L-L-L dot com values?

[GoPC]

What, if any, are the general values of a L-L-L dot com domains?

GoPC

 

[hyped]

I agree with you when you say that visually engaging sites will attract untargeted/accidental type-in traffic.

My point is merely that you as the website owner will need to research all possible meanings of your short domain, evaluate which one to go with, and then find some way to monetize the untargeted, illiterate viewers that you're hoping to find.

Regardless of how long that 13 year old girl browsed visually appealing websites that google returned for the search term "stars", those websites lose unless they've found some way to monetize that random visit. Furthermore, it doesn't matter whether those websites have short domain names, because in your example, the girl used google and did not type the domains in directly, correct?

In the grand scheme of things, I think it's futile to try to convert untargeted traffic, simply because you cannot pique everyone's interest, therefore you should concentrate your efforts on pleasing visitors who are actively seeking something. They're the most likely to follow through on whatever it is you're selling/promoting/whatever, in turn making you money.

 

[WORDSWORTH]

W-U-E.COM is available to register right now! The .net and .co.uk are taken

 

[vlad74]

W-U-E.COM is available to register right now! The .net and .co.uk are taken

already taken

 

[Nsane Domain]

My point is merely that you as the website owner will need to research all possible meanings of your short domain, evaluate which one to go with, and then find some way to monetize the untargeted, illiterate viewers that you're hoping to find.

I understand how you are seeing it. But, the point I'm attempting to make is the difference between the possibility of accidental traffic from millions and millions of people.

Here is yet another way to look at it.

I own the name r-r-z(.)com. When I get around to developing this site it could be "RailRoad Zone". The site would be visually engaging from the first page onward with videos of operating model train sets from around the world. So, your odds of finding untargeted traffic with r-r-z(.)com or rrz(.)com are far better than using railroadzone(.)com or railzone(.)com with illiterate/new users (while still keeping the targeted users via google or memory). If the people who stumbled upon this site finds it interesting and simple at the same time, they may share it with others all while digging deeper and deeper into the site. How could this not be monetised in some way? Its free traffic simply by using a short name instead of a long one while still reaching your target audience. There is a huge amount of "monetised traffic" that is unintentional and I believe there will be much more in the future by stating the previous posts.

Good Day!

Nsane

 

[thetruman]

You can't look at it through your eyes alone...Have you ever watched a 5 yr. old get online his/her first few times? How about a 58 yr. old? How about an Illiterate 58 yr. old? What do they "type"?

The reason I even thought about this is a simple word literacy.

My wife is a librarian and she pointed out to me that she recently witnessed a 13 year old girl that could not tell time, let alone read. Yet, she was able to find myspace and youtube. Do you really think she visits these sights to "read" what she is looking at? I doubt it. She simply enjoys looking at the videos on youtube and finding her "friends" on myspace and is able to do this because she recognizes "Mandy Jones" by repetitive association. If this person is looking for the latest "celebrity gossip" is she going to type this into google? Probably not because she has no idea how to spell it. Instead she will type "hot" or "stars" because it is a simple word she may know by association. Therefore, the "traffic" she generates will not be be targeted correctly to her for "celebrity gossip" and she may give "untargeted traffic" to a visually engaging website about "stars" in the sky, not Hollywood. If see decides she likes the site's pictures or graphics she may stay for a while. Try googling "stars" and see what google gives you.

After this young lady left the computer, my wife checked the history menu out of curiosity. what did she see?

1)myspace
2)dugd
3)tshrts
4)omoha
5)hot_mail
6)you_tube
7)trtall
8)txstv
9)anmals
10)zoos

She shared this only because she gets sick of me being on the computer and we both have large questions about the world in general.

UNESCO's definition of literacy is: "the ability to identify, understand, interpret, create, communicate, compute, and use printed and written materials associated with varying contexts".

There are 38 counties on this planet with adult literacy rates below 70%, with most of these coming from Africa and Asia. Bangladesh (52.5%), after many years of military coups, found democratic roots in 1991. Reletive stability as well as economic progress ensued with GDP almost doubling per capita. Bangladesh has 150,000,000 people, but, roughly 72,000,000 people there are illiterate. How will they comminicate once online? by typing long sentences they cannot understand, or short relitively simple burst of letters and symbols they know? How will you target them best? With a "bangladesh micro loan" texted website, or a visually engaging website for "taka", their currencey? After they find out all they want to know about short "familiar" words/graphics, they will likely move on to other SHORT RANDOM SITES THAT ARE VISUALLY ENGAGING.

Not all traffic is targeted and it will become even less targeted when more illiterate people come on line...That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :p

Nsane

hello, you are too nice to have a discussion :yell:
however:
1)if somebody doesn't know how to read I strongly doubt they own or use a computer (most illitterate people in the 38 contries you mention are in developing countries where someones is happy when can put together lunch and dinner (imagine using a pc)
2)assuming they can spell just few words they would know EXACTLY how to spell the word they are looking for, and they would take all the time needed to be sure is correct
3)Assuming that all of them have a pc and try 100 different combination a day each, the probability that the input your random word is extremely low.
Said that, is good anyway to have some brainstorming, just for the chance of getting new ideas and foster discusion.
Take care!

