The official lets stop arguing about LLLL.com thread

[domainer50]

Yes I know yet another official thread. I only wrote the word official becuase I knew most everybody would take a look. On the board there seems to be alot of arguing back and forth between LLLL.com lovers and LLLL.com haters. I for one believe that the names are not a gold mine but that is just my opinion. Conversation is great but arguing is bad :imho: Me telling someone that owns 500 LLLL.com names, that I dont think they are a good investment is not going to change anything and that person should not care. But the constant arguing about this LLLL.com and that LLLL.com seems a bit childish. For those that own the names, I wish you the very best of luck simply becuase I think that if they do turn out to be something worthwhile it will help us domainers as a whole. For those who think they are worth nothing, it is alright to say and think so, but lets keep the arguing down.
I think it will help make this a better board if we stop arguing about names, and rather, have intelligent conversations about them.

My 2 cents

 

[Keith]

I don't see how anyone can argue about a group of names so high in demand that they SOLD OUT :sold:

 

[filter]

well said Peter ...

informed comments from all points of view are worth their virtual weight in gold (okay, maybe about 2 cents or so) - but really only time will tell if the huge number of "line-noise" LLLL (which I am the proud owner of more than a few) represent little more than a "fools gold mine" or if they have some real enduring value above reg fee ...

for those who still feel the need to get their argument fix, here is a link to the "argument clinic" -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y05EmK66Gsk

 

[-REECE-]

It's the same as .mobi -- when something is "in" with a crowd of people, there'll always be people to discount it -- just like there were people discounting premium LLLL.coms in 2004-2005 (they look pretty silly now!).

I'm not saying .mobi is "it" or even that LLLL.com "is", despite all my research into the LLLL.com market... However anyone who's put 5 figures of his own money into something isn't going to allow others to parade around discounting his or her investment. And if anyone thinks this is bad, why don't you head over to the .mobi forum and post about how much you hate .mobi... Cancel that, I don't want to have to deal with that again!

I don't see how anyone can argue about a group of names so high in demand that they SOLD OUT :sold:

 

[gazzip]

for those who still feel the need to get their argument fix, here is a link to the "argument clinic" -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y05EmK66Gsk

:hehe: that's a good one !

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[abcproductions]

I for one believe that the names are not a gold mine but that is just my opinion. Conversation is great but arguing is bad :imho: Me telling someone that owns 500 LLLL.com names, that I dont think they are a good investment is not going to change anything and that person should not care.

what is the basis for your opinion that LLLL.com investments are not good?

i own more than 500 LLLL.coms and have purchased 99% at reg fee or less. i would not consider them a gold mine but they are unquestionably and unarguably a good investment. they have ALL appreciated in value and some by more than 200 times (that's a whopping 10,000% increase). this is an absolutely amazing statistic for any investment. i own a large portfolio of stocks and i am thrilled when i can sell a stock for double what i paid for it in less than five years. THRILLED. my LLLL.coms have performed better by leaps and bounds. i have sold more than 200 LLLL.coms and have never sold for less than 7.5 times my investment. this is unheard of in the investment world.
you're absolutely right that i don't care that you think LLLL.coms are a bad investment but it does make me think you do not have a clue about what a good investment is. if you are speaking about those who buy LLLLs on the secondary market for a premium, that is a completely different issue. Most of us large holders of LLLL.coms purchased at reg fee.

To everyone who likes to state...this is just my opinion...opinions can be wrong and this is a perfect example of that. the opinion that LLLL.coms are a bad investment (when purchased at reg fee) is simply wrong; factually wrong and economically wrong.

 

[bricio]

i just lose my time reading these threads or posting in these threads i just lose my time reading... :hehe:
i refuse to comment about LLLL.com and their future

 

[domainer50]

ABC- Yet again you are reverting back to arguing. An opinion last time I checked could not be wrong. To me LLLL.com unless they spell out a four letter word or are brand able are not worth much. Sure right now you are selling them, but on that some token at the moment these names are hyped pretty high. I would be interested to see what the people who bought those 200 names off you at $40 are more, are doing with them. If they are developing them then sure you might return a profit, any domain with good marketing and content is going to return a profit. But if they are thinking about holding them for a year or two, :imho: they are going to be surprised at what the offers they receive are. Again this is an opinion. But feel free to once again write a childish "I make more money than you selling LLLL.com names HAHAAH" response. Ill be waiting.

 

[gazzip]

:lol: ...here we go again !


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[domainer50]

:lol: ...here we go again !


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I know right. This is what happens, In my very first post to start off the thread I knew this would happen. :yell:

 

[zachary0611]

i never would have thought .tv would be doing good either

 

[domainer50]

i never would have thought .tv would be doing good either

You cannot compare the .tv extension to something like this. Its two totally different things. One is an extension, the other is the way that extension is setup.

 

[Alex]

I invested in LLLL.com's, will sell some off, and will keep some good ones.

