HUGE DOMAINS SNIPING GODADDY CLOSEOUTS

[wwwweb]

So annoying Godaddy hasn't stopped Huge Domains from sniping Godaddy Closeouts with their automated tools, no way a human bidder can win a even closeout.

First they were sniping with the backorders, now you cut that out, and you are letting them snipe via automated tools.

So what do you say @Joe Styler , you want to even the playing field a bit, as your partners are bidding everything in a split second, from $12, to $11, and bidding everything else into the hundreds from a simple bid. I would rather pay a Huge Domains surcharge at checkout.


Huge Domains has an unfair advantage on the auction platform, essentially taxing every user for using it with their automated access advantages given to them thru the house.

 

[D Haynes]

Well it appears they've removed the human element from decision making on what domains to bid on. The reason the average domain investor won't bid them up is because it isn't free money.

It takes considerable time each day to browse the lists and place bids at auction. Time is money and if huge domains have removed that human element it isn't costing them anything in resource to place those bids, so it isn't eating away at their profits like it would for a typical domainer.

If you listen to the latest Domain Sherpa Review episode it sounds as though the whole bidding, buying, listing process has been automated. I think its Josh from DSAD that is being allowed to sell his names on HD and he explains that he let's their algorithm come up with listing prices for the names and it lists them all for him. There won't be anyone working there soon lol.

Sorry if any of this has already been mentioned.

 

[wwwweb]

Not sure why Huge Domains uses afternic landers for some names checkout visionenviro.com, social experiment ?

 

[werty]

Not sure why Huge Domains uses afternic landers for some names checkout envisionenviro.com, social experiment ?

Doesn't seem they own this one according to whois.

 

[wwwweb]

Doesn't seem they own this one according to whois.

So sorry domain is visionenviro.com

 

[werty]

So sorry domain is visionenviro.com

Yeah I have seen them do that before. I have also seen them forward domain directly to sales listing on godaddy itself. IMO they are just testing sales conversion.

Also in the past, when they only did dropcatching for themselves, they used godaddy backorders against the same domains they were going after to test and fine tune their system imo. I remember seeing godaddy catching domains and it was for them. But this was many years ago if I remember correctly.

 

[werty]

*Also I wanted to share, if anyone wants to get a rough idea of what HugeDomains is selling, you can do so by going to the testimonials section on the bottom of the HugeDomains website*

 

[Ja Kai]

So, you all say that Huge Domains can't be beat. Well, I just created something that has been 50% successful at godaddy closeouts (the ones that Huge Domains goes after).

PM me the domain name you want to grab at closeouts - and the time of the closeout - and I will try and grab for you.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE - AS EVERYONE HERE SAYS THAT HD IS UNBEATABLE.

If it works, I'll put in my cart and PM back the EXACT time (2 hours after initial grab) and you can register.

If you want to continue this - I would do for $5 per domain going forward.

 

[wwwweb]

So, you all say that Huge Domains can't be beat. Well, I just created something that has been 50% successful at godaddy closeouts (the ones that Huge Domains goes after).

PM me the domain name you want to grab at closeouts - and the time of the closeout - and I will try and grab for you.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE - AS EVERYONE HERE SAYS THAT HD IS UNBEATABLE.

If it works, I'll put in my cart and PM back the EXACT time (2 hours after initial grab) and you can register.

If you want to continue this - I would do for $5 per domain going forward.

How do you know Huge Domains goes after the domain in closeouts? There is no way of knowing that. I guess you created some kind of script?

 

[Ja Kai]

How do you know Huge Domains goes after the domain in closeouts? There is no way of knowing that. I guess you created some kind of script?

1) We tend to try and snipe same domains.
2) These have "Godaddy Values" in the HD "want" range.
3) you just know when something works.

I see people here who have said they completely give up. These are the people I want to hear from.

 

[Lord Antares]

1) We tend to try and snipe same domains.
2) These have "Godaddy Values" in the HD "want" range.
3) you just know when something works.

I see people here who have said they completely give up. These are the people I want to hear from.

I wanted to test this myself but ultimately gave up. Have you made a bot? Are you using a VPS near server location? I'd like to see this in action.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

A lot to think about in this discussion, and thank you all for the observations and insights. Am I correct on the following?

1. HD bids on GD expired auctions but not user auctions
2. HD do not seem to bid at other venues like NameJet
3. They seem, with exceptions, to bid up to about 10% of GV valuations on .com
4. It is the general feeling they overpay (and therefore others do too if they get domains)
5. At times it seems they are just trying to be second.
6. Their rapid acquisition on this started about 4 years ago and shows no sign of decreasing.

Thanks,
Bob

 

[Ja Kai]

I wanted to test this myself but ultimately gave up. Have you made a bot? Are you using a VPS near server location? I'd like to see this in action.

I just can't detail here - As I go after roughly 3-6 closeouts a day - and I am finally having some success again. HD, in my estimation, registers 200-350 closeouts a day - just an educated guess.

 

[Ja Kai]

A lot to think about in this discussion, and thank you all for the observations and insights. Am I correct on the following?

