LLLL.com COUNTDOWN!

[VURG]

COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER! ​

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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.

 

[vlad74]

A list of all 2,155 available:

http://www.tauonline.org/LLLL.txt

Feel free to reg + rep.

I thought all names starting with l, m, etc were already taken by Aussiedomainer, but they are still in the list

 

[-REECE-]

me too and I have much nicer than that one....probably because they receive type in from the LLL.com

Nice Maybe this is old news, but I just noticed that almost every name with Q now has 2 additional bad letters. Very hard to even get a name with just Q and X or Q and Z. Feels good having bought 500 of them with Q and 3 premiums

I thought all names starting with l, m, etc were already taken by Aussiedomainer, but they are still in the list

Aussie wiped out all the ones without Q/X/Z. I think that's all the wiping out he did (although that was like 500 names if memory serves me correct)

 

[johntv]

IYep But I may very well have paid $50,000+ in renewal fees ($11k+ annually) by then, and then we have to factor in the lost opportunity cost of what I could have made had I put that money in say, Apple stock.

You almost got me there feeling sorry for you, nice try though

On a serious note, you will be very successful with this, good call to reg as many as over 1,500 in my opinion. As flipping for reg fee is already possible now, there hardly seems a way you can loose here.

Reading all recent posts here, I checked my thread from only May this year:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/327313-minimum-price-200-any-4-letter.html
and think I even have being conservative and now are convinced any 4 letter .com will have a minimum value of $400 in early 2009 (as any 3 letter .com will probably be at least $10,000 in early 2009, bringing the minimum value of a 4 letter to $10,000 / 26 = around $400).

 

[johnnywj]

A list of all 2,155 available:

http://www.tauonline.org/LLLL.txt

Feel free to reg + rep.

Only 1457 Available from that list.

 

[clickcents]

You mean 2 hours ?

2 days...

but within last 2 hrs,around 300+ already registered..

my friend tried to register 11 and was available at the time of searching..

but when he checked out,already 4 regged by someone

seems things are at the extreme hot...hot...no more waitings....

 

[DotCN]

I thought all names starting with l, m, etc were already taken by Aussiedomainer, but they are still in the list

I think probably only names starting with QXYZ are available now at least, for CCCC.coms, it's TRUE. Only 190 CCCC.coms are available and all of them start with QXYZ.

P.S. CCCC.coms are the best domains for Chinese.

 

[-REECE-]

You almost got me there feeling sorry for you, nice try though

On a serious note, you will be very successful with this, good call to reg as many as over 1,500 in my opinion. As flipping for reg fee is already possible now, there hardly seems a way you can loose here.

Reading all recent posts here, I checked my thread from only May this year:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/327313-minimum-price-200-any-4-letter.html
and think I even have being conservative and now are convinced any 4 letter .com will have a minumum value of $400 in early 2009 (as any 3 letter .com will probably be at least $10,000 in early 2009, bringing the minimum value of a 4 letter to $10,000 / 26 = around $400).

Thanks John I would have put more.. I just don't have the money. I consider it a safe investment -- like stock in a big tech firm like Apple, Google, or Microsoft. I still don't feel safe enough to max out my credit card, take out a loan, or (gasp!) a reverse mortgage, but all in all, I'm pretty confident that these guys will be going nowhere but up.

I see the same trend.. People say that more companies have 3 letter acronyms... To that, I say that many companies cannot afford to spend $10,000 on a LLL.com. Seriously...

People seems to think Every Company, Inc is big and rich and loves giving their money away to domainers... None of that being remotely true. There's hundreds of thousands of small businesses in the USA which could not afford to spend $10,000 on a LLL.com.. There's also more and more users in India, China, and other developing nations getting access to the Internet and to whom $100-$500 may be manageable, but $10,000 may very likely be more than they gross in a year...

I think LLLL's are much more than a niche.. They're DotCom Boom 2.0

And there's no reason they should bust, nor be worth a penny less than 1/26th their former.

 

[ilcesco]

I'm running a scan now on the remaining, but it looks like that "DSTR ACQUISITION VII, LLC" is getting a big chunk of the remaining ones.
Scan just finished: 1457 still available, 698 gone in the last minutes

 

[vlad74]

2 days...

but within last 2 hrs,around 300+ already registered..

my friend tried to register 11 and was available at the time of searching..

but when he checked out,already 4 regged by someone

seems things are at the extreme hot...hot...no more waitings....

yes, things are getting hot to the end. But 2 hours is rather optimistic. I think they will all end in 4 or 5 hours :imho:

 

[Sameh]

Only 1457 Available from that list.

Right, 1457 Available.

Here is the list.

 

[accent]

Not saying that it is a year wait. Just saying that the liquidators need to offload their domains before the domains make the jump to 100% backordered.

Exactly. There are those who plan to unload as soon as they can double their money - which is a very good return in most investments. It will take some time for the market to move those people's names into the hands of long term holders. Then there are those who will be happy to get three times what they paid. And so on. Remember that steady line on the DYYO chart. That is the movement of the market, whatever is feeding it, domainers, industry and/or endusers. A steadily increasing demand.

 

[italiandragon]

I'm running a scan now on the remaining, but it looks like that "DSTR ACQUISITION VII, LLC" is getting a big chunk of the remaining ones.
Scan just finished: 1457 still available, 698 gone in the last minutes

as I thought, they won`t last 24 hours.

 

[AussieDomainer]

I thought all names starting with l, m, etc were already taken by Aussiedomainer, but they are still in the list

Yes, I took all names beginning with L, M, N, O, P, R, S & T an hour or so ago. As far as I'm aware there won't be any left.

 

[-REECE-]

Yes, I took all names beginning with L, M, N, O, P, R, S & T an hour or so ago. As far as I'm aware there won't be any left.

How many names was that, out of curiosity?

 

[Sameh]

Yes, I took all names beginning with L, M, N, O, P, R, S & T an hour or so ago. As far as I'm aware there won't be any left.

Right .. Current available ones starting with Q / U / V / X / Y / Z

 

[clickcents]

who will register the last domain of LLLL.com.???. :hehe:

when is DYYO's next update?

seems before DYYO's update,all will be regged..

 

[Alex]

Don't forget to Digg VURG's article:
http://digg.com/software/All_of_the_456976_4_Letter_Domain_Names_Are_Going_Now

 

[italiandragon]

who will register the last domain of LLLL.com.???. :hehe:

when is DYYO's next update?

seems before DYYO's update,all will be regged..

it`s 3 hours and 45 minuts away.

 

[DotCN]

Right, 1457 Available.

Here is the list.

thank you for the list.
rep added.

 

[-REECE-]

I'm running a scan now on the remaining, but it looks like that "DSTR ACQUISITION VII, LLC" is getting a big chunk of the remaining ones.
Scan just finished: 1457 still available, 698 gone in the last minutes

A Google Search suggests that's an actual registrar -- you guys better reg fast if that's the case!