 

[dag]

Not that it's an L-L-L.com, but I just thought I'd mention for those who may have missed it that H-IT.com sold for $2,642 (as mentioned in DNJournal this week). Certainly doesn't hurt L-L-Ls!

 

[Nsane Domain]

hello, you are too nice to have a discussion :yell:

Yeah right...tell that to my wife and kids...and while your at it--> my co-workers, neighbors, parents, brothers and everyone else who knows me.

1)if somebody doesn't know how to read I strongly doubt they own or use a computer (most illitterate people in the 38 contries you mention are in developing countries where someones is happy when can put together lunch and dinner (imagine using a pc)

Agreed---> lunch and dinner come first for now. How about 6 yrs. from now?

There are many illiterates using computers in U.S. right now. Many countries such as Bangladesh are becoming more and more stable and developing rapidly. The "outside" world is coming to these places sooner than most think. Will it be easier to get and education for older illiterates or to push "power" and "enter" on a net device? When their children leave the "village" how will they stay in touch with home in the next decade? Not by donkey is my guess.

4.7 billion people are over the age of 15.
* ONLY 14% (658 million) online now.
* 86% (4 billion) not online yet.

4.7 billion people are over the age of 15.
* 18% (846 million) illiterate.
-About 20% of those not online yet (800 million).
* It will become easier and cheaper to buy a simple net device and learn 15 strokes than invest the time and money for an education in the next 10 years for these people (look at the last 10 yrs). PERIOD.

1.8 billion people under the age of 15 yet to realize the potential of internet.
* Many will be illiterate.

2)assuming they can spell just few words they would know EXACTLY how to spell the word they are looking for, and they would take all the time needed to be sure is correct

And after they use these few simple words exactly...then what? combining the short words? Typing paragraphs into google (someone will surely point them to google)? SHORT BURSTS OF THE KEYBOARD WITH FAMILIAR LETTERS? Maybe a preloaded "local dialect" menu for them to choose from (which is a great idea by the way)? Who knows...but people need to think about it.

3)Assuming that all of them have a pc and try 100 different combination a day each, the probability that the input your random word is extremely low.
Said that, is good anyway to have some brainstorming, just for the chance of getting new ideas and foster discusion.

I completely agree that the chance of them finding one particular site is remote to say the least. But to quote the man in the middle of your avatar from the movie "Dumb and Dumber"..."Sooo...your saying there is a chance". LOL

I was simply using it as an example to show that the chances are for greater for a short name than a longer one to receive untargeted traffic.

Thanks for the input!
Have a prosperous Day!

Nsane

Not that it's an L-L-L.com, but I just thought I'd mention for those who may have missed it that H-IT.com sold for $2,642 (as mentioned in DNJournal this week). Certainly doesn't hurt L-L-Ls!

Aha...nice sale. :gn:

Probably will be used a little different than h-i-t would be because a corporation will like it for "Honeywell-IT" or "Halliburton-IT". "IT" being Information Technology. The hyphen breaks it up nicely here.

I guess it could mean "HUMP-IT" or "HEMP-IT" also. LOL

 

[DnEbook]

i have

j-o-b.me
h-o-t.me

what do you think the .com equals are worth ?

 

[dag]

i have

j-o-b.me
h-o-t.me

what do you think the .com equals are worth ?

In a domain auction, at least in a better economy, high $xxx, probably (for the .com versions only, that is). Certainly more to an end user, though!

 

[ecigs.net]

You can't look at it through your eyes alone...Have you ever watched a 5 yr. old get online his/her first few times? How about a 58 yr. old? How about an Illiterate 58 yr. old? What do they "type"?

The reason I even thought about this is a simple word literacy.

My wife is a librarian and she pointed out to me that she recently witnessed a 13 year old girl that could not tell time, let alone read. Yet, she was able to find myspace and youtube. Do you really think she visits these sights to "read" what she is looking at? I doubt it. She simply enjoys looking at the videos on youtube and finding her "friends" on myspace and is able to do this because she recognizes "Mandy Jones" by repetitive association. If this person is looking for the latest "celebrity gossip" is she going to type this into google? Probably not because she has no idea how to spell it. Instead she will type "hot" or "stars" because it is a simple word she may know by association. Therefore, the "traffic" she generates will not be be targeted correctly to her for "celebrity gossip" and she may give "untargeted traffic" to a visually engaging website about "stars" in the sky, not Hollywood. If see decides she likes the site's pictures or graphics she may stay for a while. Try googling "stars" and see what google gives you.

