Domain Parking: Tips & Tricks to Help You Earn More!

[smurge]

And so it begins!:wave:

My goal is to help people learn more about the parking industry and help them earn more money while spending less of it.

There are tons of tricks,tips,secrets that people use to make money in this business.

Let me say this, I will not discuss illegal or bad practices here so please don't ask.

What will I talk about? How to find domains,with traffic for cheap. Creating long term wealth for yourself and how to do it on a budget. I will answer questions and talk about what I know. If there is something I'm not familiar with or not knowledgeable about I will say so.

I am not here to start flaming wars with other domainers or parking gurus. Everyone has their own set of rules to making money. If you don't like mine, that's okay , but please share your ideas with everyone instead of bashing others.


Myths I want to debunk now:

#1. Parking is dead. (Far from it)

#2. You can't make money doing it. (B.S.- you can make a ton of money in it)

#3. Only the rich can do this. (This is not true!)

#4. Google doesn't like domain parking! (Yes they do, they make a ton of money off it. If they hated it so much why do they continue to support it?)



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So what's the point of all this? It's to help people with parking.

Please feel free to email,pm, or post your questions here and I will do my best to answer them all.


Thanks!

RJ

(P.S. I'm not the best writer so I apologize for any grammar or sentence structure mistakes in advance.)



--Answers to Questions I'm frequently asked!--

#1. What parking companies do I support/like?

These are the main ones I use and have had great success with. I base my success not only on the amount of money I make but also, customer service and transparency.

In alphabetical order:

- Bodis.com (Supports Foreign Traffic)(Zero Click Model Supported)
- Domainsponsor.com (Supports Foreign Traffic) (Zero Click Model Supported)
- Parkingcrew.com (Supports Foreign Traffic)
- Voodoo.com (Highest Payouts In The Industry)


#2. What tools do you use to help you evaluate domains?

Besides my own "TOOL", which I'm not here to promote I would suggest the following;

1. Push2check.com - Great resource site (I do not affiliated with them in anyway)

If we break down the tools I generally look at the following:

Traffic Sources: (Understand that no tool is 100% accurate but together you can get a great picture.)

1. Compete.com
2. Alexa.com
3. Quantcast.com
4. Verisign Labs: http://domainscore.verisignlabs.com/ ( WARNING: This tool to be used when you have mastered other tools. The information on this site is tricky but can be useful)

History of the domain:

1. Archive.org
2. who.is

Backlinks: ( There are plenty of tools for these but here are some sites I use)

1. Majesticseo.com
2. Google Backlinks
3. Yahoo Backlinks
4. DuckDuckGo.com
5. AHrefs.com: https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains/brickbuyers.com
6. opensiteexplorer.org (Enjoy this one. It's the search engine for backlinks)



Keywords:

1. Google Keyword Tool


#3. Where can I get lists to analyze:

I have my own tools that do the work for me however here are a few places you can grab lists from to analyze:

1. Dynadot.com
2. Expireddomains.net - (good site)
3. Namejet.com
4. Snapnames.com
5. Godaddy.com
6. Freshdrop.net - (this covers a majority of the above & more)


#4. Do all your domains make money?:

NO!

I'll say it again : NO! I STILL PICK LOSERS!

In fact anyone who says they make money on every single purchase is lying. No one has a 100% success rate and you don't need to. What you need to do to win in this business is;

#1. Pick 51% winners
#2. Make sure to keep your costs low and make more then your spending.


Understand a single domain can make up the costs of lost ones. I picked a domain that makes me $15.00 a day in revenue. That means I'll make $450 a month with it and it's recouped $300 I've lost on previous domains.

Trust me, the sea of domains is massive and there are ton's of GOLDEN NUGGETS ready to be mined by all.


#5. How much do you spend on domains?:

I've spent anywhere from $.99 - $x,xxx! If I like a domain I will spend what I need, to get it as long as "I CAN STILL MAKE A PROFIT"! That's the key.

However, recently I am testing a new program which allows me to buy strictly "HANDREGS". YUP, Handregs! You would be surprised at how much stuff is just sitting on the ocean floor of domains that people think are garbage.


#6. Blacklisted Domains? Revenue Sucks! HELLLLLP!

This is something that's not addressed a lot and something everyone should be aware of: THE BLACK LIST!

