nGTLDs plateauing at 27-29million. Growth RATE has reduced by 90%

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  1. betthelot

    betthelot Active Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Now you are being ridiculous.
     
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    the only thing the new Gs can do better than .com/.net is dropping (and even that is doubtful)

    .xyz 5,934,876 -64,785
     
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    Over 6% coming deletes in next 30 days for xyz and this is before the cliff fall later this year.
     
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    .xyz is first in anything they do, they dominate the drops as well.
     
  5. NigelD

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    I'm sure .xyz will sort something out.
    Maybe 2 renewals for a cent, and a new reg thrown in for free :)
     
  6. MasterOfMyDomains

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    things are heating up. the profits aren't there and they are getting desperate.
     
  9. Akilina

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    When I look at ntldstats.com I see figures for Domains but also In Zonefile and I don’t understand why on some domains there are quite big differences.

    There are also figures for Upcoming Deletes. Is there a timescale for when these deletes will happen and is there a way of seeing which domain names are being dropped and when?

    Sorry it these are all too basic questions.
     
  10. Alessandro Couteau

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    I am still waiting for someone to show me they own a .christmas much less a .feedback ... Is this supposed to be a joke ? Hahaha

    Is someone literally scanning the Internet to find problems wrong with GTLDs and this is supposed to be the golden example, .feedback fraud ? Lol :)
     
  11. NigelD

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    I'm quite new to ntldstats.com as well Akilina. I've been looking at this site for some weeks and overall 'upcoming deletes' across all the extensions has been moving up and is now standing at 6%. I'm assuming that these 'upcoming deletes' are domains that haven't been renewed and are within, say, 30 days of being deleted. Now if you take a year and divide by 12 then you'll get something just over 8%. So if 6% of all extensions are in 'upcoming delete' mode it says to me that nearly 75% of all renewals are probably in 'upcoming delete' mode.

    If there are any statisticians out there - it would be good to see your take on this. It would also be good if ntldstats could provide the 'upcoming delete' figure alongside each registry in the main new gtld listing so we don't have to search out each registry to find this information. Some of the registries have very high upcoming delete figures i.e. .news 18% and others like .xyz are facing a massive cliff edge 4-5 months from now - having sold millions of domains at a cent starting June 2016.
     
  12. betthelot

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    On DNW its reported the new GTLDs registries are asking for a discount on the annual ICANN fees and for ICANN yes ICANN to fund a $3,000,000 marketing push of the newGTLDs.

    You can not give special help with marketing plus discounted prices and not offer the same to the legacy TLDs. Otherwise, ICANN does not remain independent and neutral.
    They knew the rules, what utter rubbish expecting someone else to do their marketing.
    It is not ICANN's job to sustain a nonviable business model
     
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  13. Alessandro Couteau

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    Of course not ...

    However when you invest $175,000 just for application sign up, you can guarantee there is a certain amount of backbone that cannot really be put into words ... ICANN will assist

    $3,000,000 ? Don't know, but they will assist in order to prevail their own business measures, which if you did not already guess, they are making a fortune off new applications ...

    Cheers
     
  14. NigelD

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    sounds like the ngtld registries are suffering - looking for anyway to halt the slide. Hope ICANN do not give them any preferential treatment.

    'Upcoming deletes' across all the new extensions are up to 6.26% on ntldstats today

    Just noticed the .run extension has 47.59% in 'upcoming deletes' mode today. Anyone seen higher than that with any new extension?
     
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    It would be more like 48% drops rather than 75% (assuming a fixed 6% non-renewal rate per month).

    Reason is, each month the 6% applies to a smaller amount of domains, so the drops are fewer than the previous month.
     
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    sounds like they are struggling to pay the bills. they could easily create a fund and fund the marketing themselves. they want ICANN to pay so they don't have to risk more money in a business model that might be flawed .. IMO
     
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    Yes sounds like real problems with a number of the registries.

    ICANN have posted up a copy of an email received from Paul Diaz, Chairman of Registries Stakeholder Group on 14 March asking for assistance from ICANN. In it he says that 'a number of Gtld operators are struggling...' and goes on to say '...Deferring action could reduce the diversity of registry operators in the marketplace if some new gTLD registry operators believe it is necessary to leave the industry. Waiting another two years before the round closes would only exacerbate that risk.'
     
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    1 .xyz 5,823,202 -75,174
    2 .top 4,190,642 -43,926
     
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    a few days ago I learned there is a TLD called .run.

    what is this good for? Who needs a .run? What does this even mean?

    there are many of these, we don't even know that they exist, no one does.
     
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    Hey I want my bailout check too :xf.smile:
     
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    It's utter carnage out their Kate. I think Sunset will become a new term.
    Have you noticed some newGTLDs have delayed their launch for so long, many examples but say .luxe over 2 years since being delegated. Can only mean that they now believe some of their strings aren't even worth launching and paying the ICANN annual fees, so will never see the light of day.
     
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    So what happens if some of these registries fail? - do you think ICANN might end up facing compensation claims from disgruntled investors and stranded business owners? If so they might need that pot of money.
     
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    There are continuity mechanisms in place so an extension is not going to vanish overnight.
    But it doesn't have to be maintained for more than 3 years.
    When you have been using a domain name for years, is a pain to migrate.
    You have to redo your SEO.
    You have to share your E-mail addresses again.

    Some end users had been using Centralnic addresses for 10+ years until they recently got notification they were to be retired. They are not happy today.

    At this point I think it's best to use new extensions only for temporary stuff, satellite sites, time-sensitive campaigns etc. Using them as primary domains is dangerous because some TLDs won't be around forever. Or their pricing will get downright extortionate.

    I actually wouldn't mind somebody suing Icann. Maybe the DOC should intervene again. In the past they already slapped Verisign on the wrist over price increases: http://domainincite.com/11156-breaking-verisign-loses-right-to-increase-com-prices, because Icann is in bed with Verisign and not willing to act in the interest of domain registrants.
     
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    http://domainincite.com/21632-feedback-gtld-in-breach-of-contract-after-big-brand-fraud-claims

    Gs in the news but unfortunately only negative news
     
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  25. Canadian

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    LOL "unfortunately"
    Most commenters here THRIVE on new gTLD negativity
     

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