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I'm new to this.

If I place a backorder on both GNAME and Dropcatch, wouldn't they both be smart to backorder the domain in their company account at the competing website too, even though they both have 500-1,500 registrars each?

If so, doesn't that mean placing a backorder on both 100% guarantees that the domain will go to auction?

Surely someone has personal experience here and can help me understand.

Thanks
 
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No, it's not dumb, but I'd curb your expectations.

1. Gname has bid options that are slightly cheaper than DropCatch.
2. DropCatch does occasionally lose to Gname, Snapnames, etc.

Anything especially great typically goes to auction no matter where you grab it, though. So to catch something this way that you'd have otherwise have missed is probably only realistic if there were a couple of bidders only. Anything greater, they'll trigger an auction at DropCatch or Gname all the same.

I've had that scenario work out, personally, all of one time. I only bother if it's a domain that *I* really want, but also suspect that it won't attract 1000 other bidders. And usually, I'm not that attached to a particular name.
 
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I just had a name I had backordered at NameJet and Dropcatch grabbed by Gname.
 
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I'm new to this.

If I place a backorder on both GNAME and Dropcatch, wouldn't they both be smart to backorder the domain in their company account at the competing website too, even though they both have 500-1,500 registrars each?

If so, doesn't that mean placing a backorder on both 100% guarantees that the domain will go to auction?

Surely someone has personal experience here and can help me understand.

Thanks


Hello, and welcome to GNAME! Thank you very much for your insightful question.

We understand that getting started with domain backordering can be a bit confusing, especially when dealing with multiple major platforms. The questions youโ€™ve raised show great foresight.

At GNAME, if multiple users place a backorder on the same domain, it will enter a public auction, where everyone has a fair opportunity to bid. So while placing backorders on both platforms may increase the likelihood of the domain going to auction, it also increases your chances of participating and securing the name.

GNAME offers a flexible and cost-effective domain backordering service, making it suitable for both newcomers and experienced investors. Compared to other platforms, our starting prices for backorders and auctions are generally more affordable, helping users stay within budget while increasing their success rate. Backed by a rapidly expanding registrar network and a high-performance catching system, GNAME is committed to being an industry leader in speed and reliability. Our auction process is also highly transparent to ensure you can participate confidently and strategically.

Weโ€™re here to support you every step of the way in your domain backordering journey. If you have any further questions or would like help with your first backorder, please feel free to contact our customer service team โ€” weโ€™d be happy to assist you.

Thank you again for choosing GNAME, and we wish you the best of luck in securing your ideal domain!

Best regards,
Gname Team
 
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Gname also bids through Dropcatch so you will be competing with yourself. Best to backorder through gname only AFAIK.
 
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I would assume yes but I be rarely placing a bid i be waiting for delete and I register it couple days later if available
 
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Hello, and welcome to GNAME! Thank you very much for your insightful question.

We understand that getting started with domain backordering can be a bit confusing, especially when dealing with multiple major platforms. The questions youโ€™ve raised show great foresight.

At GNAME, if multiple users place a backorder on the same domain, it will enter a public auction, where everyone has a fair opportunity to bid. So while placing backorders on both platforms may increase the likelihood of the domain going to auction, it also increases your chances of participating and securing the name.

GNAME offers a flexible and cost-effective domain backordering service, making it suitable for both newcomers and experienced investors. Compared to other platforms, our starting prices for backorders and auctions are generally more affordable, helping users stay within budget while increasing their success rate. Backed by a rapidly expanding registrar network and a high-performance catching system, GNAME is committed to being an industry leader in speed and reliability. Our auction process is also highly transparent to ensure you can participate confidently and strategically.

Weโ€™re here to support you every step of the way in your domain backordering journey. If you have any further questions or would like help with your first backorder, please feel free to contact our customer service team โ€” weโ€™d be happy to assist you.

Thank you again for choosing GNAME, and we wish you the best of luck in securing your ideal domain!

Best regards,
Gname Team
This doesn't answer the question.

Gname also bids through Dropcatch so you will be competing with yourself. Best to backorder through gname only AFAIK.
This is my actual question. Thanks James.

@GNAME.COM

1. To confirm, are you also placing backorders for your customers in a company Dropcatch account or any other third party dropcatching account? Or does it depend on which "Channel" i choose when placing it at GNAME? ie: Channel 1 = dropcatch.com. Channel 2 = dynadot. Channel 4 = catched.com ? Is there a list somewhere?