I have a strong opinion on them, and I never shared it yet on namepros, and I won't do it now, cause this is the stop arguing thread.

Will you guys stop?

Yes, I made a big profit on my LLLL's. Yes, I am happy with them. No, not everybody who invested in them will make a profit. No, we don't know how many end users are there for LLLL.com's, nor we know how many Chinese end users will buy LLLL.com s in the aftermarket.

Maybe if I will have time, I will make a thread about all the acronym domains (not just LLLL.com's), to put in my perspective.

But, as the OP stated, let's stop arguing for a while.

 

[domainer50]

But, as the OP stated, let's stop arguing for a while.

Yaya. Finally someone has agreed.

 

[abcproductions]

But feel free to once again write a childish "I make more money than you selling LLLL.com names HAHAAH" response. Ill be waiting.

i didn't say i make more money than you or anyone else. i said that selling some of my LLLL.coms has consistently returned higher profits as compared to more traditional investments such as stocks.

 

[domainer50]

i didn't say i make more money than you or anyone else. i said that selling some of my LLLL.coms has consistently returned higher profits as compared to more traditional investments such as stocks.

Thats wonderful to hear and I am very happy for you. (This is not an argument BTW) I never claimed that buying stocks was any better or worse than buying LLLL.com names

 

[floatingworld]

The antis were pissed during the countdown and are now just pissed they missed the boat and are mounting a determined campaign to shake-out the market to prove a point. In effect they are trying to short the stock with the same no end-user blather as was blasted at the LLL.com holders after that sell-out. Shouting abuse from the sidelines is a popular hobby.

 

[geb9696]

what is the basis for your opinion that LLLL.com investments are not good?

i own more than 500 LLLL.coms and have purchased 99% at reg fee or less. i would not consider them a gold mine but they are unquestionably and unarguably a good investment. they have ALL appreciated in value and some by more than 200 times (that's a whopping 10,000% increase). this is an absolutely amazing statistic for any investment. i own a large portfolio of stocks and i am thrilled when i can sell a stock for double what i paid for it in less than five years. THRILLED. my LLLL.coms have performed better by leaps and bounds. i have sold more than 200 LLLL.coms and have never sold for less than 7.5 times my investment. this is unheard of in the investment world.
you're absolutely right that i don't care that you think LLLL.coms are a bad investment but it does make me think you do not have a clue about what a good investment is. if you are speaking about those who buy LLLLs on the secondary market for a premium, that is a completely different issue. Most of us large holders of LLLL.coms purchased at reg fee.

To everyone who likes to state...this is just my opinion...opinions can be wrong and this is a perfect example of that. the opinion that LLLL.coms are a bad investment (when purchased at reg fee) is simply wrong; factually wrong and economically wrong.

I am not going to comment on LLLL.com domains in this thread but I would like to make a comment on how people continue to compare domains to stocks. I really fail to see the comparison as I view the two investments as completely different. If you want to compare domain names to something I think the derivatives markets(commodities, options, etc.) would be valid. In that market you can see gains of over 100% in a day. I would see developed websites more like stocks and domains more like commodities or options. /Rant

 

[domainer50]

The antis were pissed during the countdown and are now just pissed they missed the boat and are mounting a determined campaign to shake-out the market to prove a point. In effect they are trying to short the stock with the same no end-user blather as was blasted at the LLL.com holders after that sell-out. Shouting abuse from the sidelines is a popular hobby.

With the amount of names available before the sell out I think the only way for someone to miss the boat was to not even sign up for it. I know that I had the chance and the cash to buy several hundred names. I chose not to, simply becuase :imho: it would not be worth it.

 

[namenut]

The antis were pissed during the countdown and are now just pissed they missed the boat and are mounting a determined campaign to shake-out the market to prove a point. In effect they are trying to short the stock with the same no end-user blather as was blasted at the LLL.com holders after that sell-out. Shouting abuse from the sidelines is a popular hobby.

In this case I think you are correct. The OP started off saying an opinion should be respected and considered by all. However the OP has countered every opinion in this thread with his sarcasm, criticism, and omniscient retorts

"If they are developing them then sure you might return a profit, any domain with good marketing and content is going to return a profit. "


To me LLLL.com unless they spell out a four letter word or are brand able are not worth much.

But if they are thinking about holding them for a year or two, they are going to be surprised at what the offers they receive are

I know right. This is what happens, In my very first post to start off the thread I knew this would happen.



You cannot compare the .tv extension to something like this. Its two totally different things. One is an extension, the other is the way that extension is setup.


But feel free to once again write a childish "I make more money than you selling LLLL.com names HAHAAH" response. Ill be waiting



Thats wonderful to hear and I am very happy for you. (This is not an argument BTW) I never claimed that buying stocks was any better or worse than buying LLLL.com name

To this reader it appears the OP feels there is only one opinion. But then ..... this is just MY opinion.