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Alright alright. Get ready for a chuckle. As I hinted before in other threads. Government's might confiscate domains using country code extensions.

In this case it was .es .

Not going to complain as they said they would give back the domain after this crisis is over (supposedly).

I should have grabbed that $10k offer.

But after I blew off that offer because they tried to scare me that Spanish Gov would take it. I cut all communications. I don't like scare tactics just to get my domain.

I suspect buyer took revenge and notified Spanish Gov and they took action. Or maybe not and Spanish Gov did so anyways.

Marcaria said this domain would be "returned".

What are my rights in regards to this? I guess they can legally do this?

I mean after coronavirus is "over" what point is it to own coronavirus.es?

Also FYI as part of this also COVID19.es and covid-19.es was confiscated "temporarily".

Currently the domain resolves to no where but I'm sure soon it will.

Is this all legal? Will I lose this domain completely?

The wording from Marcaria is that it will be eventually returned after this crisis is over.

Pretty slick. Spanish Gov. I had planned on developing this domain to monetize now nothing.

Wonder what other. Countries will do this?

Are my rights being violated here by a Government? I suspect no but just curious.
 
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$10K was a good offer for a hand reg that would help educate people, you should not have been so closed off.
 
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Just wanted to add that while I understand your disappointment after having a 10K offer- the bottom line is that you paid handreg fee and didn't capitalize in time on a decent offer for a potential great flip. You keep writing about goverments having tons of money to spend on jets and other things, but not on domains. In a previous thread you wrote similiar things about a big company that didn't make the kind of offer you wanted. Well...

Should companies and governments make sure an appointed person or division grabs domains before they have to pay way more for them? Absolutely. But the great majority don't think about domains as a priority or understand their importance. They also likely don't know domainers exist until they run into them when they realize at some point that they need a domain that's owned by someone else.

Nobody owes you or any domainer anything, whether it's a $50,000 company or $50,000,000 company or a government with unlimted resources. You're a guy who's trying to make a profit by identifying trends and buying cheap domains and the fact that companies/governments are slow to realize they need a url is what helps you make money and turn a domain that costs practically nothing into $10K or more overnight. So criticizing and ridiculing entities for the very thing that helps you make money seems somewhat strange to me.

Either way, I think that during such a crisis- where so many people are getting sick and dying, the economy is crashing and all world order goes to hell, focusing so much on personal gain isn't something you should do. You'll have other opportunities and the domain was taken from you in order to save lives. It was done after you negotiated, likely with people from a government who's in the midst of an unbelievable disaster and don't have time to play around with someone who's considering offers while their country is going down the drain.

I'll conclude by saying that I'm definitely not one of the priviliged or rich people you referred to in one of your posts, saying they'd be on Spain's side instead of the little guy's side. I wish I were rich. Priviliged- not so much. But I just think that in the face of such tragedy, being understanding and compassionate is important, especially when all you lost here is handreg fee and the potential for money, which with your skills you'll be able to make elsewhere.
 
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@WhoaDomain.com In this time of unprecedented crisis and chaos, the last thing the government of Spain wants to deal with and spend valuable time on is trying to buy a domain from a guy (with no relation to Spain) who's trying to capitalize on this unfortunate situation. Yes, you handregged it before an entire nation because you're a domainer and are actively looking for opportunities. Believe it or not, the rest of the world has other priorities other than domains and government decisions take time. It almost seems like you think that governments have a special fund that's dedicated to buying domains from opportunistic domainers, funds that can be accessed immediately. And for some reason you think that during a huge economic crisis Spain should be paying you 6 figures because it's a rich country. It's almost too ridiculous to believe.

Every second this domain will be live will help save lives. Be glad that this domain will be used for a good cause and stop thinking about your bank account. I'm all for capitalism but you don't seem to have any red lines. This thing is bigger than all of us and we should all be there for one another and think about the wellfare of other people. I'm sorry but this whole thread really saddens me and the sort of sentiment you're expressing makes domainers look very very bad.
 
