Is .US dead (??)

[Yong1]

Is anyone still investing in .US domains?

Has anyone sold any .US domains lately?

Where would you sell them?

Obviously in the .US .com is king too, but I have seen at times .us being used by different companies.

 

[JB Lions]

So you see reg numbers dropping, sales dropping, you look at that as growing stronger? And in a world full of new gtlds, you expect that one day they will go boom? That's logical to you?

 

[Shea]

So you see reg?

Where were you last month?

 

[JB Lions]

Where were you last month?

You mean on 5/28, that 1 day? So you're basing everything on 1 day of sales from 1 person? How about those other 364 days of the year?

Earlier in the thread you mentioned you had some of the same quality, I looked, you don't. Somebody asked you to list them. Instead of backing up your post, you called the person a knat. How about putting some up for 7 day auctions at GD and test the market, put up reserves to protect your names if you think they might not get the bids you want. You game?

Just out of curiosity, what year is this .us boom supposed to take place?

For your response below, again:

Where were you last month?

Yes, you based that off of 1 days sales from 1 person. 5/28 was the last month you're talking about.

 

[Shea]

@JB Lions
I'm basing everything on this one day? Don't think so. That's ridicules. Its a great point and case though. That's why I brought it up.

The fact that you absolutely have nothing good to say at all about .us is a red flag. You paint this picture of the usTLD as totally worthless with no hope.. This portrayal obviously isn't true. Your opinions seem bias and dogmatic, grown out of your own disappointment and failure with the usTLD. You shouldn't be listened to or taken seriously... honestly.

You cannot disregard 5/28 entirely, can you? So what, you think 5/28 means nothing at all in regards to usTLD? And you assume I think it means everything? How absolute we are... and concrete. This is not so... And I can't help you anymore if you don't see that.

 

[TRY]

What is that they say about renewals being a sign of strength.

 

[JB Lions]

What is that they say about renewals being a sign of strength.

Going from 1.8 m to 1.6m, is going in what direction? These started dropping in 2014 as expected when new gtlds started coming out. But supposedly a boom is coming, Shea won't tell us the year tho.

 

[TRY]

Going from 1.8 m to 1.6m, is going in what direction? These started dropping in 2014 as expected when new gtlds started coming out. But supposedly a boom is coming, Shea won't tell us the year tho.

Let's focus on the past 12 months since their is more relevant data, So renewals are up , deletions going down, and new registrations steady. Right? Right.

 

[JB Lions]

Ok, past 12 months. I'm pretty sure going from 1,785,986 to 1,713,641 is going down. That's a drop of over 72,000. Even your graph above shows more deletions than registrations, which results in a............. drop

 

[TRY]

Ok, past 12 months. I'm pretty sure going from 1,785,986 to 1,713,641 is going down. That's a drop of over 72,000. Even your graph above shows more deletions than registrations, which results in a............. drop

Did you intentionally disregard mentioning the renewals data in the chart?
Why would you do that considering renewals is one of if not the most important factor in an extensions strength.

 

[JB Lions]

No, it's most likely anniversary date renewals, it tends to be higher closer to renewal date. It'll probably be less than 87,000 in the coming months. I'm sure if you post a chart a few months from now, it'll bear that out. You see how it got high right before May? The month of those 5/28 sales? Anniversary date. You reg a domain, you don't renew the same month or the month after, you tend to renew right before it expires. That's my guess.

Both our charts (3 different charts actually) show dropping reg numbers, sorry. As my earlier chart shows, it's been dropping since 2014.

 

[defnil]

No, it's most likely anniversary date renewals, it tends to be higher closer to renewal date. It'll probably be less than 87,000 in the coming months. I'm sure if you post a chart a few months from now, it'll bear that out. You see how it got high right before May? The month of those 5/28 sales? Anniversary date. You reg a domain, you don't renew the same month or the month after, you tend to renew right before it expires. That's my guess.

Both our charts (3 different charts actually) show dropping reg numbers, sorry. As my earlier chart shows, it's been dropping since 2014.

I'm quite new here and not familar with .us. If I'm not wrong there are some restrictions for .us registration (thus I have no .us domains).

Disclaimer: I am not joining the dispute, just curious.

 

[JB Lions]

I'm quite new here and not familar with .us. If I'm not wrong there are some restrictions for .us registration (thus I have no .us domains).

Disclaimer: I am not joining the dispute, just curious.

Yep, you can find them here - http://www.neustar.us/the-ustld-nexus-requirements/

 

[defnil]

Yep, you can find them here

Thank you for the information, sir.

 

[GoKaizen]

I don't consider .NL a fair comparison. While .US and .NL are the oldest ccTLDs, .NL is open registration.

.CA is a better comparison. Marketed and used in Canada.

That's it, use the current registration numbers vs population count, then you can compare TLD adoption rates between different countries. For example there would be approx 1 .us registered for every 200 Americans. In .nl it would be one name for 3 people. Now you can see the gap in popularity.

If .us was as popular as .nl, it would be as big as .com.

 

[TRY]

I don't consider .NL a fair comparison. While .US and .NL are the oldest ccTLDs, .NL is open registration.

.CA is a better comparison. Marketed and used in Canada.

Except for the fact .ca allows privacy registration.

 

[GoKaizen]

If .US allowed privacy would it add 700,000 - 800,000 domains? Match .CA 2.5ish million regs? Mmm... probably not.

I would buy/develop .US over any new gtld.

 

[Shea]

[QUOTE="JGoing from 1.8 m to 1.6m, is going in what direction?.

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So what??? Jb these are investor drops. People like you. Not end user drops.

 

[Kate]

I don't consider .NL a fair comparison. While .US and .NL are the oldest ccTLDs, .NL is open registration.

Most .nl are registered by Dutch nonetheless. As for .be I once saw on the registry websites that about 70% were owned by Belgian persons/entities. It's logical, ccTLDs are usually owned by registrants from the host country.
In rebranded TLDs like .tv .me .co of course it's different.

If you would like, deduct the percentage of domains under foreign ownership, the penetration rates still remain very good and far above .us.

 

[Shea]

Drops are to be expected IMO.
Drops by investors do not concern me.
For example, if a million @JB Lions drop a bunch of bad .us extensions... I could care less.
If it were drops by end-users, that would concern me.
The usTLD more than any other new gTLD is extremely unique.
As I've said, as it continues to age, reaches new end users, policy loosens,
and the public becomes more aware... the value will increase

 

[Shea]

I guess estibot.com should value all .us as zero....according to @JB Lions
Jb you should contact the estibot.com and show them your statistics so they can fix the estibot.com algorithm... its way off from zero dollars.