2. If I backorder a domain at GNAME using Channel 8, and another GNAME customer uses Channel 1, it still goes to auction and they have no advantage, right?
 
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This doesn't answer the question.


This is my actual question. Thanks James.

@GNAME.COM

1. To confirm, are you also placing backorders for your customers in a company Dropcatch account or any other third party dropcatching account? Or does it depend on which "Channel" i choose when placing it at GNAME? ie: Channel 1 = dropcatch.com. Channel 2 = dynadot. Channel 4 = catched.com ? Is there a list somewhere?

2. If I backorder a domain at GNAME using Channel 8, and another GNAME customer uses Channel 1, it still goes to auction and they have no advantage, right?

Great question. Would guess only Channel 1 given the Dropcatch fee is $59. Hopefully we can get clarification on platforms used at each level.
 
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Do they actually *place* backorders in other services or do they just *bid* in public auctions at other dropcatchers? Or maybe it depends on the perceived quality of the domain? If gname has 2+ orders on a domain then it will place the backorder at all venues to make sure it's secured?
 
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This doesn't answer the question.


This is my actual question. Thanks James.

@GNAME.COM

1. To confirm, are you also placing backorders for your customers in a company Dropcatch account or any other third party dropcatching account? Or does it depend on which "Channel" i choose when placing it at GNAME? ie: Channel 1 = dropcatch.com. Channel 2 = dynadot. Channel 4 = catched.com ? Is there a list somewhere?

2. If I backorder a domain at GNAME using Channel 8, and another GNAME customer uses Channel 1, it still goes to auction and they have no advantage, right?
Great question. Would guess only Channel 1 given the Dropcatch fee is $59. Hopefully we can get clarification on platforms used at each level.
Hi,

Great questions! Here are the clarifications:

  1. Backorder Channels & Platforms:
    Yes, we use over 500 dropcatching interfaces to help secure domains for our customers. The actual platform used depends on the "Channel" you select when placing a backorder at GNAME.

  2. Multiple Users Using Different Channels:
    Yes, if multiple customers place a backorder for the same domain, regardless of which Channel they used, the domain will go to public auction if successfully caught.

    Best regards,
    GNAME Support Team
 
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Hi,

Great questions! Here are the clarifications:

  1. Backorder Channels & Platforms:
    Yes, we use over 500 dropcatching interfaces to help secure domains for our customers. The actual platform used depends on the "Channel" you select when placing a backorder at GNAME.

  2. Multiple Users Using Different Channels:
    Yes, if multiple customers place a backorder for the same domain, regardless of which Channel they used, the domain will go to public auction if successfully caught.

    Best regards,
    GNAME Support Team
The information on #2 seems to be wrong...

I placed my first backorder on the platform for a name that dropped today... I saw the domain was caught by GNAME from the whois info... and all day it had the status "in backorder"... and now 8 hours later the status has changed to "Other users won the bid directly for $16.00"..

So it looks like someone who places a backorder on a higher Channel automatically wins the domain...

Unless there was an auction that took place during that 8 hours that I didn't see? I don't think so

Please clarify what happened.
 
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The information on #2 seems to be wrong...

I placed my first backorder on the platform for a name that dropped today... I saw the domain was caught by GNAME from the whois info... and all day it had the status "in backorder"... and now 8 hours later the status has changed to "Other users won the bid directly for $16.00"..

So it looks like someone who places a backorder on a higher Channel automatically wins the domain...

Unless there was an auction that took place during that 8 hours that I didn't see? I don't think so

Please clarify what happened.
This is written under the "Domain Backorder Guidelines" on the Backorder and Dropcatch page:

"Should multiple parties backorder the same domain at the same price and we successfully secure it, an auction will be conducted to determine the winner."

Please clarify.
 
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I placed my first backorder on the platform for a name that dropped today... I saw the domain was caught by GNAME from the whois info... and all day it had the status "in backorder"... and now 8 hours later the status has changed to "Other users won the bid directly for $16.00"..

