this pricing table (link below) be listed under the Alternative TLDs tab rather than the Generic TLDs tab? Or are you using the term Alternative only for Epik alternative domain spaces? @Rob Monster

    https://registrar.epik.com/prices/registration/gtld
     
  15. cyc

    cyc Established Member

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    Rob,

    Beside of all promotion in the thread, where's the real innovation of alternate roots?

    And, what OpenNIC can't do that Epik does?

    Also, i and/or the other members in the thread will be glad to learn if there's an extra value added by Epik to commerce it.

    Thanks.
     
  16. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP

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    See above:

    https://www.namepros.com/threads/o-official-discussion.1184322/page-8#post-7713450

    Also, if you want to test drive a Toki server for free, you will just need a $50 Raspberry Pi 4. PM @Arpit131 and we'll get you added to to the beta testing group.
     
  17. NameDeck

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  18. cyc

    cyc Established Member

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    Rob,

    This is not a proper answer to my question.

    Again, please read my post carefully.

    https://www.namepros.com/threads/o-official-discussion.1184322/page-8#post-7714344

    We talk about alternate root namespaces here, not about other stuff like CDN and/or Kubernetes hosting etc.

    What kind of value is being added or will be added to them for commercing?
     
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  19. Save Breach

    Save Breach Established Member

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    What I feel is these would never popularize and be viable, unless popular DNS servers start resolving these TLDs -
    https://dnslookup.online/ (you can check out how many popular DNS servers are actually resolving my domain encrypt.geek, not .o but something along that line, an opennic tld, Google DNS, followed by Cloudflare don't resolve it, no popular DNS support these TLDs yet, so future seems bleak)

    If at least one popular browser, like Opera provides native support (i.e. resolve these TLDs by default), it can get popular

    If you are someone from OpenNIC, I have few questions: how do you prevent your community members running Tier 2 DNS servers from snooping onto my DNS lookups, can I trust them?

    Your DNS servers are pathetically slow, and i can't even stream 144p videos, such is the latency/lag! Perhaps, unless you upgrade your infrastructure, these TLDs would remain unpopular.
     
  20. Pay.My.id

    Pay.My.id Top Contributor VIP

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    I have tested one of alt domain on different browser with additional plugin ,but still not working . Its really confusing in facts that domain registered at epik and opennic really different. I also check there is no browser that support ALT domain extension without additional complicated setting on our device.
     
  21. ikhub

    ikhub Top Contributor VIP

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    If you have registered from Epik, it is supposed to work on Anonymize.com VPN or Anonymize.com Secure DNS resolver or Through non existent partner APIs. If your domains (sic) don't resolve using them, head for a refund and apology from Epik.
    Just to check how it works, I registered 123.geek for free from openNIC and it works fine using Blockchain DNS plugin for chrome.
     
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  22. Ritesh Chauhan

    Ritesh Chauhan Top Contributor VIP

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    @Rob
    @Rob Monster @Pat8 Few days back, I have purchased one (ALT) domain from EPIK marketplace, and asked regarding non resolving DNS. I have already support ticket regarding that. Your support team told me that they found some issue resolving ALT domains, and if we face any troubles, then we will receive refund. Now, If that domain is not syncing with OpenNIC, then i will surely request refund. How can i request refund for that?
     
  23. Paul

    Paul CTO, NamePros CTO VIP

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    DNS has no impact on streaming speed because it has no involvement in streaming beyond finding the correct IP address. It's possible the streaming provider was relying on ECS, which some see as a privacy issue; there's a good chance the OpenNIC resolver you were using had ECS disabled. That might result in your device using a suboptimal IP address--but big streaming providers are most likely utilizing anycast rather than relying on ECS.

    You can't. Same issue with your ISP--or any other resolver. ISPs sell DNS data all the time.

    Just to clarify, this thread is about Epik's .o TLD, not OpenNIC's. They're separate, which caused quite a bit of confusion. @Rob Monster stated that to avoid confusion, Epik will stop offering conflicting TLDs for now, but existing domains will continue to resolve via Epik's VPN.
     
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  24. griff

    griff LVLS.com VIP

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    Unrelated to .o/this topic, but Opera for Android supports .crypto (Unstoppable Domains) without any config needed. Also Brave has/is adding support for .eth (ENS). I haven't seen any other cases yet
     
  25. Silentptnr

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