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Alright alright. Get ready for a chuckle. As I hinted before in other threads. Government's might confiscate domains using country code extensions.

In this case it was .es .

Not going to complain as they said they would give back the domain after this crisis is over (supposedly).

I should have grabbed that $10k offer.

But after I blew off that offer because they tried to scare me that Spanish Gov would take it. I cut all communications. I don't like scare tactics just to get my domain.

I suspect buyer took revenge and notified Spanish Gov and they took action. Or maybe not and Spanish Gov did so anyways.

Marcaria said this domain would be "returned".

What are my rights in regards to this? I guess they can legally do this?

I mean after coronavirus is "over" what point is it to own coronavirus.es?

Also FYI as part of this also COVID19.es and covid-19.es was confiscated "temporarily".

Currently the domain resolves to no where but I'm sure soon it will.

Is this all legal? Will I lose this domain completely?

The wording from Marcaria is that it will be eventually returned after this crisis is over.

Pretty slick. Spanish Gov. I had planned on developing this domain to monetize now nothing.

Wonder what other. Countries will do this?

Are my rights being violated here by a Government? I suspect no but just curious.

Most likely, Spain sees this domain name as being important given the current situation and doesn't want it to fall in the hands of people who may push disinformation.

It could even be canceled (but likely won't). Rules from here:

An ".es" domain can be cancelled either by the Registry or at the request of a party in the following cases:

a) When the names of the β€œ.es” domain are requested by individuals or organisations with no legal personality that have no interests or maintain no links with Spain.​
 
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On subject ;)

I know it sucks that you missed a payday but I get them. No time in situations like this to negotiate. Anything seized by governments is fair game.

These type of names could be saving people's lives. Look on the bright side, you're attributing to saving lives!

Stay safe people!
 
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Maybe you can ask them for the $10K they offered, and tell them to keep it.

The last thing you want is for this to go viral, and you get labelled Spain's enemy #1.
 
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the no 1 reason stay away from cctlds...
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Any extension is vulnerable. France.com is a prime example. The government had the name taken from the owner and Web.com (the registrar) didn't even let the owner know. They had a proper business running from that domain.

https://unfairfrance.com/
 
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Without digging in the terms, i think the spanish government is covered in seizing domains for public interest. I think the idea behind it is to make a website to educate people and handle this crisis.

They are. They declared the national state of emergency.

They can seize whatever they need to protect their country and citizens as long as its within their jurisdiction. As they should.
 
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that's fine because I have not being providing Misinformation or profiteering or public relations.

That's just an excuse really. They needed it and they rather take it than pay what it's worth.
Not you, but anyone who owns these types of names could be a government target because of their potential for misuse if developed.......
 
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My whois shows it's been taken since '05. Would be very unlikely it's available.
Yeah, namecheap is bad about that. They show things available and they are not. I didn't try adding to cart. That's when it really checks I think.

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See the story about the guys that bought 17,000 bottles of hand sanitizer - They were almost made an example of. But, they are know and reputations are ruined.\

This kind of name, in the midst of a real pandemic, is a questionable decision.

Keep it up and you will make it on TV worldwide, maybe worse if some US Attorney General has a problem with it. PLUS... it is a true blemish on the industry.

Try donating it, and asking for a mention in a press release or link to a gov or ngo site - that's gold for SEO.
 
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You should have taken the offer especially considering the name. This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time you have told us that you messed up a deal with indecision and wanting more. Not every domain is a lottery ticket. Think and next timeβ€” take the deal.
 
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ok guys. I know I look like an opportunist from my complaining and unsympathetic. and every other label you want to put on me.

Let me give you all a reality check here. who will take sympathy for me actually forget me.I don't really care about what happens tome. what of my family? my family in these times?

I'm lucky that I am a full time domainer and not like most who are losing their jobs right now with no help from the gov and no help from jobs. But that does not mean I am out of harms way as far as financially because I do everything myself and every day as far as sales is not guaranteed.

