new gtlds nGTLDs plateauing at 27-29million. Growth RATE has reduced by 90%

[betthelot]

nGTLDs plateauing at 27-29million. Growth RATE has reduced by 90% . 4million regged in first quarter 2016 but less than 300,000 in first two months of 2017.
Lots of free-minimum drops to come, rather than plateauing at 30 million could be the peak and down hill from here.
Clear winner .com and note .click over 60% of sites scanned were spam or harmful to your computer's health, this is the last refugee for many of these strings, even for Frank's vision.

 

[Embrand]

Godaddy says no more to Uniregistry

We have stopped registering or transferring Uniregistry domain names into our system. The dramatic price hike Uniregistry announced left us no choice. Until we can assess the impact on our current and potential customers, we have stopped new registrations.

GoDaddy works to deliver a great customer experience. We now have customers who will be paying up to 3,000 percent more for their renewal. That’s an extremely poor customer experience and does not reflect well on the domain name industry in general.

Wow, that is pretty much as strong a statement as you can make publicly about a peer.

 

[Arca]

The absolutely unflinching belief in NGTLDs some members maintain in the face of all these bad new G news coming out, bad numbers like this, unscrupulous registry practices, and that are accumulating together with a ton of other obstacles to new g success, came to mind when I read this quote today (in an article about cognitive dissonance):

“A man with a conviction is a hard man to change,” Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schacter wrote in When Prophecy [replace prophecy with NGTLDs] Fails, their 1957 [replace 1957 with 2017] book about this study. “Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point … Suppose that he is presented with evidence, unequivocal and undeniable evidence, that his belief is wrong: what will happen? The individual will frequently emerge, not only unshaken, but even more convinced of the truth of his beliefs than ever before.”

I'm not saying it is beyond certain that the new g's will fail. But the cards are really stacking up against them at this point, and the chance of success, especially for domain investors, is not looking good. Yet some new G supporters seem to believe new G's will bring them great financial returns and success soon. And here's another quote from the same article:

"In a famous study, Festinger and his colleagues embedded themselves with a doomsday prophet named Dorothy Martin and her cult of followers who believed that spacemen called the Guardians were coming to collect them in flying saucers, to save them from a coming flood. Needless to say, no spacemen (and no flood) ever came, but Martin just kept revising her predictions. Sure, the spacemen didn’t show up today, but they were sure to come tomorrow, and so on."

Couldn't help but seeing the connection again here. Two years ago, people were saying, the new G's have just been launched, two-three years later we will know whether the program was a success. Fast forward two years, and new G followers are now saying that we have to wait another two or three years before making any conclusion. Sure, the NGTLDs haven't been a success as of today, but they will surely be in two years, and so on...

Why do people do this?

"This doubling down in the face of conflicting evidence is a way of reducing the discomfort of dissonance, and is part of a set of behaviors known in the psychology literature as “motivated reasoning.” Motivated reasoning is how people convince themselves or remain convinced of what they want to believe—they seek out agreeable information and learn it more easily; and they avoid, ignore, devalue, forget, or argue against information that contradicts their beliefs."

(source: The Atlantic)

 

[dordomai]

Sure, the spacemen didn’t show up today, but they were sure to come tomorrow, and so on."

replace "Spacemen" with "buyers"

 

[NigelD]

I've been there with a share investment that I refused to believe was going bad - despite all the warnings, and obvious facts being laid before me, in fact I got sucked in more and lost a lot of money. Sometimes we need an experience like that - get it burned into your memory - should help you make better decisions in the future. It's hard to see where domainers can make real profits in gtlds. Some might get lucky here and there - there was a guy on a forum last year who said he had registered 30k .xyz domains at 1 cent each and sold one for $1800 - so made a profit of $1200. But how much time does it cost you to reg and administer 30,000 domains? and if they cost you just $1 at renewal that's a 10000% increase and $30000 renewal fee - what's Godaddy got to say about that sort of increase in percentage terms?

 

[dordomai]

I've been there with a share investment that I refused to believe was going bad - despite all the warnings, and obvious facts being laid before me, in fact I got sucked in more and lost a lot of money. Sometimes we need an experience like that - get it burned into your memory - should help you make better decisions in the future. It's hard to see where domainers can make real profits in gtlds. Some might get lucky here and there - there was a guy on a forum last year who said he had registered 30k .xyz domains at 1 cent each and sold one for $1800 - so made a profit of $1200. But how much time does it cost you to reg and administer 30,000 domains? and if they cost you just $1 at renewal that's a 10000% increase and $30000 renewal fee - what's Godaddy got to say about that sort of increase in percentage terms?

do the math 30k x 10= 300k in losses for 1 1.8k sale. The worst investment ever.

.xyz investors are not making money if they reg a name today, on average.

 

[namezest]

Hmm penny domains and dirt cheap registrations? The numbers are scewed by over 10 million registrations which I bet we will see dwindle in the coming months. 30k domains at one penny sell one for 1800 = 1500 profit from 300 spent btw..

The truth is the new extensions (for the most part) are aimed not at the general public? What does that tell you? It says they are aimed primarily at Who?

Spending too much time analysing anything via google is not a good idea, especially basing a business strategy from it. When did people stop thinking for themselves? These so called big boys setting up shop in tax havens before making bold moves? There is so much that could be said it will all unravel itself eventually. I will say what I said a few years ago ....

Blame icann? Well they have to take responsibility for their part in this, they took the money and ran. I said they were undenyably for profit (a few years ago) and then they proved it.
Looking from that perspective howcann (pun intended) anyone fail to see the real issues? The people registering domains certainly didn't hand over millions of dollars to create these extensions, but we all know who accepted millions. Numbers don't Lie? People behind them do though.