This still happens to me this day. I'll buy a domain only to find out the previous owner got blacklisted from Google. This will affect your revenue greatly because Google will not allow Parking Companies to display the proper ad's on your site. If this happens you will need to go to a second feed like Yahoo! or Zeroclick model.

Common Terms for Blacklisted:

1. Faillisted
2. Blacklisted
3. Fail

Check the status of a domain when you park it and you'll see what I mean.

Edit:6/12/2012: Thank You www.ri.sch.edu.sg for this tool!

Originally Posted by www.ri.sch.edu.sg

One thing I can add to this thread is to check if the domain is blacklisted before you purchase them, simply point to:


https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=(Insert Domain Here)

Classification:

Primary = Google

Secondary = All others but Google (Faillisted,blacklisted, etc from google)

Hope that helps






#7. YUM! YUM! Domain Tasting


If you're not sure what this is it's when you buy a domain and test the traffic for a set amount of time and if your not happy with the traffic you can get a refund or partial refund of your handreg fee.

One thing I see all the time is: Domain tasting is dead! No it's not!

Yes; it might not be as prevalent as it once used to be but there are companies out there that still allow it. How do I know this? Because I do it.

#8. Can I promote or advertise my parked domains?


No, No, No, No, No, No,No, No, No, No, No, No,No, No, No, No, No, No,No, No, No, No, No, No!

If I wasn't clear let me repeat it; NO!


#9. What do all those backlinks mean from different sites?

(Thanks Martiinko for the info)

All those sites "backlink" scanners work by "downloading" the pages all over internet and then searching for URLs in it. Moving from one page to the other over these links. But...

1. There maybe a difference in last time they check this domain for backlinks.

2. There is definitely a huge difference in their databases of pages. That means if one site has smaller DB they don't probably have all the backlinks from as many pages as the other site.

3. Some backlinks are maybe updated, some maybe aren't. The process of "crawling" the web is very time consuming, so not all the backlinks can be verified every day.

To your other question. The links like you described are ok. If you park a domain all the requests go straight to the main page. But what is important is where is the link located. Is it a "spam in comments section", is it in the "blog post" or is maybe a "banner"?

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So I collected couple different pages (and I'm collecting even more) for you to check if the webpage/domain was ever parked before Some have form input some are just simple url + domain name.
I will make it into a simple web app, so you don't have to go to all of this pages when checking a domain name for parking history. Mostly screenshots.

Was this domain name parked before?
All of them are free. And I don't have any connection to them whatsoever.

Fun fact: This article got to 2th place in google search for Domain name parking history after 20 minutes.




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*** WORDS OF WISDOM ***

1. Never spend money you can't afford to lose! Consider every domain investment a loss till you make your money back because that's what it is. No one can tell me different on this and the reason why is you are "NEGATIVE" that amount of money till it's recouped.

2. When you buy a domain to park; look to get your initial investment back within 6-12 months.

 

[earthgld]

i think i can't determine traffic until now, even i know the stat of the domain but i don't know how to estimate the traffic. What you guys do to check the traffic? How about semrush traffic is it accurate?

 

[martiinko]

Verisign labs is not accurate at all! Be very careful with this tool.

This is just my advice but do as you will.

I think the problem with the Verisign DomainScore is that they do not actually really now if the access to the site was a bot or it was a real person... they cannot use javascript/jquery to determine that if the domain is not regged.

Maybe someone already knew that, but that 9.9 or 8.4 etc score isn't actually very helpful :D the helpful part is after the click... and in the graph. Because that 9.9 score could actually mean 100 request/7 days or 10,000/7 days... also the requests themselfs maybe rubbish because there can be like 20K of total requests (blue bar) but only 600 of them unique visitors (green bar)... These are stats for domain bellonio.com ... recently was dropped and picked up by someone "mysterious" :D (always using different names). The point is that the domain has 683 Referring Domains and 3,047 External Backlinks. So even those 600 uniques maybe bots... :D

Just to add I have a friend who has a domain (forum) and he was telling me that he has like 50,000 visitors a month on that forum, which he was not moderating... He recently moved the site to my server I set up the piwik analytics to measure the real traffic... and the result is right now like 25 visitors/day... other accesses were bots spamming this forum.

