.tv Latona newsletter FortLauderdale.tv for sale

[garptrader]

I just noticed on Rick Latona's daily newsletter that the domain FortLauderdale.tv was for sale for $3500. I believe it has a premium renewal.

 

[Vito]

Yeah, $1000.00 Premium Renewal fee...
Best of luck to them with that sale.
It is a Killer Geo.tv

 

[GoneWalkabout]

The name was sold last year by Local Experts for just $270 and Mr Pickering was anything but dumb.

http://www.namepros.com/tv-marketplace/561005-fortlauderdale-tv-25-a.html

In 2010, that premium is a little too rich for most people at $1000.

It startles me how many of the .com big guns seem to fall flat on their face when dealing in .TV

I wish him all the best but .com and premium .tv are TWO very different worlds and I will be surprised if this makes even the annual premium.

NOW, if it was a non-premium name that would be VERY different!

 

[MillersCrossing]

Another big player looking to exit the premium geo arena.

That is quite alot of folks recently. Chef Patrick, Rick Latona, Local Experts. Im sure alot more too on the QT

I wish Dan V all the success in the world, but I wont be too surprised if he gets off the premium geo train wreck too anytime soon.

With the exception of anyone who can both (A) Hold on year in year out and consistently pay the premiums (B). Actually look to develop the site themselves, successfully,LOCALLY,everyone else who has not yet woken up from all that dreadful hype that you buy a .tv geo domain and you suddenly have access to tv networks round the globe salivating at throwing millions of dollars at a project that is nothing more than a house of cards.

In the small time I have been into domains I know of maybe two people who could pull off a very semi successful .tv geo network and certainly would not have any grand ideas or mouth off at the millions already stashed in the bank just because they paid a few k on their credit card to secure premium geo.tvs that have been on the premium list for years untouched.


There is a reason why the list was mainly untouched for the last ten years. Nobody in their right mind would touch it.

 

[b2b]

I'm quite surprised since Rick Latona's newsletters are anti-tv names.
However they're in love with 4 letter .com's in the $xxxx range that make no sense.

Anyway...

 

[GoneWalkabout]

SPIDERSPIDER

Totally agree

But we need to differentiate between PREMIUM geos and non-premium geos

I own several high 'quality', but still standard reg (non-premium) geos and would NEVER sell at any price near $270!!!!

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[MillersCrossing]

SPIDERSPIDER

Totally agree

But we need to differentiate between PREMIUM geos and non-premium geos

I own several high 'quality', but still standard reg (non-premium) geos and would NEVER sell at any price near $270!!!!

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If never mentioned premium then I should have. Non premiums take the pressure off selling too low, allow you to hold and wait for a decent offer or not have to worry about premiums if you do not have credit, or not enough credit while you build up your site

The reason we are seeing the sharpest drop in geos over other .tv premium names is only because geos rose the most due to the hype and pump and dump strategies...

And as the saying goes - the higher you jump - the harder you fall....

But I will agree ith Snoop - this ravaging of the .tv market is general is particularly intense due to the undelying market being so reliant on D2D sales and very few end user sales of any significance.

Once the domainer market collapsed - there was and still is very little end user trading to keep this market from haven fallen off a cliff.

Time to take losses, time to take profits , time to change extensions - pronto.

 

[Vito]

Completely hypothetical question here...

If FortLauderdale.tv were NOT a $1000 Premium domain,
How much do you think it would sell for today?

or even better yet,
How much would you pay for it, If it wasn't a Premium?

I haven't entered the Premium Market yet.
I don't know if I will anytime soon but this domain seems like it would be a pretty damn good contender
for a total price tag of $4500 ($3500 + $1000 1 yr fee)...

 

[GoneWalkabout]

The reason we are seeing the sharpest drop in geos over other .tv premium names is only because geos rose the most due to the hype and pump and dump strategies....

The opposite of 'pump and dump' is 'cry and buy' or 'poop and scoop'

Are you really saying I should sell a standard-reg name of a city with a population of 300,000, that costs $25 a year to renew? If so, you are barking mad.

Once the domainer market collapsed - there was and still is very little end user trading to keep this market from haven fallen off a cliff..

May I refer you to a new thread that has just begun here. It may educate you towards where part of the REAL market is located...

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/640504-what-do-fortune-500-companies-think.html

 

[MillersCrossing]

Are you really saying I should sell a standard-reg name of a city with a population of 300,000, that costs $25 a year to renew? If so, you are barking mad.

Perhaps i didnt explain clear enough in my opening line. I agree the problem is with premiums geos only, not non premium, where u can sit back and not have to sweat on a $25 renewal.

But overall the entire .tv market has had a tremendous fall. Premium/non premium. Geo/Non Geo And no matter what Fortune 500 thinks, its how many profitable .tv sales have I made this year/last year.

Have i got in and got out at the right time or am I sticking my head in the sand , hoping for those beautiful .tv hype days to return.