After this young lady left the computer, my wife checked the history menu out of curiosity. what did she see?

1)myspace
2)dugd
3)tshrts
4)omoha
5)hot_mail
6)you_tube
7)trtall
8)txstv
9)anmals
10)zoos

She shared this only because she gets sick of me being on the computer and we both have large questions about the world in general.

UNESCO's definition of literacy is: "the ability to identify, understand, interpret, create, communicate, compute, and use printed and written materials associated with varying contexts".

There are 38 counties on this planet with adult literacy rates below 70%, with most of these coming from Africa and Asia. Bangladesh (52.5%), after many years of military coups, found democratic roots in 1991. Reletive stability as well as economic progress ensued with GDP almost doubling per capita. Bangladesh has 150,000,000 people, but, roughly 72,000,000 people there are illiterate. How will they comminicate once online? by typing long sentences they cannot understand, or short relitively simple burst of letters and symbols they know? How will you target them best? With a "bangladesh micro loan" texted website, or a visually engaging website for "taka", their currencey? After they find out all they want to know about short "familiar" words/graphics, they will likely move on to other SHORT RANDOM SITES THAT ARE VISUALLY ENGAGING.

Not all traffic is targeted and it will become even less targeted when more illiterate people come on line...That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :p

Nsane

Thanks for explaining your point. I was really confused at first. Now that I know what you mean, and the logic behind it, I still have to say that I am unable to agree with the hypothesis.

Two points bother me: the stars and the list.

I admit stars shows mostly astronomy sites, but that is randomness in a totally different way than you first suggested. You wrote, "they will type in random letter or symbols on their keyboards first". The STARS example is Stumbleupon and Google- Feeling Lucky randomness, both of which are not really random at all in the way you originally suggest. Stars is a specific word, there is nothing random about her choice of letters. If she had typed srta, you would be correct. Instead of supporting randomness, your example says that quality short words will continue to rise in value, especially if the new users are uneducated or uncomfortable with the language they are using (because they'll stick to easy, short words). Furthermore, if she had typed, star, she would have gotten celebrity information in the first slot: starmagazine. That would mean that she wanted celebrity information, typed star and got starmagazine. That's about as exact a search as you can get.

Now look at your list again.

1)myspace = myspace
2)dugd = dugg/digg (probably trying to type dugged, so she must understand a little English)
3)tshrts = T-Shirts
4)omoha = Omaha
5)hot_mail = hotmail
6)you_tube = youtube
7)trtall = Probably Tryall. The T is next to Y on an English keyboard.
8)txstv = ?
9)anmals = animals
10)zoos = zoos

Of the 10, 8 are obviously non-random attempts at getting information. I bet the next time that she tries tshrts, anmals, dugd, & omoha, she'll get the spelling right. As for the two unknowns, trtall/txstv she was probably trying to sound out some words and got them wrong.

Even if these two were totally random searches, 8 out of 10 were quite specific. That looks to me like the computer will teach people how to read and the random attempts will fade as knowledge of language grows. Random typing will be quickly replaced by the correct use of language. The computer will bridge this knowledge gap quickly, IMO.

Illiterate + Computer = Improved Literacy.

Would you agree that people are pretty much the same most everywhere? How often do you randomly type in words on a daily basis compared to how often you use specific, literal terms? I think most people would say "never" or "rarely" do they type random letters and symbols in searches. To assume other people are going to be happy with randomness is to expect less of them than we do of ourselves.

In conclusion the idea that random letters like fdztetq, jdhfuz, uewzru, dhfgz, jhdfue, sjdfhj are going to become more valuable as more illiterate people come online is still, IMO, unproven and underestimates the thirst for knowledge people have when exposed to literacy. Give people knowledge and they'll hunger for more knowledge.

What do you thin NSane? Did I make any sense or is it all rubbish?

 

[Lakshan]

y-z-a.com - Available To Register

 

[Standout!]

Took w-k-k.com off the drop today. Should I have? Hmmm....

 

[Andrei P.]

v-i-c .com $260 Sedo
s-s-m .com $59 Snapnames

 

[Chris.]

v-i-c .com $260 Sedo
s-s-m .com $59 Snapnames

Thanks ergo adding to bluebecker.com

 

[Nsane Domain]

s-s-m .com $59 Snapnames

I like that price. I wish I would have seen this one.

 

[dag]

My pickup of C-U-Z.com at TDNAM last week for a mere $10 completed today...

 

[nicedomains]

Nice grab Cuz......

I have hand regged my last few pickups including one N-N-N

 

[dag]

Nice grab Cuz......

I have hand regged my last few pickups including one N-N-N

So I guess a few of them are slipping through the cracks after all...but they certainly don't last long!

 

[D0MA1N]

Z-H-N (dot)COM

is available
:gn:

 

[Geeves]

Z-H-N (dot)COM

is available
:gn:

Cheers picked that up - rep added