.mobi Next Traffic Submission Deadline Tomorrow

[Work In Progress]

Thought I would bring up a reminder here in Mobi-land to those who are considering submitting their mobi's to the next TRAFFIC auction in October. Submission deadline is August 1....

Although the last one didn't do too much for mobi (I feel many reserves were just too high), if you're sitting on some potentials, it might be worth your while to submit them. Their selection process seems a bit odd, but who knows? You might just hear :sold:

More info here Traffic Auction Info

Good Luck!

 

[Jeff]

Thanks for the link ... let's seriously hope for some No Reserve / $1.00 .MOBI auctions to get a true sense of the marketplace, IMHO. :yell: :talk:

-Jeff

 

[Work In Progress]

Thanks for the link ... let's seriously hope for some No Reserve / $1.00 .MOBI auctions to get a true sense of the marketplace, IMHO. :yell: :talk:

-Jeff

FYI, the TRAFFIC auctions all have a min reserve set by Moniker. Submitters can set their desired reserve anywhere above the minimum.

The NY Auction was my first submission and I did not realize this at the time.

 

[Jeff]

Thanks, I was not aware ... so is it possible for an owner/Seller to override the minimum "Reserve Price(s)" as set by Moniker? Also, I did not think of the commissions involved for Traffic and the auctioneer, either ... proll'y kinda tough to make lots of money on lots of $1, $5, and $10 sales, IMHO.

Appreciate the assistance.
-Jeff

 

[acc]

With the task Moniker has to pare down 80,000 submitted names into a just couple hundred for the live auction plus a couple thousand for the silent auction - it would be ridiculous and a waste of time for them to attract the kind of names that would draw bidders to $x-$xx auctions. And people who pay to attend the conference are generally bigger buyers of better names.

I think that the minimum acceptable bidding is $300. That's the price point of the least expensive completed sales from the NYC silent auction. NYC Moniker Auction Results

Why would anyone with a decent domain name risk possibly giving it away for next to nothing by using a no reserve or $1 reserve? It is pretty easy to suggest that awful tact when one is not taking the risk themselves.

As far as getting a "true sense of the marketplace" - a room full of domainers for three hours and a website displaying a group of names for one week is NOT THE ENTIRE marketplace. Not at all. It is but a slice of the marketplace at a slice in time. If no one walking by a window display at Tiffany's for one full one week stops to buy that diamond necklace on display, does that mean the marketplace values the necklace at $0? No, but the person that eventually buys the necklace for $xx,xxx becomes the only piece of the real marketplace that means anything.

Here's to the .mobi gems and their future! :kickass:

-acc

 

[Sameh]

Thanks for the reminder .. rep+

edit : When should i expect a reply ?

 

[Work In Progress]

Thanks for the reminder .. rep+

edit : When should i expect a reply ?

Good question....
Guess that depends on your rep. I actually submitted mine about a week ago. I heard nothing and followed up yesterday. Got a response back today asking me to "tweak" a couple of things and re-submit, along with sellers agreement. I did this right away and had confirmation in about 1 hour.

Now, the wait to see if any were accepted........and I expect a month or so shall pass until we find out who made this one!

 

[Jeff]

As far as getting a "true sense of the marketplace" - a room full of domainers for three hours and a website displaying a group of names for one week is NOT THE ENTIRE marketplace ...

Agree, and generally not having End users participating in the Traffic Shows that will hopefully acquire the .MOBI domains and then develop them into unique, stand-alone websites for mobile use is part of the larger problem of not suppprting and growing the "ecosystem" IMHO. :gl:
Domainers are pretty much the current marketplace, however ... :blink:

Thanks for the information regarding submissions, Reserve Prices, and the overall selection "process" and costs etc. ... very informative and greatly appreciated. I don't think, on third though, my $1 deals will work at the Traffic Shows! :red:
-Jeff

 

[duceman]

Just as an FYI, be sure to read Moniker's broker agreement. It has a couple of sneaky paragraphs.

TERM OF THE AGREEMENT: Seller grants Buyer/Seller Agent the exclusive right and authority to sell the Names for a period of one hundred and twenty 9120) calendar days from the date of declaring one of the ADDENDA to this Agreement ( the "Exclusive Sale Period"). The ADDENDA to this Agreement shall consist of, but are not limited to, those items submitted by seller and which are selected and authority to sell period will automatically renew at the end of each term unless DomainSystems is notified in writing within 15 days of expiration.

So put it on your G calender to send off the letter in 105 days

 

[acc]

Agree, and generally not having End users participating in the Traffic Shows that will hopefully acquire the .MOBI domains and then develop them into unique, stand-alone websites for mobile use is part of the larger problem of not supprting and growing the "ecosystem" IMHO. :gl:
Domainers are pretty much the current marketplace, however ...

The lack of end user buyers at all TRAFFIC shows means that most all of the domains in all extensions sold there go to your often mentioned "usual suspects". That fact should not be attempted to cast a negative reflection on the .mobi extension. A .mobi name sold at auction to a domainer is just as valid a transaction as a .com name sold to domainer. There are legions more of indoctrinated and ingrained dot-com/net/org-focused domainers who are seasoned "very usual suspects" so there are accordingly more .com/etc sales.

That is just the nature of the show - it is a domain industry show. I strongly believe that it would benefit all involved if at least some of these shows actively and vigorously promoted domains to business and industry. That was supposedly going to be part of the NYC conference but it seems to have been either not promoted enough or not deemed important enough to really follow through. It is also possible that these guys are not the right ones to take the industry to the next level.

