How many times do you follow up to end users?

[rvo]

Hi NPers,

I'm actively seeking buyers for my domains, I contact them primary by email.
I'm using Streak for Gmail as one member of this forum recommended it, it's awesome.

I can see when a person has read my email, some emails have several views but no replies so I tend to follow up again once a week but how much is too much? For example, I have sent 3 emails to a person, the initial one and two follow ups, and I don't know if I should keep going, I just don't know what to say anymore, lol.

It goes like this (made up, obviously)
First email:
Hey, I have this awesome domain, myawesomedomain.com, buy it!

Second email:
Hey, I've send you an email last week, did you think about it?

Third email:
Hello?

Fourth email:
....


I hate when I see one of my emails have several views (dozens) and no replies, what the fuck people? at least say "No thank you" so I can cross your name.

So, how do you approach outbound marketing to end users? And how many times do you follow up? Do you do it until you get an answer?

 

[Kate]

To the majority of recipients your mail is just spam, so if you keep pushing, you may alienate them even more... Nobody should have to 'unsubscribe', when there was no opt-in in the first place.
Surprised you haven't got a bunch of fuck you replies yet.
The initial mail has to convey a sense of urgency, but good domains speak for themselves. Besides, end users usually buy only when they have a present need for a project. It's not enough to have a good product, it has to be delivered at the right time at the right moment.

 

[Bullock]

It goes like this (made up, obviously)
First email:
Hey, I have this awesome domain, myawesomedomain.com, buy it!

Second email:
Hey, I've send you an email last week, did you think about it?

Third email:
Hello?

Fourth email:
....

 

[rvo]

I know, I'm trying to learn here, is that wrong?

 

[deez007]

I don't think it's a good idea to follow up at all if you see they have viewed the email. If they viewed it and never got back to you I think it's safe to assume they probably not too interested in the domain. If you start following up then you risk pissing them off.

 

[LoneDeranger]

I understand your urge, but one follow up (at best) is more than enough. If they need it and want it, they'll hit you back. It is unprofessional to nudge your potential clients!

Good luck

 

[fm1234]

I would look into what levels of false positives on the "read" number can be expected of Streak, to be sure that your problem is actually lack of response and not something to do with the data. It seems strange to me that someone would open the same mail again and again without actually being interested in its contents.

That said, I always send at least one follow-up to an initial e-mail, but because I work with relatively small lists of prospects my follow-up efforts are generally dictated by how much I think the domain is worth, and who the prospect is. No matter what it's worth, there's a finite level of effort that can go into the process before I'm upside down on the value of the domain vs. the value of my time. So if it's a relatively low value domain, and/or all of the prospects are strangers for whom I have no contact but e-mail, it's pretty much going to be the one run of mails, plus the one follow up, before I move on and plop a small site on the domain rather than just let it sit and expire.

On more valuable domains I am typically sending mailers, running the phone, and working on LinkedIn rather than e-mail, with relatively little cold calling involved (simply because I have been doing this so long almost any domain I try to sell I already have at least a couple of "warm" prospects for, maybe even some who have purchased from me previously.) In those cases I will typically be a lot more aggressive in following up, but again, these are people who are already in contact with me, occasionally even previous buyers, and they know I'm not calling to talk about the Mets or whatever, so the persistence in following up is different from what I'd do on a cold e-mail.


Frank

 

[Bullock]

I know, I'm trying to learn here, is that wrong?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-to-find-potential-end-users.68798/






Domain Esprit

 

[davidmike]

It will depend on the traffic

 

[indiegrind]

I sell more domains by follow up/watching email reads.

I tend to follow up twice.

 

[hxp]

I normally send out the initial email, and that's that.

I'll only follow-up a second time, if I honestly believe the name is a super duper opportunity for the prospect.

If the prospect responds to the initial email, asking for the price or expressing interest, I'll follow up 2-3 times.

If we reach a deal or initiate negotiations, and the buyer suddenly drops off, I'm looking for an answer.

 

[Bullock]

I know, I'm trying to learn here, is that wrong?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-to-find-and-contact-end-users.907499/

 

[AEProgram]

Just send them one final email

---
Dear ....

If you are not interested in buying my domain please stop opening the email I sent you. You are driving me insane by looking at my email and not saying anything.

---

 

[S-B]

Roughly 80% of sales are made between the 5th and 12th contact.


That's not how I roll.... but that's how it works.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Active sales are a few times lower than passive sales to motivated endusers...
And in 95-99% of cases such emailings are waste of time and risk to be blacklisted.

 

[james haw]

Here's some feedback for OP, and my useful technique which perhaps others can use

It goes like this (made up, obviously)
First email:
Hey, I have this awesome domain, myawesomedomain.com, buy it!

Second email:
Hey, I've send you an email last week, did you think about it?

Third email:
Hello?

Fourth email:
....

