LLLL.com HYPE is down now.

[steveteva]

Is the LLLL.com HYPE down now?
It looks like selling 4 letter is not as profitable as it was last week and right after november 2.

If some did a big investment on these I don't know if they are loosing money. Some have portfolio of hundreds LLLL.com that are not premium so if they spend $800.00 (register fees) how will they sell them all if there is no more buyers?

I know I have a solution (in my guide) but even this, I think that many will bite their fingers.

Do you think that 4 letter dot coms will increase value or will be selling at "wholesale" cheapest price ($6.00 - $16) in future?

 

[metronome]

well, dunno what will happen in LLLL.com
noone can predict future at 100%accuracy

but IMO, as long .com stays strong against rising cctld and other new extensions to come in the future, LLLL.com will see more and more demand, but I dont think the increase will come as fast as LLL.com

right now , I dont think there is any extension that can match .com in extension, but in the future, noone can tell.

 

[steveteva]

Last update, ok you guys were right, just because sunday some domainers sell their LLLL.com low doesn't mean that no one weren't interested anymore, but it's partly because some sellers wants to have quick cash and fear that these LLLL.com with bad letters have no value in future.

What I see today is that it did increase in value, now lot of LLLL.com are sold for min. $35.00 - $40.00 and over for quality ones.

So what is the prediction? Up and Low? I ask this question because everyone here wants to know as we all spend money on them.

Also I've notice some domainers here buy all cheap LLLL.com they could even if it's $25.00 and bad letter, it looks like the idea behind is speculation. If most domainers with biggest LLLL.com portfolio of any kind sell for a min of $35.00 each in future, then value will increase. Also that price make sense as Backorder fees for future LLLL.com drops should be higher than $35.00

 

[gwkg]

WOW, I think hype is really down now, I've check many post (for sale fixed price, offer, bidding) and sellers are having lot of difficulties to have a buyer now. Looks like people are less interested for LLLL.com now


So it could be something like: You spend $15.00 for a LLLL.com domain name or worst +$100 and you will end selling it for $8.00 because no one are interested.

Bad investment or Must wait longer to make profits?

Its gift giving season. People always cash out some investments this time of year to buy gifts. Most people need their cash to buy gifts, not speculatively invest.

January will be a better time to judge whats going on in the LLLL.com market.

 

[domainer50]

I think that the best thing to do is sell them. I just done for see the names going that high up in value.

 

[thetruman]

Good idea domainer 50
Please post here a list of yours LLLL .
I will buy what you have at 10$ a piece any combination of letters.

 

[vlad74]

Some my thoughts (all :imho: ):

1. I think there is no hype. It was exiting moment in regging the last available LLLLs few weeks ago, it is exiting now for some domainer to trade some of them, to feel what the product they bought is worth now, if there is interest in the market for that product.

As the product is bought currently at premium, the sellers will probably keep the larger part of their portfolio, waiting for more gains in the future. It means, we will not see large sell out in the coming weeks and months and the prices will continue to rise steadily.

2. We do not see overextented prices. Some nice LLLLs being sold at "high" prices are the sign that they were previously undervalued and are filling now a gap between non-premium LLL for 6K and premium LLLL for 0.6K which existed in previous months.

Would you prefer an unpronauncable "LLL" or pronauncable "CVCV"? And if (all just abstract examples, I do not know the prices for following domains) XYZ.com would cost you 10,000 and LOLA.com just 2,000? Will it be still the same decision?

3. I expect the prices to rise constantly, as mentioned on dyyo.com page (and graph). Two very unlikly events that can stop or ruin the prices are global (not just US or China or whatever) crisis (not recession, depression or stock market correction) or popularity of newly introduced extention (lets say, all of us in 10 years will use only .tel or .web, becase producers of phones and keyboards put a special button for it and companies promoting such extention spend lots of money bringing its image in line with .com). Such events, although possible, are highly unlikely.

4. internet penetration grows, expecially in developing countries. Such countries are using local extentions, but parallel usage of global extention .com (as well as .net from the first wave, and extentions of second wave: .info, .org) will rise. So will rise the demand for short and especially short pronauncable names. LLs will cost millions, LLLs will cost 10 times more than now, LLLLs will cost may be 60-120 for the worst ones to x,xxx for good ones, the rest is between these levels (all for .com extention).

