advice GoDaddy Expired Domains - Big Doubt

[CakeCode]

Hi All,

Since recently, I have this doubt regarding the GoDaddy Expired Domains.

I see that some of the expired domains being advertised at NameBio ticker scrolls and other places . are you allowed to sell a expired domain even before you get the domain ?

GoDaddy usually makes you wait for at least 7 days after the successful payment to transfer the expired domain to your account. but how come they are advertising those domains even before they get them ?

please let me know

 

[CakeCode]

anyone ?

 

[cdboard]

the names may have been listed at those other places before the name expired.

 

[CakeCode]

so you mean GoDaddy is wanted doing the promotion to get some extra bucks ?

 

[Nerevar]

The previous owner must have listed them and forgot to remove.

 

[CakeCode]

No no . I saw them on namebio

They usually advertise for 1day. 7 days and 30 days

Why would someone wants to advertise on there before 30 days when they are not going to renew ?

 

[skyz21]

I wanted to know this too. I just got a couple domains through Go Daddy expired, account says I need to wait a week to recieve the domains, so I was under assumption I can't list them yet?

 

[Suriya B A Narayan]

Hi @CakeCode

Here is what happens at GoDaddy after a Domain Expires:

Once a domain name expires, it goes through many stages before being released to the open market. GoDaddy sends five renewal emails to the GoDaddy account owner prior to the expiration date. Below is a timeline based on .com domain names.

These timelines do not apply to ccTLD domain names.

Days after expiration Action
Day 1 >> First three billing attempts to renew the domain name are made. If the billing fails on the day of, or auto renew fails, the domain name expires and is immediately set to parking. The domain name can be renewed by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 5 >> The second billing attempt is made. The domain name remains in parking, but can still be renewed by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 12 >> The third and final attempt to renew the domain name is made. The domain name can still be renewable by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 19 >> The domain name can be renewed by the registrant for the cost of a one-year renewal plus an $80.00 redemption fee until Day 25
Day 26 >> The domain name is added to an expired domain name auction and remains in there till Day 35
Day 36 >> The expired domain name auction ends. If there are no back orders and no bidders in the expired domain name auction, the domain name is listed in a closeout auction and remains in there till Day 40.
Day 41 >> The closeout auction ends.
Day 43 >> The domain name is assigned to the winner of the expired domain name auction, back order, or closeout. If there are no bidders, then the domain name is returned to the registry.

In Nutshell
A registrant can renew an expired domain name at no extra cost up to day 18. If they renew an expired domain name anytime between day 19 and day 42, an additional $80.00 redemption fee is to be paid. The domain name might not be available for renewal after day 42.

Hope this explains.

Source of information: Godaddy Domains Help Page

PS I'm new here and hence responded now on this thread

 

[RJ]

Interesting. I suppose it could be that the domainer won the auction and listed in on NameBio before receiving the domain from GoDaddy.

The vast majority of GoDaddy expired auction purchases go through without a problem, and the domainer could be operating under the assumption that she'll have the domain before it sells on NameBio. I've bought several hundred names at GD auctions and only had maybe four instances where I didn't receive the domain I paid for.

Any examples for us to check out? I also noticed the NameBio ticker shows expired listings currently being auctions at GoDaddy auctions.

 

[equity78]

Hi @CakeCode

Here is what happens at GoDaddy after a Domain Expires:

Once a domain name expires, it goes through many stages before being released to the open market. GoDaddy sends five renewal emails to the GoDaddy account owner prior to the expiration date. Below is a timeline based on .com domain names.

These timelines do not apply to ccTLD domain names.

Days after expiration Action
Day 1 >> First three billing attempts to renew the domain name are made. If the billing fails on the day of, or auto renew fails, the domain name expires and is immediately set to parking. The domain name can be renewed by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 5 >> The second billing attempt is made. The domain name remains in parking, but can still be renewed by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 12 >> The third and final attempt to renew the domain name is made. The domain name can still be renewable by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 19 >> The domain name can be renewed by the registrant for the cost of a one-year renewal plus an $80.00 redemption fee until Day 25
Day 26 >> The domain name is added to an expired domain name auction and remains in there till Day 35
Day 36 >> The expired domain name auction ends. If there are no back orders and no bidders in the expired domain name auction, the domain name is listed in a closeout auction and remains in there till Day 40.
Day 41 >> The closeout auction ends.
Day 43 >> The domain name is assigned to the winner of the expired domain name auction, back order, or closeout. If there are no bidders, then the domain name is returned to the registry.

In Nutshell
A registrant can renew an expired domain name at no extra cost up to day 18. If they renew an expired domain name anytime between day 19 and day 42, an additional $80.00 redemption fee is to be paid. The domain name might not be available for renewal after day 42.

Hope this explains.

