.EU is going to grow HUGE.

[kenzo]

.eu will grow strong. (a lot more than the .biz, .info, .net, and .de)

The main reason is that investors and speculator will want a return on their invesments. They will start to develop the .eu domains, that will attract a lot of people/traffic to the .eu

Do you think people who have spent xxxK$ will let the extension die ? Come on, they are simply going to create artificially the extension popularity.

It's like myself : I have generics name .eu, and I'm going to develop them soon, and so will do the others.

The second reason is that Europe is the richest area of the World, before the US. Small associations, like in my country will prefer to have an asso1.eu before asso2.cctdl. I can assure that, it's making them more serious. I asked my friends, etc. The companies are thinking the same thing.

What will do for example a small italian company if it want a nice domain name and cannot afford a 100k$ .com ? They will get a .eu because it's will seem more professionnal, more stronger for them that a simple .it

The third reason is that a the 5 next years, Europe is going to be more unificated than now. We already get the same currency. Every months there are things that make us more united. Project of Constitution. An european Army. Facilities for students ! (in my college, last month they announced : now we are going to give you ECTS : european notes! that means i can go to an other euro-college, it will be the same notation)
Why is Europe is going to becore more and more united ? To face growing Asia, and to make a counterforce to the US.


there is no bubble.

 

[Sir Regalot]

Hugh numbers of .eus have been won by pool.com's 700 registrars. Pool.com are not going to start to develop their names, they are only interested in selling them. The same goes for nearly all speculators.

In the last 50 days only 300,000 .eu names have been registered. Yesterday alone,
722,227 .com names were registered, and 42,000 .net names were registered, and 117,000 .org names were registered, and 17,000 .info. Daily .eu resgitrations are about the level of .biz registrations and yet we are still in the honeymoon period for .eus. Wait a few months and .eu registration will dive further.

http://www.domaintools.com/internet-statistics/

 

[Smith]

I believe that .eu is going to flounder.

.eu is coming into an area with strong ccTLD's that have been used for years, so right away it is an underdog.

From what I have seen living in Europe everyone identifies themselves as being "French" or "British" or "German" etc. I have yet to meet anyone here in over a year and a half that identifies themselves as "European" over their home country.

Add to the fact that there over 20 or so official languages within the E.U. and there are many cross over terms that will add to confusion for surfers. ie. a person in England looking for autos easily could land on a French page, or vice versa.

Then if you look at the legal battles that are going to happen and are happening over rights to the names. ie. eurostar.eu it creates more confusion and a bigger mess.

It's possible that "small" companies that are starting up are likely going to be looking for a local market over a European market, in these cases, it makes much more sense for them to buy a .it or their own ccTLD over a .eu.

Finally, Europe may become more united over the years, but I really think it will be a cold day in hell before citizens of any country give up their identifies to become a unified "European citizen".

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Azam.biz]

Interesting to read your assertion Kenzo.

I would agree with you, particularly in the sense that the EU is going to become a closer entity over the years. I'm totally against the European project, but it is going to happen whether the public want it or not because there are a lot of politicians and bureacrats who have a vested interest in keeping the gravy train going.

But that is by the by: .eus have one of the world's most powerful organisations behind them, the European Union, and so they will succeed no doubt. There's no organisation ploughing hundreds of millions of Euros into promoting .info or .biz, but the EU is going to spend massive resources promoting the .eu TLD.

 

[jkotinis]

Hugh numbers of .eus have been won by pool.com's 700 registrars. Pool.com are not going to start to develop their names, they are only interested in selling them. The same goes for nearly all speculators.

In the last 50 days only 300,000 .eu names have been registered. Yesterday alone,
722,227 .com names were registered, and 42,000 .net names were registered, and 117,000 .org names were registered, and 17,000 .info. Daily .eu resgitrations are about the level of .biz registrations and yet we are still in the honeymoon period for .eus. Wait a few months and .eu registration will dive further.

http://www.domaintools.com/internet-statistics/

your figures are correct as per site mentioned, but it seems there is something hidden behide the numbers you provide.

ex 117000 .org names were registered today. Make the calculation and see that 365 * 117knames makes 42million names , which is nowhere near the .org range.

the same for .info 17k names per day for 1 year = 6millions.