5. After reading this thread, I decided to check the market. I put one unique LLLL from my portfolio on auction here at NamePros. Currently it is at 11$ (6 bids):

http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-sale-auctions/397420-very-rare-vqxt-com-one-last.html

If there were a hype, I would see a price of at least 30-50$ immediatly with tens of bids, and probably even higher few days later. If the hype existed but was over, I would not seen any bets above regfee.

So, looks like we are in the normal market conditions for LLLLs right now. Although I would prefer a hype mood today or tomorrow to sell my unique domain , for the short term as well as for the long term we have quite good prospects of constant, stable growth. :imho:

Vlad

 

[GreenGambler]

If there were a hype, I would see a price of at least 30-50$ immediatly with tens of bids, and probably even higher few days later. If the hype existed but was over, I would not seen any bets above regfee.

So, looks like we are in the normal market conditions for LLLLs right now. Although I would prefer a hype mood today or tomorrow to sell my unique domain , for the short term as well as for the long term we have quite good prospects of constant, stable growth. :imho:

I like what you said. People's definition of hype is surely different but I do agree that we are seeing LLLL.coms go for normal/average priced right now, above to well above reg fee. IMO the selling prices will continue to increase with or without hype.

 

[VURG]

5. After reading this thread, I decided to check the market. I put one unique LLLL from my portfolio on auction here at NamePros. ...If there were a hype, I would see a price of at least 30-50$ immediatly with tens of bids, and probably even higher few days later. If the hype existed but was over, I would not seen any bets above regfee.

So, looks like we are in the normal market conditions for LLLLs right now.

I disagree. I don't think I have seen the Namepros auctions as active as I have in the past month. The increase in activity on the Namepros auctions since the LLLL.com buyout has been significant!

I have sold hundreds of names on auction before and tens of bids for a name is not commonplace and names selling for less than they are worth is common. The larger domain spenders often avoid places like Namepros auctions and because of time constraints, trust issues and privacy issues. If you want $30-$50 for your name, look other places.

 

[-REECE-]

Agreed.

The auctions have been very busy here lately... Mods might have to revise that bumping rule to every 12 hours, rather than 24! I've noticed alot of people bumping before 24 hours and not alot of deleted posts, so it looks like the mods there understand the current situation as well.

I disagree. I don't think I have seen the Namepros auctions as active as I have in the past month. The increase in activity on the Namepros auctions since the LLLL.com buyout has been significant!

I have sold hundreds of names on auction before and tens of bids for a name is not commonplace and names selling for less than they are worth is common. The larger domain spenders often avoid places like Namepros auctions and because of time constraints, trust issues and privacy issues. If you want $30-$50 for your name, look other places.

 

[VURG]

TDNAM is interesting to watch. Most of the LLLL.com have early bids despite the $10 fee.

 

[-REECE-]

You're right though VURG -- demand on TDNAM really is increasing.

Only sxjw.com hasn't had a bid and ends within the next day. Doesn't look like many names will be available for regfee ever again

 

[VURG]

Another thing to watch is the number of BIN on TDNAM. Most of the domains that were $29 and lower have been bought (or had their prices increased) in the last two weeks. There are 249 BIN LLLL.com in the $10-$100 category.

 

[Andrei P.]

TDNAM is interesting to watch. Most of the LLLL.com have early bids despite the $10 fee.

BTW I think that many of TDNAM bidders have only 7$ fee (Domain discount club)
Early bids is a way to buy a domain for the lowest possible 17$ in this case. And if a domain isn't the worst one I think there it will be quite possible to have 100% ROI in one year (and if only 50% ROI - that's not so bad either). Why not? LLLL.com even with 1 bad letter isn't worse for end user than CCC.com that increased in price rapidly. Are there many CCC.com end-users?

But increasing bids on TDNAM and increased starting bids on Snapnames means that there are at least enough people so far ready to invest in LLLL.com and hold them for at least some time (6-12 months) and perhaps 1-2 years.

 

[italiandragon]

Another thing to watch is the number of BIN on TDNAM. Most of the domains that were $29 and lower have been bought (or had their prices increased) in the last two weeks. There are 249 BIN LLLL.com in the $10-$100 category.

exactly...I always pointed out that, it used to be around 500 till 2 months before the sell-out