So it looks like someone who places a backorder on a higher Channel automatically wins the domain...
I had this happen to me today too.. So if someone backorders using a more expensive channel, they win the domain without an auction if they are the only one to do use that channel? @GNAME.COM
 
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I had this happen to me today too.. So if someone backorders using a more expensive channel, they win the domain without an auction if they are the only one to do use that channel? @GNAME.COM
Yea they will send you a "dropcatch report" email that gives more clues as to how it works:

Quoted from the email:

"If too many 'dropcatch lost' or 'others won', please don't be discouraged and increase your backorder price appropriately, you will not be disappointed next time!
There are 4 types of dropcatch results:
1. Directly won (single-person backorder or single-person backorder the highest channel)
2. Domain auction (system successfully dropcatched the domain but there are multiple people backorder it with same price, then domain auction is required)
3. Dropcatch lost 4. Others won (someone's backorder price is higher than you, so he wins the domain directly)"


#4 Says it pretty bluntly that the highest backorder price wins. Unfortunately I made my backorder following the info given in this thread and lost the domain.
 
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If multiple people bid in the same channel as you then it will enter auction. Say you went for the $13 channel, and someone also went $13, then it will go to auction (if Gname successfully caught the name). However, if you went the $11.50 route and the other guy went $13, then they would win. So, in order to avoid an auction in this situation, you'd have to go for the $15 channel or higher. The trick is in knowing how much the domain is worth, and how much other people are likely going to want to pay for it so you can pay the least amount of money and still win the domain.

Ofc, this doesn't matter if Dropcatch.com wins the drop, because unless you went for the $25 channel or higher, you're not going to win regardless. In these cases I've found that the $25 channel and higher will at least let you enter an auction to compete against those that used dropcatch.com, snapnames or another dropcatcher.

Like others have said though, do not enter a $25 or higher channel and also catch a name with dropcatch otherwise you will be competing with yourself. A cheap $9.50 channel might have secured you the name if there were no other interested parties, but if you try to catch it on both Dropcatch as well as Gname then you would actually be sending it auction and open it up for the public to bid on too.

Hope this all made sense!
 
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If multiple people bid in the same channel as you then it will enter auction. Say you went for the $13 channel, and someone also went $13, then it will go to auction (if Gname successfully caught the name). However, if you went the $11.50 route and the other guy went $13, then they would win. So, in order to avoid an auction in this situation, you'd have to go for the $15 channel or higher. The trick is in knowing how much the domain is worth, and how much other people are likely going to want to pay for it so you can pay the least amount of money and still win the domain.

Ofc, this doesn't matter if Dropcatch.com wins the drop, because unless you went for the $25 channel or higher, you're not going to win regardless. In these cases I've found that the $25 channel and higher will at least let you enter an auction to compete against those that used dropcatch.com, snapnames or another dropcatcher.

Like others have said though, do not enter a $25 or higher channel and also catch a name with dropcatch otherwise you will be competing with yourself. A cheap $9.50 channel might have secured you the name if there were no other interested parties, but if you try to catch it on both Dropcatch as well as Gname then you would actually be sending it auction and open it up for the public to bid on too.

Hope this all made sense!
Great info thanks alot for that
 
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Yea they will send you a "dropcatch report" email that gives more clues as to how it works:

Quoted from the email:

"If too many 'dropcatch lost' or 'others won', please don't be discouraged and increase your backorder price appropriately, you will not be disappointed next time!
There are 4 types of dropcatch results:
1. Directly won (single-person backorder or single-person backorder the highest channel)
2. Domain auction (system successfully dropcatched the domain but there are multiple people backorder it with same price, then domain auction is required)
3. Dropcatch lost 4. Others won (someone's backorder price is higher than you, so he wins the domain directly)"


#4 Says it pretty bluntly that the highest backorder price wins. Unfortunately I made my backorder following the info given in this thread and lost the domain.
Hi easypeasy,

Thank you for your feedback! Weโ€™ve since revised the wording in the dropcatch report email to make the process clearer for everyone. We truly appreciate your input and are continuously working to improve the user experience. If you have any further suggestions, feel free to let us know!


Best regards,
Gname Support Team
 
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I had this happen to me today too.. So if someone backorders using a more expensive channel, they win the domain without an auction if they are the only one to do use that channel? @GNAME.COM
Hi poorguy3498,

Yes, thatโ€™s correct โ€” if there is only one person using the highest channel to backorder, they will win the domain directly without going to auction. Thanks for your question!

Best regards,
Gname Support Team
 
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I have unfortunately lost countless backorders made via dropcatch to gname. I guess these would of gone to auction had I back ordered via gname anyway.

I generally backorder via discount club which I guess doesn't get priority backorder channels.
 
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I have unfortunately lost countless backorders made via dropcatch to gname. I guess these would of gone to auction had I back ordered via gname anyway.

I generally backorder via discount club which I guess doesn't get priority backorder channels.
how do you mean they would've gone to auction?
 
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