1. HD bids on GD expired auctions but not user auctions
2. HD do not seem to bid at other venues like NameJet
3. They seem, with exceptions, to bid up to about 10% of GV valuations on .com
4. It is the general feeling they overpay (and therefore others do too if they get domains)
5. At times it seems they are just trying to be second.
6. Their rapid acquisition on this started about 4 years ago and shows no sign of decreasing.

Thanks,
Bob

I truly don't believe that HD and Godaddy are in cohoots. I believe that HD is strictly machine (like Drop Catch) until they hit a certain value. I think they have a disciplined plan that they follow - with no "real-time" people involved in the sniping or initial bids. I DO think that the auction does, indeed, go to a real person, once $250 is eclipsed.

 

[tonyk2000]

A lot to think about in this discussion, and thank you all for the observations and insights. Am I correct on the following?

1. HD bids on GD expired auctions but not user auctions
2. HD do not seem to bid at other venues like NameJet
3. They seem, with exceptions, to bid up to about 10% of GV valuations on .com
4. It is the general feeling they overpay (and therefore others do too if they get domains)
5. At times it seems they are just trying to be second.
6. Their rapid acquisition on this started about 4 years ago and shows no sign of decreasing.

Just for the sake of completeness, I'd add the following: Instead of grabbing some _extremely average_ closeouts on GoDaddy, he would wait and grab them after the normal drop (pendingdelete). So he does not want to pay ("$11 or lower" + transfer fee) on GD for these, but pure regfee is OK for his needs. No competition here, nobody wanted them as closeouts, of course no expired auction occured, so they simply drop.

 

[wwwweb]

I am wondering if anyone is noticing huge domains a little bit less in the auctions lately?

Their bidder number has changed to 91933 from 91932 now.

I have not been letting them have their closeouts, simply bidding $12, and waiting for their auto bot to engage, and taking them up to $1xx range has been effective 85% of the time like clockwork.

Buying all this inventory I know is a money loser down the road as these names are really meant in the sub $30 range. So I urge many to do the same, as they will snipe the closeouts, so hit them before they go, and make them pay up if they really want them. Remember the bid, and proxy is their choice so if they really want it, then why not make them pay, and water down their margins since they have such a thirst for domains. We can make them pay, the same way they bid everyone else up. No more freebies on closeouts for them. I would assume they got tens of thousands of sniped closeouts with the backorder loophole, now they got exclusive access to snipe, talk about bending over backwards to make them feel at home.

Game on

 

[tonyk2000]

I have not been letting them have their closeouts, simply bidding $12, and waiting for their auto bot to engage, and taking them up to $1xx range has been effective 85% of the time like clockwork

I've being playing in the same way, if I have time. Unfortunately I'm not a bot... Yes it works. Once I failed to increase my bid on-time (was busy doing something in another tab), and HD won paying just some 2 figures for $2000+ appraised nonsense domain
On many occasions, there is nothing more to do after placing an initial bid - at least 2 other bots will join and do all the job.
I did not see any changes in the behavior of hd bot recently. If anything - they tried to get more domains *at any cost* - using too high proxies (not an usual 9-11% of gd appraisal value). In one case they paid ~40%. But maybe it is just a coincidence.

 

[wwwweb]

I've being playing in the same way. Yes it works. Once I failed to increase my bid on-time (was busy doing something in another tab), and HD won paying just some 2 figures for $2000+ appraised nonsense domain
On many occasions, there is nothing more to do after placing an initial bid - at least 2 other bots will join and do all the job.
I did not see any changes in the behavior of hd bot recently. If anything - they tried to get more domains *at any cost* - using too high proxies (not an usual 9-11% of gd appraisal value). In one case they paid ~40%. But maybe it is just a coincidence.

They must have a human monitor watching such bids, in paying 40%, maybe it was a domain they previously sold, and only they had data on it, which I am sure is the case for many of their buys, as from the sheer volume of their lower level sells, they must have a lot of buyers who abandon their domains back into the stream after a few years.

As you stated this is the only way to close the huge domains closeout loophole, by not allowing it to get there in the first place, and making them pay 10x the closeout rate.

 

[tonyk2000]

And I am still trying to understand the reason why folks do frequently place initial bids 7-8 days in advance... If there is a good domain inside - why let all the world know in advance? Even if it is only antibot game (making them pay as much as possible, still being prepared to pay your own highest bid amount just in case) - it is what I am sometimes playing with - then the bots (like hd) will join in last minutes only... And, bot owners are in all cases humans - they will have a number of days to review these particular domains, which is not necessary good.

 

[urlurl]

maybe if enough exp auctions get bid up they may realize their model doesn't work and will stop or hold back.

until then, i would caution bidding on a name unless you really like it - you never know what there limit may be in the future - and no one wants to to be stuck with some of the garbage they are buying.

What's funny is, they may assume a name is great if there are multiple bidders, LMFAO

 

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from what I have seen they buy almost everything that is:

Aged 8y +
$1500 + GD value


if anyone has seen anything different please post.