Labeled as information in Legal Discussion, started by WhoaDomain.com, Mar 19, 2020
lol TRUE TRUE! I think you know of at least one.
I've purchased from the "guy" before on here and he's genuinely not a bad guy. Plus he's in one country right now that prior to Covid was already in a bad situation economically and now I suspect is even worse so I suspect he is or will be in a tight spot in the coming months.
not going to mention his name. At one point he had his whois public. BIG MISTAKE. glad he put privacy on it and kept quiet.
Good for him and sad for him. This is the result of seeing public sentiment for registering coronavirus domains.
does no one see something wrong with this? not the registering of coronavirus domains but the fact that the registrants have to hide in the shadows now like Jews in Nazi Germany? hate to bring up that analogy but it is just as scary these days.
Liberals talk about Freedom this or Freedom that but if you dare take an opinion against the current narrative whatever it is for that month or year, WATCH OUT.
The current narrative is thousands of people dying of the the word this EMD is.
The narrative is how unfair this is to you - the loss of a reg fee.
While Spain, Italy, all Europe - the Middle East, and now the US is under a state of emergency in the midst of a worldwide pandemic.
What does any sale that happened while not under a state if emergency and a worldwide pandemic - resulting in thousands of deaths? What does what anyone else "got" matter to this situation?
You have no possible or reasonable comparison at all. By the way, if you owned a toy company right now - the US war production act (n force now) gives them the right to take your factory and make whatever the Gov. need or wants to make - you have NO CHOICE.
Thanks for sharing your story @WhoaDomain.com!
Although I would have done a few things differently (take the 10,000 offer) I don't feel you did anything immoral or unethical.
The current pandemic is causing chaos around the world and emotions are dynamic. This thread and some of its responses reflects that.
If we fault one, we must reflect in the mirror. At the end of the day we are forward thinkers. We are ahead of the curve. Being fast, quick and well knowledged is not a crime, immoral or unethical. We, as domainers, should not apologize for that.
Wishing everyone the best in these trying times!
Ok I think it's time we need to calm down. Me and you. I'm heated because of what happened .you are heated because of my comments said in frustration at the time which no doubt is combined with the fact that I am affected by this coronavirus too like everyone else. I haven't hidden the fact that I am panicking like the rest.
so let me extend the olive branch here and apologize if i offended you in any way shape or form. This whole thread is now becoming counterproductive.
What's done is done. Spain took my domain and that's that. Am I happy with it? no?
who cares? beginning of all this with this thread. I really did not know what to say about it. maybe I spoke too soon and did not think before typing. I was confused and upset. so sue me.
bear in mind I'm over here worrying about my 80 yr old mom who is at risk of getting this crap but she still needs supplies and needs to be tended to and I'm her only son. meanwhile supplies or access to supplies is becoming difficult to get and are RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE NOW.
so excuse me please if I lost my mind for complaining about this situation on a public forum.
Spain has the domain. I can't do nothing about it.
I think it's bs that they will return it.
what am I going to do with the domain after they no longer need it? when will they no longer need it?
so doesn't really matter if they return it or not at this point. I've accepted already that I'll never see this domain again.
so if you really want to keep at it take comfort that this domainer got F*cked and have a laugh at my expense.
I have calmed down since posting this thread. probably just needed to vent but I did not know I would be heavily criticized for venting.
And again. I really take no issue about not getting any money for Coronavirus.es.
It's the WAY it was taken. period. let's end this already discussion already and get back to domaining. Apologies all around. I surrender to the masses.
His best would have been to use it to build information base for the disease because a lot of people were visiting that domain name. That was a technical waste of traffic IMO.
yea looks like as always if enough pressure is upon you. it's only a matter of time when you have to cave in.
As I see the domain now points to WHO website.
Had he done so without so much pressure then it wouldn't be so bad. But too many eyes on it. too many opinions.
There are have been many hot topics in the past that if you are on the wrong side of it. you will feel the heat.
I guess this is why he did not develop. Would have taken time to do so and he knew he had to act quick or lose everything.
Anyways. Coronavirus.es looks to be up and running and the website looks great. not the topic but the website.
Looks like they must have had a website ready to go already even before they confiscated the domain.
Good for them. I wish Spain the best. Truly. Hoping the world pulls thru this.