I do believe this crisis will last a very long time.

I also believe it will dry out the well of domain purchases.

Also there seems to be this odd idea that I am taking away the benefit of this domain from the people of Spain.

As if I were asking the people of Spain to give me $200,000 for coronavirus.es out of their own pocket.

But let's forget about all that talk about money making at this point because that's NOT what this is all about.

Yea sure I wish I would have gotten some money for it for me to help support my family to make sure me and they aren't on the streets when this economy gets worse.

People on here seems to assume I'm some rich guy or perhaps someone who will survive in this crisis and I am not in the same boat as everyone else.

Is it wrong to want to have enough money in the bank during this crisis? so that your family won't have to worry? That money would have helped make sure if this crisis were to last 3 months or 6 months or 12 months or 10 years that my family would not have to worry much.

no one really knows.

You guys want to label me as some guy who wants to profit from the misery of others because of the keyword "coronavirus" in my domain.

So let's talk then about "unsavory domains" that people register to sell or develop.

1. R*pe 3,139 domain names
2. Ch*ld Abuse 350 domain names
3. Molested 37 domain names
4. Cancer 25,258 domain names
5. Death 17,985 domain names
6. Asbestos 6,488 domain names
7. accident 15,994 domain names
8. Injury 11,699 domain names
9. Malpractice 1,294 domain names
10. hate 9,782 domain names
11. racism 602 domain names
12. n*zi 3,918 domain names
13. poison 4,606 domain names
14. flu 72,986 domain names
15. Swine flu 211 domain names
16. hiv 19,449 domain names
17. aids 3,718 domain names
18. suicide 3,364 domain names
19. sexual harassment 404 domain names
20. pain 93,639 domain names
21. diabetes 19,728 domain names
22. abuse 2,798 domain names
23. Drug 37,888 domain names
24. heroin 2,728 domain names
25. cocaine 1,653 domain names
26. ebola 6,168 domain names
27. sars 2,175 domain names
28. Murder 4,894 domain names
29. crime 12,476 domain names
30. debt 28,117 domain names Debt causes misery
31. Genocide 437 domain names
32. Leprosy 140 domain names
33. War 184,102 domain names War causes misery
34. Guns 13,773 domain names
35. Virus (short for Coronavirus) 19,779 domain names
36. x** 53,102 domain names
37. Ad*lt 52,269 domain names
38. P*rn 92,000 domain names
39. herpes 2,530 domain names

40. Trump 48,647 domain names
41. Satan 3,854 domain names
42. Smoking 9,542 domain names
43. Vape 32,973 domain names
44. Smoke 31,656 domain names People die from smoking every year. Misery
45. vaping 3,666 domain names
46. slave 4,479 domain names
47. jav 56,017 domain names ( yes I know many can be longer than just JAV but you get it)
48. an*l 47,275 domain names
49. b*sm 6,465 domain names

50. Kill 39,118 domain names
51. Bet 381,149 domain names (gambling causes misery because people get addicted and start to bet beyond their means and go broke and end up homeless or worse.)
52. Casino 71,491 domain names (same as above)
53. Gambling 6,897 domain names (same as above)

54. Coronavirus 7,031 domain names
55. Corona 25,602 domain names
56. Covid 7,794 domain names
57. covid19 3,374 domain names




Many domains are registered with the keywords above. Why? Many of these have caused misery since the dawn of time. yet many of these keywords have been registered in many extensions. why?

you can "say" that many of these are being used to help people.Sure but in the light of day we "all" know what these domains were registered for.

for example. Cancer. Cancer kills and has been killing people for a very very long time. Still is. Do we automatically label the registrant of such domains as some disgusting profiteer? Are they all donated to some organization?

Most of these are owned by lawyers.

Injury
Accident
Asbestos

Lawyer is a respectable profession is it not?

How about diabetes? I have diabetes. many die from this eventually. Lose their eyesight and a leg. Misery.

