Entice an owner to sell?

[Ray]

Today I contacted a domain owner to see if he was interested in selling a domain to my company. The user insisted that the domain was not for sale.

It has been registered about 5 years with no business, or website attached to it. I report on the owner states that he owns several other domains so my initial thought was that he was in the domain market.

Any ideas on how I can convince him?

 

[Makis.TV]

Yeap, make him an offer he cant resist.

 

[Ray]

I offered xxxx

 

[lincolndsp]

offering $9999 would entice more than $1150 for example?
answer to your question is the price me thinks, nothing more is more convincing than price.

update: if he is motivated to sell, then say something like this is my final offer, I have other choices i'm looking into that are also good for me.
good luck)

 

[twomoon]

Use that stuff from your avatar to convince him

 

[alien51]

say something like this is my final offer, I have other choices i'm looking into that are also good for me.

That's not going to work. Because if you suspect that you are dealing with a fellow Domainer, he has probably read that line a million times already.

And if you are dealing with a Fast-Moving-Inventory type of domainer, he would most likely make a counter-offer immediately.

Prima-donna domainers who ignore you with a "it's not for sale" snub, mean you are dealing with a higher-echelon of the Bin Laden category. You should either rev up your offer price to the "boatloads of money" level, or simply tell him to contact you in case he changes his mind, then walk away.

By the way, I'm in the End-User business eventhough i own more than 400 domains (most of them in the freezer for some future projects). There are domains i own that i really cannot sell.

My rationale is, if my e-commerce business is pulling in $1,500 a month, there's no way i'm going to sell the domain for $x,xxx which i can easily earn in 10 months. Some domains have a very solid "brandable" potential in it, that eventhough it has not yet launched, you could project your potential income in advance.

Remember, once you give away your brand, there's no way of getting it back without costing you an arm and a leg.

 

[Name Trader]

To heck with $xxxx. Offer $xx,xxx+

 

[hawkeye]

..Prima-donna domainers who ignore you with a "it's not for sale" snub, mean you are dealing with a higher-echelon of the Bin Laden category. ....

??WTF?? So if someone doesn't want to sell a name they possess, they're some kind of.., what .. domain terrorist?? OMFG! How dare they not justify 'why' or give a 'reason' for not wanting to sell their domain, they're rude and simply a 'Prima-donna terrorist'!! Good grief. Nice (not!) to see domain owner insulters hanging out consistently in domain forums.

 

[alien51]

??WTF?? So if someone doesn't want to sell a name they possess, they're some kind of.., what .. domain terrorist?? OMFG! How dare they not justify 'why' or give a 'reason' for not wanting to sell their domain, they're rude and simply a 'Prima-donna terrorist'!! Good grief. Nice (not!) to see domain owner insulters hanging out consistently in domain forums.

Didn't come from me.

You should read more threads here at namepros more often, and see what other hardcore domainers post about themselves. I merely picked up what they post here.

Domain terrorism, is not a term that came from me either. But it's an amusing term. lol

 

[hawkeye]

Didn't come from me....

:? Sure looks like post #6 is from you, but then I may be just one of those 'Prima-Donna' domainers and not able to read what it clearly written above!

 

[Archangel]

Pretty much everything on earth is for sale--even if it has no price tag. Offer him something he can't turn down. He'll crack. That's virtually a guarantee. But it might be a very Pyrrhic sale so be prepared for it, if it comes down to it.

 

[alien51]

I meant, my views i posted in this thread came from the collective posts other domainers made here at Namepros in the past, describing how they conduct their own domainer business.

That is why in the other Cowboys go Gay thread here, i was amused when the pot started calling the kettle black. This ethics thingy hurting the image of domainers, was a chuckle coming from the same pot.

 

[Ms Domainer]

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One who owns domain names are under no obligation to sell them at any price; it doesn't matter if the owner has forwarded it into the big black void.

I have a few that I don't want to sell, but for the right price...

But I'm not going to accept $60 for a premium domain.



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[hawkeye]

I meant, my views i posted in this thread came from the collective posts other domainers made here at Namepros in the past, describing how they conduct their own domainer business.