Constantly stating an opinion that there exists some concrete larger problem of not supporting and growing the "ecosystem" does not make it a fact - it is just an opinion. The .mobi extension is being introduced, built out, and supported - not on your schedule - but on the schedule of those who are carrying the ball and those who are introduced to the concept, acknowledge it's potential, invest accordingly, and follow their own marketing and implementation schedules.

As far as the statement that "Domainers are pretty much the current marketplace" (for .mobi names) - one can only make that assumption by what they see or choose to see and believe. As mentioned on numerous previous postings by multiple .mobi owners in this forum, there are sales going on behind the scene to end users, developers, and domainers. The public will not hear about many end user sales due to NDAs and professional courtesy.

Also, a domain name acquired by a business today will not necessarily show up as a finished website or redirect tomorrow. Its use will be planned, built, implemented, and introduced on their own schedule to meet their marketing plan, budget, and resource allocation. One may believe what has been painstakingly explained to them by those who have actually sold names to end users and developers or they may choose not to believe. It doesn't really matter because sales to all kind of buyers have happened, are happening, and will continue to happen.

-acc

 

[Jeff]

Constantly stating an opinion that there exists some concrete larger problem of not supporting and growing the "ecosystem" does not make it a fact - it is just an opinion.

Agreed, and I've always stated that it's simply my opinion ... and I am very much worried for the "ecosystem", IMHO. Usual Suspect™ domainer "sales", as you've stated, at these Traffic Shows, by and large, do nothing to add to it (along with the (non) RFP's and (very few) actual documented End user acquisitions -with- subsequent development(s)) ... it's one year along now, and the build out of this critical "ecosystem" should be much farther along in my personal view. :gl:
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

Domainers are pretty much the current marketplace, however ... :blink:

well, DUH... in a world where this is STILL the case with .com, it is of course the case with .mobi, even more so.

BUT, i heard this crazy rumour that the money spends the same... whether you sell to a domainer or a compelling-unique-content-oriented-end-user... i coulda been lied to though.. you nevvvvver know.

i also heard this other crazy rumour that people are involved in domaining, first and foremost, to make money... can you believe that nonsense? its crazy crazy world out there.

 

[Jeff]

... or a compelling-unique-content-oriented-end-user ...

^ Classic! :D

... and, yes, your .MOBI Ecosystem™ needs much more of these (and quickly)! :yell: :imho:

Thanks for sharing.
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

^ Classic! :D

... and, yes, your .MOBI Ecosystem™ needs much more of these (and quickly)! :yell: :imho:

Thanks for sharing.
-Jeff

i dont own any .mobis.. i just like to hang around the sub-forum and comment from time to time.

 

[Jeff]

i dont own any .mobis.. i just like to hang around the sub-forum and comment from time to time.

I like to share my thoughts and opinions, too ... but at least I still own a few (and have successfully sold two here - $Xx's - in the Namepros .MOBI Marketplace™), IMHO. :music:

Reading the recent DNJ ... and speaking of Traffic Shows ... I'm hopeful, as ever, that both Mortgages.mobi and Roulette.mobi have unique plans for development for mobile use!
Does anyone know the Buyer(s) and their near-term plans? :gl: :talk:
-Jeff

 

[Sameh]

What about the reserve price ? like what is the minimum , should i add reserve for all domains , what is recent experience about the reserve price with T.R.R.A.F.I.C auctions ?

I asked them about reserve when i submitted my domains and i got the answer "You set the reserve price"

 

[Work In Progress]

$300 would be the minimum. anything you list under that would be "bumped" to $300 for a minimum...



I'm hoping to have some good news to report in the next week or two regarding the mobi sale I made at the NY auction. Just received and sent in what looks to be the final step at getting the :hehe:

I'll report it if / when it finalizes. Found out you need to be patient

 

[Sameh]

The current deadline for submissions is extended to this FRIDAY, August 3rd.

I got the confirmation of recieving my domain list , form etc..

also, i asked him "When should i expect reply about my confirmed domains ?" , And he replied in 2 minutes with

"Not for a little while.

We are finishing one auction and starting another one."

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I recieved this email from a few minutes.. i know that all of Moniker members do. but i would like to share with who interesting in submitting their domains to Next T.R.A.F.F.I.C auction ..

Hi Sameh,



As your Senior Account Representative it’s my duty to remind you that Friday is the last day to submit domains for the upcoming October T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Conference / Auction in Miami .



If you have submitted your names and received a conformation, I’d like to just share with you we will be having a great geography related domain auction this November!! Your submissions will roll over to this event for consideration, so you will not have to do a thing!



Details on these events is here: http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/index.html



We expect this next T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Conference / Auction in Octobers to be another high quality and high dollar record setting event. If possible we highly recommend that you attend. Here is the link: www.targetedtraffic.com .



There is no cost to submitting your domains for consideration. The current deadline for submissions is extended to this FRIDAY, August 3rd. Here are the links to download the instructions and the two forms.



General Instructions – A must read: http://mmect.com/SellingDomainsThroughMoniker_DL.doc
Domain Submission Form: http://mmect.com/MonikerOctoberTRAFFICAuctionSubmissionForm_DL.xls
Standard Moniker Agreement: http://mmect.com/MonikerStandardListingAgreement2007_DL.doc