"A nail that sticks out will get hammered."
I've heard that saying so many times. It's basically saying. keep your head down or get beat down. go with the status quo. be afraid when you go left. be afraid when you go right. be afraid when you go up. be afraid when you go down. be afraid that you can't even move for fear of a mistake or two or three.
might as well be dead.
as a kid who got bullied for being fat. never thought of it like that. I always thought.
"why must everyone choose to be a hammer?"
Thanks @Internet.Domains sure won't make any new friends saying what you said. probably lose some maybe.
Fear is just an emotion, it can be controlled....Have no fear my friend....😃
I think they made the offers to you through that person, giving the warnings that person gave. They gave you the opportunity to sell it to them. I hope it is released back to you, or the payment re-offered.
Looking at the website built on that dot ES, I doubt that you will get it back anytime soon.
But you never know.
I had no idea it was this bad. Just saw this as I was accessing my yahoo email.
Did the workers in this Spanish nursing home really just leave these people there to fend for themselves?
Someone better go to jail for this.
But I will say this having worked in nursing homes. Many are staffed by low paid foreign overseas works many of whom don't even have the proper working papers or barely. So I can see why many would not give a sh*t. That said. The owner of the nursing home should be help ultimately responsible.
Grim find: Bodies of virus victims in Spanish nursing homes.
No, legally they aren't suppose to just take it without giving you some sort of compensation. Domains are literally like land/estate laws. The state/government can't take your property..... #1 Illegal activity is occurring.... #2 If they need the Domain/Land they must offer some sort of compensation. #3 an act of war or aggression towards that government.... #4 if they domain is being improperly used or goes against the guidlines/rules of the registered registrar or ICANN. there are a lot of reason why they legally have to compensate you.
if they are going to use it to give people informations/news/updates and maybe save lives. That means you are a major key in that act of saving between 1 and 6 billion lives. And i would have been proud to have them take it (if) that is what they plan on using it for.
actually wrong. In any state of alert like the one recently activated by Trump it means the Government can take anything to be used for the purposes of the USA.
I see these corporations like right now Carnival Cruise lines are "donating" their ships to be used as floating hospitals.
you really think they "donated" those?
They were FIRST (probably) told straight up. We're gonna take your boats but we'll give you the opportunity to "look good" at least you'll get brownie points and maybe after all of this is done we'll give Carnival a gold plaque for it's contribution to help the people.
In anycase, I'm sure after all of this is done the American people will flip the bill on these cruiselines.
Probably a big tax break for Carnival in the future.
Same goes with Jacob Javits in New York that is supposedly going to be turned into a make shift hospital.
Right about now and in a couple of months. There should been conventions going on there. But I bet all of those are cancelled so Jacob Javits Center had to figure out a way to cover those losses.
That's definitely a grim story. I read it earlier this morning. Total number of confirmed casualties is at 3.434 in Spain. That surpasses the numbers of China.
In Spain under the "alarm state" they can take everything from you, except the house where you live.
sorry just read this quickly... so basically if you sold it, then they'd take it from the buyer too no?
Yeah, i didn't thunk about the Gov Laws Of Spain when i posted that. But that is true, and U.S can do that as well - but to a certain extent. they legally have to compensate you in one way or another, even if its as small as your refund.
well if thats true then it wouldn't be just spain would it.. it'd be all of eu i guess...
Not necessarily, every country and state has their own ways of doing things
Here not because is only temporay. This kind of "alarm state" can last up to 15 days and then must be renewed by the parliament for 15 more days. In 45 years of Democracy it's only the second time they use this power.
No, just a Spanish law.
wow, So they pretty much just say - screw you this is ours now..... Remind me to never live in Spain lol
Sad about what happened!
But, through our research, we found that most (*-)coronavirus(-*) domains (and sub-domains) are being used in phishing scams and for inducing panic based malware downloads (and misinformation, cyber attacks, distributing ransomwares). I think they took a reasonable step in confiscating it to prevent abuse in such a sensitive situation.
I believe the government wants to control this domain in such a situation to avoid panic and misinformation. I would say this was quite a reasonable step - a precautionary step.
yup that's what my "basic" self thinks. I'm sure experts can confirm this.
Under emergency laws I think they could and should be able to. Refund your $xx spent and call it a day. But in this case you could get it back with a lot of links
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