So where is the mistake? It's obvious that it's well working (in .com,.net,.org) the well known schema of register-drop 5 days window.

On the future estimations only time will tell
But the facts are
-in 50 days 1.8 million names have registered
-Nobody but .com had 1 million regs in the first day
-the reg fee was in majority of cases more than 15 Euros (more in US$) which means that the minimum price for reg is 2 times in the best cases more expensive than .com(not to mention the 4.75$ .net and free .info promotions last year and the prices of 1.95$ regs for .info)
-in it's 50 days, it has more regs that .biz, .us and so many other cctlds.


The above just show to me (as inexperienced member) that at least till now .eu has momentum (and that explain also the speculation).

If it will succeed in the future, let's wait and see all together. In the mean time we could make our estimations if and when it will go over .info, .org and .net (2 years, 5 years , never?)

kindest regards
John

 

[matt_bodis]

.eu = failure

 

[MadAboutDomains]

.eu = failure

Nice to see that we are all backing up our arguments

Anyway... I think it's going to take a long time before we can see the true outcome of the .EU domain extension.

I personally hope that it gets up with the big boys. It has marginally more registrations than the .US and the .BIZ (I think... not sure though)... but I don't think that anything WILL or SHOULD get higher than the .COM. I love the .COM extension, it is how the internet started and I hope it stays.

- Luke

 

[BigCharlie]

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. You should meet up with a bunch of other .eu holders and have a coffee. You could then spend hours holding each other's hands and rationalizing your lousy purchases. Dotcom is king.

 

[Damion]

Hmm, your post isn't rational in my opinion.
Stating that the ones owning .eu domains having lousy domains just isn't rational.

 

[dgridley]

I think .eu is going to go the way of the Ghost.. requiring nexus or registration restrictions requiring presense or residency are always a fly in the ointment for regs or resale IMO. I'm beginning to lose faith in .us for the same reason..

 

[Devil_Dog]

.eu will grow strong. (a lot more than the .biz, .info, .net, and .de)? Come on, they are simply going to create artificially the extension popularity..

Sorta like what you're trying to do.

 

[Damion]

I think .eu is going to go the way of the Ghost.. requiring nexus or registration restrictions requiring presense or residency are always a fly in the ointment for regs or resale IMO. I'm beginning to lose faith in .us for the same reason..

I'm quite curious how it is you think there is going to be more restrictions apart from the EU residency condition.

 

[dgridley]

?? I don't recall saying that there were.. but IMO, that's enough to impede a great number of potential sales and resales.

I'm quite curious how it is you think there is going to be more restrictions apart from the EU residency condition.

 

[Damion]

?? I don't recall saying that there were.. but IMO, that's enough to impede a great number of potential sales and resales.

This is what i understood you said by reading your post:

I think .eu is going to go the way of the Ghost.. requiring nexus or registration restrictions requiring presense or residency are always a fly in the ointment for regs or resale IMO. I'm beginning to lose faith in .us for the same reason..

The part in bold through me off then if this is not what you meant.
I agree that the ''commodity'' of .eu is not as tradable as a .com would be but nevertheless sales are and will be made.

From a domainer point of view i think success depends of the kind of domains are in ones portfolio. And i mean not only the sex.eu or jobs.eu since these will be the obvious but domains that has potential to find it's way to a end user.

Example: MusicalShows.eu is a .eu domain i have sold recently and i have my portfolio calibrated to these type of domains. Not specifly targeted to the entertainment industry but when devising domains to pre and register i kept the end users in mind and personal projects that i would like to continue on for long term value.

General usage will develop over time without a doubt.

 

[dgridley]

I always understood nexus and residency requiremnets to mean the same thing.. requiring a presence in the country in order to register the domain. Maybe I'm wrong..

This is what i understood you said by reading your post:



The part in bold through me off then if this is not what you meant.
I agree that the ''commodity'' of .eu is not as tradable as a .com would be but nevertheless sales are and will be made.

