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frank-germany

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let me share my results from my yesterday outbound with you:

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1 answered: "how much?"

1 answered: "No thanks. Would you be interested acquiring iamadomainsquatter.com? "
(No match for "IAMADOMAINSQUATTER.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: 2018-04-07T05:45:48Z <<<)


1 answered:
"Thanks for the email, we don't really need another domain, but I see the evaluation is ~$850, so can give you $450.00 for it, would that work?"


any suggestions how to react?
 
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1-2 sales/week (outbound only)

What is the typical end price range after negotiations?
Do you include price or say "please reply back if you are interested"?
Do you call them too to make 1-2 sales week, do you include your phone number?

Thanks for the answers.
 
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This pitch sounds very very spammy to me. I mean, no offense, but it's word to word copy of tons of junk offers i delete every morning from my spam boxes. I doubt you can sell anything with such text, even if you have real gem.
results = data
how many replys
how many sales per 100 emails

Just took a look at my outreach on hunter, Actually impressed! So with my “spammy pitch” I got 34 open emails out of 75 sent (some had had errors however from an invalid email) some have a good amount of views, and a couple replies. No sale but it makes me feel much better about outbounding. Didn’t realize I was getting so many to read it (even if it is just a quick glimpse)
 
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Just took a look at my outreach on hunter, Actually impressed! So with my “spammy pitch” I got 34 open emails out of 75 sent (some had had errors however from an invalid email) some have a good amount of views, and a couple replies. No sale but it makes me feel much better about outbounding. Didn’t realize I was getting so many to read it (even if it is just a quick glimpse)

the replies is all that counts
after open rate tells you it was not send to spam

what is the reply rate
what is the reply
and most importantly
what is your answer???
 
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What is the typical end price range after negotiations?
Do you include price or say "please reply back if you are interested"?
Do you call them too to make 1-2 sales week, do you include your phone number?

Thanks for the answers.

Average sales price is between $400/$500 (UK Names)
I always include a price that's realistic and one that I would be happy to sell (taking into account some small negociations)
No, never call unless they ask, and don't include a phone number.
 
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Care to share some of these? Cause i get tons of spam but never word for word like you say this is.

Hi!

I noticed you are the owner of xxx Just letting you know that xxx is now on sale, let us know if you are interested and we will get back to you.
If you are not interested, have a nice day and sorry to bother you about this.

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Hi!

xxx is looking for a new owner :) and you can secure it through our company. Just let us know and we will get back to you with the details.
I would be happy to hear from you!
 
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I stopped doing outbound sales this week.
Potential Buyers just willing to pay at least $500 for each domains.
So if you have more junks that need to be sold, doing out bound.
If you have tons of quality names, have to wait for the real buyers.
 
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his reply for "how much" resulted in:


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People now think that domainers are the cyber thieves that stole domains, stock them then try to extort the buyers.
They don't know that how hard we tried, how much money we lost, how many time we spent.
They just see that we - who got this name - trying to get some bucks from them, due to the TradeMark they had, they think that they have full rights for a domain name.
Fucking those cows, fucking UDRP.
And i stopped doing out bound, just wait to real buyers come and pay.
 
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Hi!

I noticed you are the owner of xxx Just letting you know that xxx is now on sale, let us know if you are interested and we will get back to you.
If you are not interested, have a nice day and sorry to bother you about this.

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Hi!

xxx is looking for a new owner :) and you can secure it through our company. Just let us know and we will get back to you with the details.
I would be happy to hear from you!
A screenshot not a typed paragraph lol also neither of those are word for word to mine lol... they are closer to the other user above with the apology. Regardless, I guarantee you frank, its 100000x better than “WHY wont you buy this name? Huh?!? TELL ME!!?”
 
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the replies is all that counts
after open rate tells you it was not send to spam

what is the reply rate
what is the reply
and most importantly
what is your answer???
The replies are all that counts??? Thats what me and Jurgen said lmao YOU said “Whats the open rate?!? Read rate?!?”

I’m trying to answer you as best as I can but like I said, i’m guessing english isnt your first language. I literally just gave you my answer, you can pick all the info you need out of my reply lol

I gave you my pitch because your sales pitch is spammy (Contrary to what one user said, the one who starts off with an apology lol) You need to use PROPER punctuation, don’t berate the customer like they’re being interrogated “GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY YOU WONT BUY THIS NAME?????? TELL ME’!?!.’!?”

It looks bad. If you want the info, copy and paste my pitch, and do your own analysis, because at the rate I got opens/clicks/replies, my pitch did better than yours with your 53% read rate :)
 
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A screenshot not a typed paragraph lol also neither of those are word for word to mine lol... they are closer to the other user above with the apology. Regardless, I guarantee you frank, its 100000x better than “WHY wont you buy this name? Huh?!? TELL ME!!?”

yes of course ;)

"the Hey Why Don't you buy"
was the 3rd email to people
who had clicked on a link in my previous mails
not the first contact
 
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The replies are all that counts??? Thats what me and Jurgen said lmao YOU said “Whats the open rate?!? Read rate?!?”