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[NameAgency]

Hi smurge
Thanks for sharing great info.
I've just open account in Parkingcrew. Do you change auto-optimization settings? I add some domains to try and the auto settings put themes with 1 click. Following your advice, must I change something to force 2 click themes?
thanks

 

[smurge]

Hi smurge
Thanks for sharing great info.
I've just open account in Parkingcrew. Do you change auto-optimization settings? I add some domains to try and the auto settings put themes with 1 click. Following your advice, must I change something to force 2 click themes?
thanks

I let them Auto-Optimize first. If those setting don't start converting traffic into clicks within 3-5 days I will force keywords.

Remember when you switch parking companies it will take 3-5 days to get the traffic optimized and transferred over.

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I think the problem with the Verisign DomainScore is that they do not actually really now if the access to the site was a bot or it was a real person... they cannot use javascript/jquery to determine that if the domain is not regged.

Maybe someone already knew that, but that 9.9 or 8.4 etc score isn't actually very helpful :D the helpful part is after the click... and in the graph. Because that 9.9 score could actually mean 100 request/7 days or 10,000/7 days... also the requests themselfs maybe rubbish because there can be like 20K of total requests (blue bar) but only 600 of them unique visitors (green bar)... These are stats for domain bellonio.com ... recently was dropped and picked up by someone "mysterious" :D (always using different names). The point is that the domain has 683 Referring Domains and 3,047 External Backlinks. So even those 600 uniques maybe bots... :D

Just to add I have a friend who has a domain (forum) and he was telling me that he has like 50,000 visitors a month on that forum, which he was not moderating... He recently moved the site to my server I set up the piwik analytics to measure the real traffic... and the result is right now like 25 visitors/day... other accesses were bots spamming this forum.

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Funny! I went to buy that name but was not able to because someone else got it before me.

Too Funny!

 

[NameAgency]

But, since your domains are not keyword-based, wich criteria do you follow to set a keyword?

 

[smurge]

But, since your domains are not keyword-based, wich criteria do you follow to set a keyword?

To figure out the proper keyword I use Archive.org

I pull up the old site (if it's there) and do the following steps:

#1. Right Click anywhere on the old website

#2. Select View Page Source

#3. At this point I will look in the coding of the website to find the OLD keywords used.


#3. I will force these keywords at the parking companies and if I cant force them I will email the admins with the keywords and have them do it.

 

[Name Trader]

I will force these keywords at the parking companies and if I cant force them I will email the admins with the keywords and have them do it.

This doesn't work at Bodis, right? So I would imagine that the automation given by Google wouldn't work too well with non-keyword domains, right?

PS: You never answered my question about DuckDuckGo.com?

 

[martiinko]

Funny! I went to buy that name but was not able to because someone else got it before me.

Too Funny!

There was another great domain dropping today... AccessKey.com ... I just keep wondering how could someone let domains like that expire

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[smurge]

There was another great domain dropping today... AccessKey.com ... I just keep wondering how could someone let domains like that expire

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It happens all the time. I find domains and wonder, "Why?". This just proves that there is plenty of room for everyone out there and you can make money.

 

[martiinko]

#2. What tools do you use to help you evaluate domains?

Backlinks: ( There are plenty of tools for these but here are some sites I use)

1. Majesticseo.com
2. Google Backlinks
3. Yahoo Backlinks
4. DuckDuckGo.com
5. AHrefs.com: https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains/brickbuyers.com
6. opensiteexplorer.org (Enjoy this one. It's the search engine for backlinks)

#7. YUM! YUM! Domain Tasting

If you're not sure what this is it's when you buy a domain and test the traffic for a set amount of time and if your not happy with the traffic you can get a refund or partial refund of your handreg fee.

One thing I see all the time is: Domain tasting is dead! No it's not!

Yes; it might not be as prevalent as it once used to be but there are companies out there that still allow it. How do I know this? Because I do it.

I see you added some new stuff into the first post. I check those two new sites. Looks nice. Bit pricey though But that opensiteexplorer.org looks very nice. I think I can make it work... :]

Regarding the domain tasting, do you know of any site/registrar who offers that and you can mention here?

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[bojianh]

One thing I can add to this thread is to check if the domain is blacklisted before you purchase them, simply point to:

https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=YOURDOMAIN.com

If bodisadvertisements is primary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=voodoo.com, means you are good to go. If it's secondary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=namepros.com means the domain is blacklisted on Google. Note that being blacklisted on Google Domain Parking != banned on Google AdSense

Hope that helps

 

[smurge]

One thing I can add to this thread is to check if the domain is blacklisted before you purchase them, simply point to:

https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=YOURDOMAIN.com

If bodisadvertisements is primary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=voodoo.com, means you are good to go. If it's secondary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=namepros.com means the domain is blacklisted on Google. Note that being blacklisted on Google Domain Parking != banned on Google AdSense

Hope that helps

Outstanding! Thanks for this and I will add it to the front page!

