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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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KingDon said:
I think I'm going to have a big smile for a few days. Just knowing it happened will bring me such joy. I love when "never" actually happens.

Hang onto your names for two years and you'll be OK; if you sell before then, you'll probably be kicking yourself.

Ya,we can expect good value after 2 yrs only..the more years we hang these 4 letters,the more we will get

we will get around $50 to $100 for a decent combination (not premium letters)for the first year and second year may rise upto $250

but after two years,we can expect more than $400 to $1000 even for bad letter combinations

After all LLLL.coms taken,all should take a decision as not to sell any LLLL.com below $50 even for a bad letter combination.That will surely increase the value and fetch more end users and resellers.

let's have a joiing effort on this...cheers!! :hehe:
 
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DotCN said:
Sorry for that :(
I got it: GHZG.

nice name :)

I also wanted it but it you were faster
 
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DotCN said:
Thank you for your interest.

I really love this domain, because it have a very high score in my LLLL evaluation system. ZG is ZhongGuo in PinYin. ZhongGuo means China in chinese.

I would not sell it now. I am sorry.


Thanks for the answer :)

Wise and quick to reg it , good stuff!
 
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AussieDomainer said:
Too late Alex, I already took all LLLL.com starting with L, M, N, O, P, R, S & T :)

O no, I also wanted a piece of cake with these names :'(

You are lucky, AussieDomainer
:$: :$: :$:
 
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Again .. All gone in 15 mins :)

GoDaddy bulk registration.

eg.domains said:
LLLL.com with ( 9,000 - 20,000 Google Results )​

vzhl.COM 19,600
uxvw.COM 16,600
zwyv.COM 16,500
qvph.COM 15,500
uqvw.COM 15,500
zvtw.COM 15,400
xqgv.COM 14,400
yvzw.COM 15,400
yvql.COM 14,900
vlqy.COM 14,200
vfdq.COM 14,000
xqew.COM 11,000
uvxt.COM 14,700
zlvh.COM 13,200
vzyw.COM 13,600
vslq.COM 13,400
xsvy.COM 13,400
vxqw.COM 13,000
uxvz.COM 13,600
vyxq.COM 12,600
znqr.COM 12,500
qvxw.COM 12,400
yvrq.COM 12,500
oxqh.COM 11,900
vxwt.COM 12,000
vxyk.COM 12,400
uwvz.COM 11,600
rvtq.COM 12,700
xsvz.COM 11,200
vzry.COM 10,400
xvwc.COM 10,700
uvqr.COM 10,600
uxqr.COM 9,910
uyxv.COM 10,800
yvxt.COM 10,500
rqvw.COM 9,940
xvyt.COM 10,600
qywv.COM 10,500
uzxw.COM 10,000
rdqv.COM 9,490
vtqn.COM 10,200
uxwr.COM 9,660
qvxz.COM 9,840
uzvx.COM 9,720
xvwr.COM 9,710
vqlj.COM 9,540
zvql.COM 9,820
xdqr.COM 9,280
vlqn.COM 9,640



Rep & NP$ are welcome.
 
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I think we are in the last 24 hours.
 
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clickcents said:
Ya,we can expect good value after 2 yrs only..the more years we hang these 4 letters,the more we will get

we will get around $50 to $100 for a decent combination (not premium letters)for the first year and second year may rise upto $250

but after two years,we can expect more than $400 to $1000 even for bad letter combinations

After all LLLL.coms taken,all should take a decision as not to sell any LLLL.com below $50 even for a bad letter combination.That will surely increase the value and fetch more end users and resellers.

let's have a joiing effort on this...cheers!! :hehe:

I think this 50 dollars lowest price sounds reasonable, taking into consideration that all LLLLs will be sold today.

Guys, do everyone agrees with it or shall we set other (reasonable!) lowest level?
 
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vlad74 said:
I think this 50 dollars lowest price sounds reasonable, taking into consideration that all LLLLs will be sold today.

Guys, do everyone agrees with it or shall we set other (reasonable!) lowest level?

$50 is too low.
$100 or $200 is better :)
 
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vlad74 said:
I think this 50 dollars lowest price sounds reasonable, taking into consideration that all LLLLs will be sold today.

Guys, do everyone agrees with it or shall we set other (reasonable!) lowest level?
Good idea. but you can't force every LLLLs holder to work with it. :)
 
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I regd 73 more now.
 
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vlad74 said:
I think this 50 dollars lowest price sounds reasonable, taking into consideration that all LLLLs will be sold today.

Guys, do everyone agrees with it or shall we set other (reasonable!) lowest level?


such agreement is unfair and quite impossible to realise , the market (demand and offer) will make the price.

You can`t expect to reach a fixed amount but there will be many sales ranging from $10 to $100 in the following months. Slowly , as more buyers will increase the demand , the prices will go higher and higher.

johnnywj said:
I regd 73 more now.



THAT`S ENOUGHT! i`m going to use my wife CC now , I can`t wait! :yell:

does anyone have a list of what is REALLY left?
 
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italiandragon said:
THAT`S ENOUGHT! i`m going to use my wife CC now , I can`t wait! :yell:

does anyone have a list of what is REALLY left?

Yep, basically what DYYO.com says minus what Johnny has registered. In other words not much :hehe:
 
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Don't really agree with this $50 stuff. There are probably some who have overspent on these names and will take what they get.
 
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AussieDomainer said:
Yep, basically what DYYO.com says minus what Johnny has registered. In other words not much :hehe:


Johnny is regging all! And I was confident that I could wait 1 or 2 days to get some funds..... :'(
 
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VURG said:
Don't really agree with this $50 stuff. There are probably some who have overspent on these names and will take what they get.

Well, than we will have to wait. In one year there shall not be any names below 50 USD, even without our price fixing :imho:
 
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VURG said:
Don't really agree with this $50 stuff. There are probably some who have overspent on these names and will take what they get.

I agree wholeheartedly. I know there have been a few people wanting to try to set minimum prices and band together to make the market pay these. Personally I don't agree with this practice. But besides that it won't work anyway when there are over 450,000 of these domains available. There is no way that we can control enough of the supply to determine a minimum market price. There will always be some people happy to sell for say $15 each knowing that they have doubled their money in no time to pay for some other renewals etc.

I believe with time the value will grow and resale prices will be driven up. However let's leave this to the market to determine. If you don't want to sell for less than a certain price that's great, but don't expect everyone else to do the same to start with.
 
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vlad74 said:
Well, than we will have to wait. In one year there shall not be any names below 50 USD, even without our price fixing :imho:


In one year , it will be likely over $100
 
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DotCN said:
Thank you for your interest.

I really love this domain, because it have a very high score in my LLLL evaluation system. ZG is ZhongGuo in PinYin. ZhongGuo means China in chinese.

I would not sell it now. I am sorry.

DotCN, are there any ZGs left or you took them all?
 
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vlad74 said:
Well, than we will have to wait. In one year there shall not be any names below 50 USD, even without our price fixing :imho:

Not saying that it is a year wait. Just saying that the liquidators need to offload their domains before the domains make the jump to 100% backordered.
 
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Looks like the 2,000th post has beaten the buyout after all. I remember people debating as to whether the 1,000th post would be made before buyout. Looks like we're getting very excited towards the end of the road :)
 
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