I think the reality is a few new extensions are actually winners, the bulk though? Garbage absolute garbage .fail?

Dot so what, we use these extensions as a tax right off then go bankrupt ???
The whole game stinks and has absolutely proved it's a pyramid scheme we all know who is up to what yet no one has the gumption to say anything?

There is a lot of smoke and mirrors and very little transparency, there has also been too much money involved to go unnoticed, yet I got laughed at for saying there would be a fed investigation?
Odd thing is though there now are federal investigations under way. (Actually were already going on before I mentioned it) We will see anyone and everyone involved denying everything as it usually plays out and those who are not ethical..... Well, they will be the first to make themselves appear squeaky clean but, someone will squeal eventually.

Honesty is the best policy.

 

[dordomai]

50k .xyz dropping today...

.xyz 6,081,599 -54,857

 

[jmcc]

Godaddy stopping handling new Uniregistry regs and inbound transfers.

http://domainnamewire.com/2017/03/13/godaddy-drops-uniregistry-domain-names-due-to-price-hike/

Other registrars might follow.

Regards...jmcc

 

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I've been there with a share investment that I refused to believe was going bad - despite all the warnings, and obvious facts being laid before me, in fact I got sucked in more and lost a lot of money. Sometimes we need an experience like that - get it burned into your memory - should help you make better decisions in the future. It's hard to see where domainers can make real profits in gtlds. Some might get lucky here and there - there was a guy on a forum last year who said he had registered 30k .xyz domains at 1 cent each and sold one for $1800 - so made a profit of $1200. But how much time does it cost you to reg and administer 30,000 domains? and if they cost you just $1 at renewal that's a 10000% increase and $30000 renewal fee - what's Godaddy got to say about that sort of increase in percentage terms?

The difference is the people who registered knew in advance the renewal fee prior to purchase.

 

[NigelD]

Fact is no-one knows the future renewal fees with the ngtlds. They could be anything in the future whatever anyone says at the moment.

 

[Kate]

The whole game stinks and has absolutely proved it's a pyramid scheme we all know who is up to what yet no one has the gumption to say anything?

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

It's never a soft ride ! You think climbing Mount Everest is easy ?

 

[betthelot]

Berkens today from The Domains announced he was deleting ALL his uniregistry's newGTLDs domains. 97 in total.

Vote of no confidence in all uniregistry's strings by Mike.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

Berkens today from The Domains announced he was deleting ALL his uniregistry's newGTLDs domains. 97 in total.

Vote of no confidence in all uniregistry's strings by Mike.

97 domains worth the news for sure

 

[betthelot]

97 domains worth the news for sure

If you followed Mike's involvement in the new gTLDs you would understand how news worthy it is.

 

[Traveler]

If you followed Mike's involvement in the new gTLDs you would understand how news worthy it is.

I really have not been paying attention to his involvement, can you expand on that please?

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

If you followed Mike's involvement in the new gTLDs you would understand how news worthy it is.

http://onlinedomain.com/2015/12/07/...michael-berkens-keep-adult-domains-new-gtlds/

http://domainnamewire.com/2015/12/0...erkens-worldwide-media-domain-name-portfolio/

The point @betthelot is 97 names or even 500 names is nothing to Mike,
Lol and he still owns a great portion of GTLDs which is far greater them 97, considering he sold 70,000 names to GoDaddy in 2015
...

 

[betthelot]

@alessandro-couteau @Traveler
Why it struck me as newsworthy is that he dropped all Uniregistry's strings irrespective if they were one of the 16 with price increases.
Giving the now uncertainty regarding renewal fees at uniregistry, Mike believes it makes their strings worthless as a domainer investment.
Mike was co founder of right of the dot which was a consultancy company for those applying for the new gTLDs.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

@alessandro-couteau @Traveler
Why it struck me as newsworthy is that he dropped all Uniregistry's strings irrespective if they were one of the 16 with price increases.
Giving the now uncertainty regarding renewal fees at uniregistry, Mike believes it makes their strings worthless as a domainer investment.
Mike was co founder of right of the dot which was a consultancy company for those applying for the new gTLDs.

No you're absolutely right but you're forgetting he owns more accounts then you can count on one hand of domains he holds privately or for safekeeping, the ones he doesn't want you or anyone to know if he is selling or holding ...

The fact Mike does not like Uniregistry, makes perfect sense ! And one Registrars' Greed (certain extensions) does not collapse a growing market

Mike has always maintained his integrity and professionalism as a domain investor and reseller ...
He does not like greed anymore then you or me ... And he made a choice which is respectable to any decent investor ... But on a final note, I also do not see him dropping his point of view on GTLDs, that of which is mysterious to all of us ...

 

[dordomai]

xyz 5,999,661 -81938

 

[GoKaizen]

"Just instructed HEXONET to set all 97 of my Uniregistry new gTLD strings to auto delete at the end of the current registration period"

-Mike Berkens

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedomains/status/841654476540899329

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

"Just instructed HEXONET to set all 97 of my Uniregistry new gTLD strings to auto delete at the end of the current registration period"

-Mike Berkens

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedomains/status/841654476540899329

We already discussed this

There's a momma tomato, a papa tomato, and there's a little kid tomato ... There all crossing the street and the little kid tomato is falling behind momma tomato and papa tomato ... Papa tomato screams, "Ketch Up"

 

[GoKaizen]

With the introduction of so many new domain extensions in recent years, businesses and orgs, as well as marketing teams, IP managers and technical administrators of domain portfolios are becoming immune to the messages new gTLDs are putting forth.

WebNames.ca

 

[betthelot]

WebNames.ca

NewGTLDs message is confusing and weak. Their is no compelling reason to invest in an URL that's an untested and unknown by the public.

 

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xyz 5,999,661 -81938

com/net -83,764