That is why in the other Cowboys go Gay thread here, i was amused when the pot started calling the kettle black. This ethics thingy hurting the image of domainers, was a chuckle coming from the same pot.

So, because of others condescending comments elsewhere, you felt the need to 'have to' write and insult domainers too with your - ..Prima-donna domainers who ignore you with a "it's not for sale" snub, mean you are dealing with a higher-echelon of the Bin Laden category. .. comment?? Probably made you feel like you were 'one of the guys' huh? Sad.

 

[alien51]

So, because of others condescending comments elsewhere, you felt the need to 'have to' write and insult domainers too

I was trying to emphasize the IRONY of the pot calling the kettle black. I'm not sure if people understand what that means.

If you do understand what it means, then you guys would probably just stick to running your domaining business as you see fit, and not try to bother with how other domainers are conducting their own business. The key element here, is gaining an understanding on how domainers do their business (ethical or unethical, you will be bound to encounter both types, so no need to be onion-skinned if you encountered a Bin Laden domainer, or someone who tries to "blackmail" with Cowboys.com--- these are very "normal" domainer practices). That's the point of my IRONIC comment.

Which is why, as i have said in the other thread, as long as it is LEGAL and FAIR, then forget about it and stop whining about "ethics" that you don't realize you MIGHT also be guilty of committing yourself.

 

[Archangel]

Ethics don't exist with most domainers. Sad but true.

Irony isn't understood by many, either :p

 

[hawkeye]

I was trying to emphasize the IRONY of the pot calling the kettle black. I'm not sure if people understand what that means.

If you do understand what it means, then you guys would probably just stick to running your domaining business as you see fit, and not try to bother with how other domainers are conducting their own business. The key element here, is gaining an understanding on how domainers do their business (ethical or unethical, you will be bound to encounter both types, so no need to be onion-skinned if you encountered a Bin Laden domainer, or someone who tries to "blackmail" with Cowboys.com--- these are very "normal" domainer practices). That's the point of my IRONIC comment.

Which is why, as i have said in the other thread, as long as it is LEGAL and FAIR, then forget about it and stop whining about "ethics" that you don't realize you MIGHT also be guilty of committing yourself.

Whatever that blabbering is about... :tri:

The bottom line is you feel, as you wrote and don't deny, that any domainer, or anyone, who responds to say that their domain is simply 'not for sale' that they are 'snubbing' Prima-Donna's who are on par to Bin Laden! And I, and I would think others would also, find you highly condescending and insulting to anyone in this industry who doesn't act 'as you see fit', whether you know their reasonings for not wanting to sell or not. Can't see why anyone, especially a domainer, would want to do any type of business with you. I know I don't.

 

[alien51]

What i said was:

"Prima-donna domainers who ignore you with a "it's not for sale" snub, mean you are dealing with a higher-echelon of the Bin Laden category."
The term "prima-donna" here, was used as an ADJECTIVE. If the adjective does not apply to you, because you feel you are not that type, then no need to burst your bubble. I wasn't referring to you.

I also said:

"i own more than 400 domains (most of them in the freezer for some future projects). There are domains i own that i really cannot sell."

As you can see, just because i own domains that are NOT FOR SALE, it doesn't mean i am a prima-donna myself.

A prima-donna is someone who is trying to feel very important and sought after, that he believes he is entitled to trample offers that don't measure up to his/her standards.

I've read a domainer who posted here in the past, saying when a potential buyer gives him a LOWBALL offer, he feels INSULTED. So he responds back with, "My domain is worth much more than you can afford!"

RULE OF THUMB: If you are a BUYER, don't insult Domainers with LOW BALL offers. You will get an extremely insulting reply as a retaliation.

If you are not like a prima-donna by that definition, then you are not the Bin Laden domainer type.

I hope you are now happy.

 

[Archangel]

Guys, can you STAY ON TOPIC? This thread's derailed now

 

[Fonzie]

I offered xxxx

So? Just because you offered four figures on a domain doesn't mean anything if it's a five, six or seven figure domain.
Offer XX,XXX. Keep going. He'll crack.

Your problem is "I think this domain is worth and I offered and he didn't take !"

People who want to buy domains very rarely have a in mind that's similar to the of the owner.