Is Frank still buying?

[End User King]

I'm going to throw out a question I've had for awhile. I own a little over 20
domains in which my extension is greater than the extensions he owns.
Example: I own the .com where he owns the .net, or in some cases the .org.

I also have several domains in where I own the plural (legit plurals) and he
owns the singular version. I've come across this several times in my domain
searches and it's not limited to him. There's also Most Wanted Domains, Domain
Highway, and Portfolio Brains among others.

Is it worth pitching domains to such large portfolio owners?

Thanks in Advance

 

[-Adam-]

According to this article:

http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/605663-frank-schilling-interview.html

He is still buying domain names. As for pitching to him it's always worth a shot. If you don't try you'll never know and probably the worst that could happen is him saying "no thanks."

 

[Robbie]

I'm going to throw out a question I've had for awhile. I own a little over 20
domains in which my extension is greater than the extensions he owns.
Example: I own the .com where he owns the .net, or in some cases the .org.

I also have several domains in where I own the plural (legit plurals) and he
owns the singular version. I've come across this several times in my domain
searches and it's not limited to him. There's also Most Wanted Domains, Domain
Highway, and Portfolio Brains among others.

Is it worth pitching domains to such large portfolio owners?

Thanks in Advance

I believe all the big players are buying but at Domainer prices - They want them Cheap - they wont pay enduser prices or domain auction prices these guys are looking for firesale prices, names that you need to sell for buttons!

I know some players if you are interested in selling let me know and I can speak to some people for you.

 

[End User King]

Thanks Rob and Adam. Another thing I've noticed is alot of .tv domains
seem to be forwarding to Carlsondaly.tv. A little weird to me.

 

[john_karr]

Good luck!

 

[localexperts]

Thanks Rob and Adam. Another thing I've noticed is alot of .tv domains
seem to be forwarding to Carlsondaly.tv. A little weird to me.

Any DOT TV domain purchased from ENOM is defaulted to Carson Daly. This is a result of Enom's failed Channel Me project - where Carson Daly was the spokesperson. Carson's sister was the marketing director for DOT TV premiums.

 

[Jaco]

Owning a "better" TLD than a Frank Schilling name is a pretty good sign that you have a good name, but there are a few things to consider, here....

1) If you've ever read his blog, you understand that the guy is almost entirely "value" oriented. There is a 0% chance he would pay anything resembling an end-user price for a name.

2) You have to take into consideration that you're dealing with someone whose portfolio has such breadth, any individual name he owns is probably viewed as a microscopic part in a larger earning machine (save for his top 1%, or whatever). Unlike typical 'end users' who may be inclined to purchase better TLDs of names they already own for business reasons, and unlike "domainers" who have a lot of thought invested in the names they own, someone like Frank Schilling views domains as a raw commodity product (he has expressed as much), thus there is probably no 'excitement' factor when you offer to sell him a keyword name that isn't spectacular. To you or I, your names might be viewed as fantastic. To a guy who owns hundreds of thousands of "fantastic names", it's probably not even worth a 'courtesy decline' email. (again, presuming that the name isn't a six figure name, or whatever)

3) Given the level at which he operates in this business, smaller acquisitions of relatively insignificant names probably isn't worth his time, unless you're practically giving them away. Look at it like this.
None of us know what Frank Schillings hourly earning rate is, but we do know that its high, and unlike most people, it's running 24/7. In order to get the attention of guys like this, you usually have to offer them a chance to profit at a rate that is worth as much or more than the value of their time. To get the attention of a guy like him, you'd have to be offering something "special" - either a large portfolio of names, or great names at rock bottom prices.

Again, all of this is speculation and my 'poker player' read, but I'd definitely bet on it.

 

[localexperts]

Frank also probably has a plan or a formula he applies to domain acquisitions. When I post some of my acquisitions on facebook, I get a host of domainers offering domains within the same vertical. The problem is that just because I buy a domain in weddings or home improvement or fitness or nutrition or elective surgery or mental health doesn't mean that any domain in those verticals would fit my strategy.

Like the Cylons from BSG, most successful domains have a plan and they tend to stick with their plan.

 

[tricolorro]

I'm going to throw out a question I've had for awhile. I own a little over 20
domains in which my extension is greater than the extensions he owns.
Example: I own the .com where he owns the .net, or in some cases the .org.

I also have several domains in where I own the plural (legit plurals) and he
owns the singular version. I've come across this several times in my domain
searches and it's not limited to him. There's also Most Wanted Domains, Domain
Highway, and Portfolio Brains among others.

Is it worth pitching domains to such large portfolio owners?

Thanks in Advance

:hi:

Did you read the recently released interview Paul Sloan did with Frank Schilling?

You should if you haven't.

It may answer your question.

Link here:
Frank Schilling Interview by paul sloan | Paul Sloan's

 

[exponent]

Frank also probably has a plan or a formula he applies to domain acquisitions.

It took me two years to develop my formula through trial and error. Often, my network isn't profitable on a per-site basis, but as a whole. The synergy obtained from a well pieced puzzle will often produce better results than one or two super-domains.

 

[intheflow]

I personally wouldn't worry about it, or necessarily want to pitch to such people.

If you own the .com then you will naturally pitch to the owners of the other extensions regardless of who they are. It doesn't matter who they are, it only matters if they will buy your domain for a price which allows you a profit. The only reason to even think about it, is so you can change your approach/pricing to fit the potential buyer.

 

[End User King]

Thanks a bunch!

Owning a "better" TLD than a Frank Schilling name is a pretty good sign that you have a good name, but there are a few things to consider, here....

1) If you've ever read his blog, you understand that the guy is almost entirely "value" oriented. There is a 0% chance he would pay anything resembling an end-user price for a name.

2) You have to take into consideration that you're dealing with someone whose portfolio has such breadth, any individual name he owns is probably viewed as a microscopic part in a larger earning machine (save for his top 1%, or whatever). Unlike typical 'end users' who may be inclined to purchase better TLDs of names they already own for business reasons, and unlike "domainers" who have a lot of thought invested in the names they own, someone like Frank Schilling views domains as a raw commodity product (he has expressed as much), thus there is probably no 'excitement' factor when you offer to sell him a keyword name that isn't spectacular. To you or I, your names might be viewed as fantastic. To a guy who owns hundreds of thousands of "fantastic names", it's probably not even worth a 'courtesy decline' email. (again, presuming that the name isn't a six figure name, or whatever)

3) Given the level at which he operates in this business, smaller acquisitions of relatively insignificant names probably isn't worth his time, unless you're practically giving them away. Look at it like this.
None of us know what Frank Schillings hourly earning rate is, but we do know that its high, and unlike most people, it's running 24/7. In order to get the attention of guys like this, you usually have to offer them a chance to profit at a rate that is worth as much or more than the value of their time. To get the attention of a guy like him, you'd have to be offering something "special" - either a large portfolio of names, or great names at rock bottom prices.

Again, all of this is speculation and my 'poker player' read, but I'd definitely bet on it.