My opinion is that it will never again command the heavy domainer2domainer sales/trading as in 2006-2008.

And certainly domainers will never go back to crazy premium buying. Too many people have got too burnt to try that one again.

But guess what - thats just my opinion. I am more than happy to be proven wrong - I have a few non premium .tv names that I like, do not need to ever sell and can wait for the end user.

Whether that lottery ticket sale is in my lifetime is another matter

 

[GoneWalkabout]

But overall the entire .tv market has had a tremendous fall. Premium/non premium. Geo/Non Geo And no matter what Fortune 500 thinks, its how many profitable .tv sales have I made this year/last year.

Possibly the best way to answer this is to reproduce, once again, the following quotes from the most respected person on this forum. If his words are not enough, then I don't know what is....

I have made money with .tv every year since 2005.

I personally know 20 people who have made over $50,000 in .tv with a few over $200,000.

There are no bad extensions just bad domainers

 

[MillersCrossing]

Possibly the best way to answer this is to reproduce, once again, the following quotes from the most respected person on this forum. If his words are not enough, then I don't know what is....

I get a little uncomfortable to be honest when I hear someone fawning over other people. (twice in as many days)

Equity is a good guy, but his is one opinion. He does not own the rights to the future of .tv nor the past, nor does he claim too. (I hope!)

I would let Equity speak for himself. I havent seen him any time recently saying that he is expecting some huge revival in .tv any time soon.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

I get a little uncomfortable to be honest when I hear someone fawning over other people. (twice in as many days)

Equity is a good guy, but his is one opinion. He does not own the rights to the future of .tv nor the past, nor does he claim too. (I hope!)

I would let Equity speak for himself. I havent seen him any time recently saying that he is expecting some huge revival in .tv any time soon.

You're stating that people aren't making money. I am supplying direct quotes from a 'credible source'.

and even that is not good enough!

Perhaps you need to examine your own motivators/weaknesses in pursuing .TV - rather than trying to blame the extension.



As for the 'fawning' comment - nice, but weak!

 

[snoop]

Sounds like a longshot, then again if he got $3500 people would be saying how great RL is.

He has tried in the past to sell .tv's, including trying to deal with Verisign yet we have comments like "I'm quite surprised since Rick Latona's newsletters are anti-tv names." The reality is he markets whatever he thinks will sell, even .mx's. Indeed he looks to own this .tv himself.

Personally I think fortlauderdale.tv probably should be dropped at the renewal rate, maybe that will be what eventually happens, I guess well be seeing some price drops first. (expires in May)

 

[MillersCrossing]

Sounds like a longshot, then again if he got $3500 people would be saying how great RL is.

I doubt Rick has any preconceived notions about selling this domain. He surely remembers the .tv premos that he couldnt sell in his recent cctld auction.

.TV stood out like a very sore thumb.

He is trying to offload it at that price and I still doubt it will sell

In fact it may be worth one of the pump and dump (im invested in .tv upto the crack in my ass) crowd to buy it in the hopes of stimulating another false .tv dance. Much like a defibrillator to a heart attck victim in fact.

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As for the 'fawning' comment - nice, but weak!

Im glad. My aim is not hurt your feelings, but to provide my opinion on how I am calling .tv.

You love .tv, you believe in it, great!! Its your money. do as you will!!

And if you are right and the rest of the anti .tv community (almost everyone outside this subforum) wrong, then well done...you called the market perfectly.

 

[snoop]

He is trying to offload it at that price and I still doubt it will sell

Agree.

In fact it may be worth one of the pump and dump (im invested in .tv upto the crack in my ass) crowd to buy it in the hopes of stimulating another false .tv dance. Much like a defibrillator to a heart attck victim in fact.

I doubt that would be a good way to spend $3500. The "pump" attempts of the past generally centered around false claims of sales and offers, eg england.tv

 

[MillersCrossing]

I doubt that would be a good way to spend $3500. The "pump" attempts of the past generally centered around false claims of sales and offers, eg england.tv

Exactly - it was all false claims and offers - which is why it wont work this time round.

Someone is going to have to dip in their pockets this time and with verification, buyi up at least 10 premium geos and try and start a revival, especially if that person uses different names, so people think the market for .tv has returned....

Short of that, I cannot see anyone getting involved. This may not be called pump and dump, but you get what im saying

 

[snoop]

Someone is going to have to dip in their pockets this time and with verification, buyi up at least 10 premium geos and try and start a revival, especially if that person uses different names, so people think the market for .tv has returned....

Nobody is going to do that. The curtain has already been pulled up on this market.

 

[MillersCrossing]

Nobody is going to do that. The curtain has already been pulled up on this market.

Hey, what happened to the part about the guy getting caught without his trousers on..or something like that!!

 

[snoop]

Hey, what happened to the part about the guy getting caught without his trousers on..or something like that!!

I guess that is for subscribers only