 

[bojianh]

Sure thing. This way we have no need to second guess the status of the domain with respect to Google!

 

[martiinko]

One thing I can add to this thread is to check if the domain is blacklisted before you purchase them, simply point to:

https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=YOURDOMAIN.com

If bodisadvertisements is primary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=voodoo.com, means you are good to go. If it's secondary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=namepros.com means the domain is blacklisted on Google. Note that being blacklisted on Google Domain Parking != banned on Google AdSense

Hope that helps

So NamePros is blacklisted at Google?

 

[bojianh]

I said in the previous post:

"Note that being blacklisted on Google Domain Parking != banned on Google AdSense"

So NamePros is blacklisted at Google?

 

[martiinko]

I said in the previous post:

"Note that being blacklisted on Google Domain Parking != banned on Google AdSense"

Yeah, I read that :D so that actually means that you can't park it with google... so but why is that? :D

 

[bojianh]

Yeah, I read that :D so that actually means that you can't park it with google... so but why is that? :D

I'm not really sure. Maybe Google decided that as a parked domain, it will do quite bad. But as an AdSense site, it's acceptable. Not sure how G decides

 

[martiinko]

I'm not really sure. Maybe Google decided that as a parked domain, it will do quite bad. But as an AdSense site, it's acceptable. Not sure how G decides

Ok, nevertheless quick and easy to implement. Thanks.

 

[NameAgency]

I re-print the first post of this thread. It'a a kind of domain parking bible

Wich of this tools are worthy? If you must select only one, which one you choose?
I have not read nothing about domaintools.com. It is not a good resource?

Thanks again.

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Oops, Obviously I mean the ones that cost money to have full functions.

 

[Name Trader]

@smurge - don't know why you don't want to say how DuckDuckGo.com is supposed to work. Perhaps I'm phrasing it poorly. But what does DuckDuckGo.com provide you with?

 

[smurge]

@smurge - don't know why you don't want to say how DuckDuckGo.com is supposed to work. Perhaps I'm phrasing it poorly. But what does DuckDuckGo.com provide you with?

My apologies, I didn't see your question.

DuckDuckGo.com is it's own search engine. It does not base it's results off Google or Yahoo. So when you are searching for backlinks on there it's just another way to validate real backlinks and results.

 

[DnEbook]

One thing I can add to this thread is to check if the domain is blacklisted before you purchase them, simply point to:

https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=YOURDOMAIN.com

If bodisadvertisements is primary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=voodoo.com, means you are good to go. If it's secondary like https://api.bodis.com/domainclassification?domain=namepros.com means the domain is blacklisted on Google. Note that being blacklisted on Google Domain Parking != banned on Google AdSense

Hope that helps

Those idiots banned names like 6462/com and other names such as sensorgames when i tried out 'google parking' this has affected my parking ....... piss me off

 

[smurge]

Those idiots banned names like 6462/com and other names such as sensorgames when i tried out 'google parking' this has affected my parking ....... piss me off

Are you talking about Google or Bodis banning them? Bodis does not control whether or not your domains get banned; that's all Google or Yahoo.

 

[pablohc86]

when we use compete or quantcast.. (ok all tool are note law but just to take a look) on the corner i see US Data only.. so the stats are only for the us traffic or that stats is global?

 

[NameAgency]

I've been using both AHrefs.com and Opensiteexplorer.com for a couple of days. Data showed for the same domain differs in the results with ref domains and total backlinks.

I get this results:
Opensiteexplorer: Linking Root Domains 432. Total links: 13,373
Ahrefs: Ref domains: 198. Total Backlinks 3’621.
Alexa: Sites Linking In 526
Majesticseo: Referring Domains 803. External Backlinks 27,146 (Historic Index).

I'm a little mindblowed about this. Can you help me to explain this differences? Wich is the more reliable data?

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Still another question.
For parking purposes, the ext. links like "domain.com/somepage.html" are not valid? I supose that I must take into account the ones linking to "domain.com". I'm true?