Source of information: Godaddy Domains Help Page

PS I'm new here and hence responded now on this thread

But they can transfer out to day 45

From an interview with @Paul Nicks

Ms Domainer, re: the 42/45 day question:
Good question and one that I sincerely hope I can clarify. First, I’ll underscore a point I made in the interview, we created the system to give our registrants the ability to keep or redeem their name as long as possible. With that as the backdrop, hopefully the following explanation will make more sense.
For many TLDs we are given a grace period of up to 45 days after expiration to decide whether to keep or drop a domain. On the 25th day after expiration, after three attempts to contact the registrant, we put our expiring inventory onto the Go Daddy Auctions platform to see if any of our other customers are interested in acquiring them. During the entire time a domain is at auction the current registrant is able to redeem that domain, albeit for a fee.
On the 42nd day we will cancel the domain name if no other customer has expressed an interest in it via either the auction system or a Go Daddy backorder. If, however, a customer has expressed an interest via either of these platforms we will move the domain to their account on day 43. Since the domain is still in the Go Daddy ecosystem we do allow, in rare circumstances, the original registrant to get the domain back via our redemption system up until day 45 which signifies the end of the grace period.
Our help documentation (http://support.godaddy.com/help/art...s-for-handling-expired-domain-names?locale=en) specifies day 42 for deletion because our registrants need to understand that if they do not redeem prior to that date they could lose their domain forever. However, we will continue to err on the side of the registrant when it comes to the edge cases where a domain owner calls asking whether they can get their domain back after day 42.
I hope that helps ease any confusion around this topic.
-Paul

Full interview here

 

[ben pedri]

Hi @CakeCode

Here is what happens at GoDaddy after a Domain Expires:

Once a domain name expires, it goes through many stages before being released to the open market. GoDaddy sends five renewal emails to the GoDaddy account owner prior to the expiration date. Below is a timeline based on .com domain names.

These timelines do not apply to ccTLD domain names.

Days after expiration Action
Day 1 >> First three billing attempts to renew the domain name are made. If the billing fails on the day of, or auto renew fails, the domain name expires and is immediately set to parking. The domain name can be renewed by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 5 >> The second billing attempt is made. The domain name remains in parking, but can still be renewed by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 12 >> The third and final attempt to renew the domain name is made. The domain name can still be renewable by the registrant at no extra cost.
Day 19 >> The domain name can be renewed by the registrant for the cost of a one-year renewal plus an $80.00 redemption fee until Day 25
Day 26 >> The domain name is added to an expired domain name auction and remains in there till Day 35
Day 36 >> The expired domain name auction ends. If there are no back orders and no bidders in the expired domain name auction, the domain name is listed in a closeout auction and remains in there till Day 40.
Day 41 >> The closeout auction ends.
Day 43 >> The domain name is assigned to the winner of the expired domain name auction, back order, or closeout. If there are no bidders, then the domain name is returned to the registry.

In Nutshell
A registrant can renew an expired domain name at no extra cost up to day 18. If they renew an expired domain name anytime between day 19 and day 42, an additional $80.00 redemption fee is to be paid. The domain name might not be available for renewal after day 42.

Hope this explains.

Source of information: Godaddy Domains Help Page

PS I'm new here and hence responded now on this thread

Excellent explanation Suriya ,I would just like to add that if you are a premier member you have up to 25 full days to recover the domain through godaddy without any redemption fee ,after 25 days up to 30 or 32 days its $20 per domain redemption and after 30? or 32? days its $80 Not 100% I think 32 but be safe with 30 days ,I think if you have at least 1000 domains more or less you can become a godaddy premier custom ,when I was invited years ago it was about 2000 domains. This is a free of charge membership.

 

[Suriya B A Narayan]

Thanks on the add-on information @ben pedri. Useful!!!

 

[CamMK27]

Hi Suriya, thanks for the explanation. I do have a question though.

What happens after day 35 if the domain was back ordered by some one then is it transferred to their account on day 36? Or do they still wait till day 43? What if the domain is back ordered but between day 35 and day 43 someone else makes a bid? Does that bid over ride the back order? or the new bidder can win the domain instead of the person who back ordered it?

 

[Suriya B A Narayan]

Hi @CamMK27

Great Question. Please note my point from my earlier post.

Day 43 >> The domain name is assigned to the winner of the expired domain name auction, back order, or closeout. If there are no bidders, then the domain name is returned to the registry.

Here's what happens.

-- If some one back orders the domain then their back order offers are considered only on day 43.
-- In case some one else bids high and wins the domain while in "Expired Domain Auction" (Day 26 - Day 35) then it supersedes the back order. Meaning the person who back ordered would not be able to get the domain and the highest bidder gets it.
-- Just in case there was no bids during the Expired Domain Auction, as mentioned in my explanation, the domain goes into a closeout sale (Day 36 till day 40). If some one buys the domain during the close out sale then this too supersedes the back order and the person who bought the domain in the close out sale gets it and not the one who back ordered.

-- even after the Close out sale if no one has bought the domain then on Day 43 back orders come into picture and there is a possibility that the person who back ordered may get.

Why is this a "May" get ? Because, there may be multiple people who back ordered the same domain in which case a private auction would be held (Most registrars do this) and the domain is awarded to the highest bidder.

Important and Please remember "the original registrant still has the chance to renew his domain with a redemption fee until day 40 in which case this supersedes all of the others - the highest Bidder / the one who bought in close out sale / the one who back ordered. In such instances Godaddy refunds any amount paid by the Highest Bidder after auction / the amount to the person who bought the domain in the close out sale. Normally people who back order are required to pay only the domain gets allotted to them.

Sorry about the long explanation, just wanted to be clear!!

In a Nut shell, for your question, the bids override any backorders !!

Please let know in case of any further questions! ! Would be happy to help with information !!!