From a domainer point of view i think success depends of the kind of domains are in ones portfolio. And i mean not only the sex.eu or jobs.eu since these will be the obvious but domains that has potential to find it's way to a end user.

Example: MusicalShows.eu is a .eu domain i have sold recently and i have my portfolio calibrated to these type of domains. Not specifly targeted to the entertainment industry but when devising domains to pre and register i kept the end users in mind and personal projects that i would like to continue on for long term value.

General usage will develop over time without a doubt.

 

[Damion]

I don't think you're wrong I merely understood you wrong. You see...English is not my native language.

So i guess i learned something new today

Nexus is equal to the requirement of a mandatory presence.
Hmm, i will look it up to be sure

update:
Looked it up and i am quite confused about your wordings, see what i mean...

 

[jmcc]

The main reason is that investors and speculator will want a return on their invesments. They will start to develop the .eu domains, that will attract a lot of people/traffic to the .eu

Optimistic at best. The concentrations of .eu points to it being a highly speculated tld rather than one where natural website development is the norm.

Do you think people who have spent xxxK$ will let the extension die ? Come on, they are simply going to create artificially the extension popularity.

They may be facing legal action from Eurid over warehousing these domains.

Small associations, like in my country will prefer to have an asso1.eu before asso2.cctdl. I can assure that, it's making them more serious. I asked my friends, etc. The companies are thinking the same thing.

Actually there seems to have been no change from the priority of domains (com - cctld - net).

there is no bubble.

I disagree. The .eu gTLD as it stands now is very definitely a bubble TLD. It may take 12 to 18 months for the bubble to burst but it will burst.

The daily gains in .eu are exceptional because there is no deleting domain element to the figures. The number of new domains added per day is also falling off dramatically and there is the lagged addition of Sunrise domains entering the count. This means that the number of actual new .eu domains per day is even lower.

Regards...jmcc

 

[jkotinis]

Optimistic at best. The concentrations of .eu points to it being a highly speculated tld rather than one where natural website development is the norm.

I try to find out if other new TLDs in their beggining (.info, .in etc) were also speculated. If we accept that, then we should say that all TLDs are mainly covered by speculators. Of course slowly but steadily you find out that new websites are building overtime.
And of course nobody will disaggree that the king is .com, but I have the feeling the speculation in .com is even higher than all the other TLDs around the globe. Why dodn't we accept that simple fact. The most speculated TLD is .com. Just think of the millions of parked domains, the thousands of big owners owing thousands of domains , the last month incident were some 30million (yes 30millions) domains were registered and drop etc.

I disagree. The .eu gTLD as it stands now is very definitely a bubble TLD. It may take 12 to 18 months for the bubble to burst but it will burst.

It might burst, time will tell but I really don't see any such evidence. With 19 millions registered companies around EU countries and if you consider the EU as an economic mainly union (free trade etc), then personally I see registrations in some millions in next years , but all these have to be proved.
Actually I see more weakness for the .us and .biz domains than that of .eu

The daily gains in .eu are exceptional because there is no deleting domain element to the figures. The number of new domains added per day is also falling off dramatically and there is the lagged addition of Sunrise domains entering the count. This means that the number of actual new .eu domains per day is even lower.

Then we might see the paradox in the next few coming months were there will be a reverse in the trend and we'll get into the red. The numer of registrations then will start decreasing and .eu will go again to 0.
ok joking. Let's try to find some statistics about usual new TLDs behaviour after their landrush.....

kindest regards

 

[kektex]

Personally I think it is gonna go the way of the .in TLD. Nowhere.
How many people went out and spent A LOT of cash on a .in that didn`t go anywhere? I`m glad I didn`t have that much money to spend back then and didn`t buy any.

 

[jkotinis]

Did the reg of .in names increased over time? I suspect yes (I haven't checked the stats anyway).
So if as you say, many lost money on speculation, that might didn't hurt the development of .in .

So, who cares if some risk their money for gold(?) grabbing? At the end the TLD may find it's way up for development.
And hope also that it's not us who loose the money!