I’m trying to answer you as best as I can but like I said, i’m guessing english isnt your first language. I literally just gave you my answer, you can pick all the info you need out of my reply lol

I gave you my pitch because your sales pitch is spammy (Contrary to what one user said, the one who starts off with an apology lol) You need to use PROPER punctuation, don’t berate the customer like they’re being interrogated “GIVE ME ONE REASON WHY YOU WONT BUY THIS NAME?????? TELL ME’!?!.’!?”

It looks bad. If you want the info, copy and paste my pitch, and do your own analysis, because at the rate I got opens/clicks/replies, my pitch did better than yours with your 53% read rate :)


the open rate tells me the emails get read
are not send to spam

but I can't pay the bills from open rate

but it tells me if I need to tweak stuff
like the subject
or the technical details

but then
how many do reply
to which body ( sales copy )

and what do you do after
"how much" reply

how do you react
to an offer
you can live with
but is the first counter offer
( accepting means - they disappear - not only once in a while )

yes english is not my first language
as they teach german here in kindergarten ( a german word )
 
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If you are offering good domains at the right prices, it doesn't really matter the amount of emails sent, open rate, replies, etc. You only need 1 buyer. My outbound sales rate is generally 1 sale per 5 marketed domains. So If I market 5 in a day, I normally get 1 sale. Only about 20-70 emails on average per domain offer. I don't care about anything in between only sales = results. If you aren't getting sales, become more valuable to the marketplace.

But I have been shifting away from outbound and focusing more on inbound as outbound is getting harder each time because there are too many people spamming in the domain industry and it's just hurting the legit people. People are tired of all the web design, seo, renewal scams, etc emails going around. Also many "domainers" offering worthless stuff. I also get "domainers" offering me 0 value domains at end user prices when they shouldn't have even emailed me such offer because I am not relevant but they don't care. They just gather a bunch of emails and blast their worthless domains all around filling peoples already saturated email accounts with more junk.

Domaining is a skill. I can go right now and hand register 5-10 domains and make a $200-$300 sale next week. What matters is the domain you are offering. If you aren't bringing value to the marketplace, don't expect a sale.
 
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Hi!

I noticed you are the owner of xxx Just letting you know that xxx is now on sale, let us know if you are interested and we will get back to you.
If you are not interested, have a nice day and sorry to bother you about this.

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Hi!

xxx is looking for a new owner :) and you can secure it through our company. Just let us know and we will get back to you with the details.
I would be happy to hear from you!
So your opening line is just "Hi" ?

Each mail should be personalized, which means you should have a name, and address the recipient as Mr/Mrs XXXX, or at the very to the relevant marketing manager (in larger entities). But even then, you should do research, if necessary call the company first to get the name and contact details of the relevant decision-maker.

Saying hi just doesn't cut it for me. Even a one-man company should be addressed by his own name.
End users are not stupid, they get spam every day. It always beging with Hi !, Hello ! or: Dear Sir (seriously) :-P
At least give them the feeling that you made a personal effort when writing to them.

As the saying goes, you get only one chance to make a first impression :)
 
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So your opening line is just "Hi" ?

Each mail should be personalized, which means you should have a name, and address the recipient as Mr/Mrs XXXX, or at the very to the relevant marketing manager (in larger entities). But even then, you should do research, if necessary call the company first to get the name and contact details of the relevant decision-maker.

Saying hi just doesn't cut it for me. Even a one-man company should be addressed by his own name.
End users are not stupid, they get spam every day. It always beging with Hi !, Hello ! or: Dear Sir (seriously) :-P
At least give them the feeling that you made a personal effort when writing to them.

As the saying goes, you get only one chance to make a first impression :)

@Kate
the quoted email was a spam I have received today

I would never start with "Hi"
I start with "Hey," ;)
 
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So your opening line is just "Hi" ?

Each mail should be personalized, which means you should have a name, and address the recipient as Mr/Mrs XXXX, or at the very to the relevant marketing manager (in larger entities). But even then, you should do research, if necessary call the company first to get the name and contact details of the relevant decision-maker.

Saying hi just doesn't cut it for me. Even a one-man company should be addressed by his own name.
End users are not stupid, they get spam every day. It always beging with Hi !, Hello ! or: Dear Sir (seriously) :-P
At least give them the feeling that you made a personal effort when writing to them.

As the saying goes, you get only one chance to make a first impression :)
@Kate
the quoted email was a spam I have received today

I would never start with "Hi"
I start with "Hey," ;)

“Hey” to me and many others is regarded as immature, a lot of older folks will actually be a bit upset when you say “hey” to them, they will even correct you lol

I think that any email we send can be regarded as “spam”, there are so so so many email spammers, that every template is used up and bone dry. One thing is for sure though, correct spelling, correct punctuation, and right word placement matters tremendously. Also my sites are all set up with a ready to purchase landing page in case they want a no contact deal. However, I will always do a follow up email to those who opened it about 1-2 months after if I haven’t got a reply.
 
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