I receive such emails (as well as other crap), and it goes like this (not made up):
I have numerous email accounts in my desktop Thunderbird client, and I have set them all to send any email I manually mark as junk (click of a button) to the "local" account (down the bottom out of sight) and into it's "trash" folder, and have set that trash folder to "empty on exit" so it's purged whenever I close Thunderbird/shut down the PC.

1st email
I read it, see it's sales/spam/someone trying to sell the wrong person the wrong domain name
I click "Mark as junk" button and your email address is added to the "junk" list, and that email is sent to the local account's trash folder (down the bottom out of sight)

2nd email
Automatically sent to local trash folder, I don't see it

3rd email
Automatically sent to local trash folder, I don't see it

150th email
Automatically sent to local trash folder, I don't see it

No matter how many you send or what you say, you are just sent to junk and your emails deleted on exit. Sorry if this offends, but generally they're not interesting and just some/any old domain for sale and I don't care. I have so many places to buy domains, NP, Sedo, Godaddy, Afternic, Registrars, Flippa, etc etc and so I don't need random ones coming in to my inbox(es) as well!

It is junk, spam, etc.

Of course some people sell well using this method, but only when:

1. Your domains are absolutely of high quality
2. And your domain name is absolutely relevant to the person/company you contact
3. And your email sounds professional (not just some general Joe trying to sell etc)

I hope you sell well, but honestly there is a difference between spamming some random people hoping they want to buy your basic domain names irrelevant to them/their business (very very unlikely to work) and you sending a high quality domain name to a company or person who will have some interest in it.

Good luck

 

[AEProgram]

Here's some feedback for OP, and my useful technique which perhaps others can use




I receive such emails (as well as other crap), and it goes like this (not made up):
I have numerous email accounts in my desktop Thunderbird client, and I have set them all to send any email I manually mark as junk (click of a button) to the "local" account (down the bottom out of sight) and into it's "trash" folder, and have set that trash folder to "empty on exit" so it's purged whenever I close Thunderbird/shut down the PC.

1st email
I read it, see it's sales/spam/someone trying to sell the wrong person the wrong domain name
I click "Mark as junk" button and your email address is added to the "junk" list, and that email is sent to the local account's trash folder (down the bottom out of sight)

2nd email
Automatically sent to local trash folder, I don't see it

3rd email
Automatically sent to local trash folder, I don't see it

150th email
Automatically sent to local trash folder, I don't see it

No matter how many you send or what you say, you are just sent to junk and your emails deleted on exit. Sorry if this offends, but generally they're not interesting and just some/any old domain for sale and I don't care. I have so many places to buy domains, NP, Sedo, Godaddy, Afternic, Registrars, Flippa, etc etc and so I don't need random ones coming in to my inbox(es) as well!

It is junk, spam, etc.

Of course some people sell well using this method, but only when:

1. Your domains are absolutely of high quality
2. And your domain name is absolutely relevant to the person/company you contact
3. And your email sounds professional (not just some general Joe trying to sell etc)

I hope you sell well, but honestly there is a difference between spamming some random people hoping they want to buy your basic domain names irrelevant to them/their business (very very unlikely to work) and you sending a high quality domain name to a company or person who will have some interest in it.

Good luck

"I have so many places to buy domains, NP, Sedo, Godaddy, Afternic, Registrars, Flippa, etc etc and so I don't need random ones coming in to my inbox(es) as well!"

What percentage of the hundreds of millions of potential buyers of domain names do you think behave like you?

Many sales are done via outbound email and phone. Sure, random spam is a waste, however, there are people doing 6-7 figures a year using email marketing for domains.

Like anything else, few know how to do this correctly, however, those who can stick to something long enough and open to learning (maybe 0.000000001% of the planet) can figure things out and make a nice living.

 

[james haw]

What percentage of the hundreds of millions of potential buyers of domain names do you think behave like you?

Many sales are done via outbound email and phone. Sure, random spam is a waste, however, there are people doing 6-7 figures a year using email marketing for domains.

Like anything else, few know how to do this correctly, however, those who can stick to something long enough and open to learning (maybe 0.000000001% of the planet) can figure things out and make a nice living.

Not sure what your point is. I said it works with high quality domains to a relevant person or business. You mention 6-7 figure sales, are these not aforementioned "high quality" domains? Otherwise, people trying to sell me "SomeGenericCrapName.com" I have no time for and neither does anyone else.

 

[AEProgram]

Not sure what your point is. I said it works with high quality domains to a relevant person or business. You mention 6-7 figure sales, are these not aforementioned "high quality" domains? Otherwise, people trying to sell me "SomeGenericCrapName.com" I have no time for and neither does anyone else.

SomeGenericCrapName.xyz is available

I get your point now, and yes I am talking quality names

 

[james haw]

SomeGenericCrapName.xyz is available

Thanks, I'm off to buy it. What's your email address again?... :D