Ebola.
Suicide
Asbestos Causes cancer. misery
Accidents many accidents end in death. Misery
Injury many injuries are painful and by default cause misery.
Death Death is death. Can't be more misery than death. misery
Guns Guns have killed more people than any Virus ever has or will. Misery
Firearms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate



Many many keywords. so much misery.

I mean heck. even adult industry is not exempt from this. I know it's sexy but the things women and men are put thru in that industry just because they "need the money". that's misery.

imagine some girl in Thailand who needs money to feed her family or kids giving her body to some fat hairy European man for just $25?

that's misery.

yet. this misery content seems acceptable these days. Everyone looks at this content but never think of the "cost" these "stars" have to pay just so you can get your "jollies"

No one complains about domainers profiting from the sale of such domains. in fact there is a section dedicated to such domains on Namepros.

what makes coronavirus.es any different? because it is the current trending thing that's killing people?

I get it guys. when a thread like this pops up people need to take sides and feel the need to speak out and take the moral high ground or risk being assumed they are "For" the registering of unsavory domains.

it's good for business to throw another domainer under the bus to make yourselves look goods.

Did I register coronavirus.es with the hopes of selling it. Honestly? I don't really know anymore.

Sometimes. when I get the idea to register a domain it's on my mobile when I'm about to go to bed tired and it's about 2-3 am Kinda like right now typing this.

and registering a domain like coronavirus domain was just a quick reg and forget about it.

really isn't as sinister as you guys are protraying it to be.

When I register domains it's usually on impulse. after which I decide what to do with it.

Did I really know know what I was going to do with it? not really. The basic idea is to sell it yes.

but ideas change over time. One minute you reg a domain to sell the next you decide to develop. or even worse. you forget you own it.

but if there's an offer for it. you're glad you have it.

that's it in a nutshell. If you want to label that as sinister be my guest.

it's all about getting it first and then figure out later. in this industry you need to act quick so at least you have options on what to do with it. As opposed to not having the options because someone else got it first.

and based on the fact coronavirus got registered in pretty much all extensions it was a good idea. not that I can make money from it. but because I'm one of a handful of domainers who got to register an EMD before the registries got to it or someone else.

I really did not know what I was going to do with the domains. Thinking now about it.
The registries themselves should have purchased these domains back from me and used them for self promotion.

Also, come to think of it. I haven't even actively marketed any of my coronavirus domains. so why is it automatically assumed my ultimate goal was to make a killing on these domains? I have an efty account. Never got around to even linking these domains to that.

If anyone were to ask me about these domains personally yea sure I'd be happy if I sold this domain for big bucks. who wouldn't during these scary times? would be nice to have that money in the bank while the economy recovers and not have to worry about your family eating and bills paid.

I'll admit. I feel attacked right now because of the opinions of a few.

So let me throw some "logic" into the mix.

anyone who is reading this thread right now and trying to figure out what to side to take based on the few opinions on here.

because of the opinions here I feel singled out as "that one guy who registered a coronavirus domain and is wanting a big pay day"

that's the opinion of a couple and I admit it's damning to my credibility as a domainer

I see there are currently 64 replies to this thread. yea? let's assume all of them are against me. most likely this is true.

most reading this will say "damn! 64 people against this guy? I guess that must be the concensus. So we should take the side of those 64 people because it's so many so they must be right."

ok if this is how you all will "vote" I can respect that.

but here is the thing. READY? are you listening? How many "coronavirus", "covid", "Covid19", "covid-19" domains are registered out there?

Covid - 6,930 domain names
Coronavirus - 6,756

6756+6930= 13,686

My point is simple. Whoever these 13,686 people or registries are. felt compelled to secure these domains. Sure some did so for humanitarianism but let's be real many expect to profit from it.


But forget these 13,686 domains for a minute. Add up all the numbers above for all the "unsavory domains" I listed above. That number? It's going to be in the hundreds of thousands.

That's hundreds of thousands vs. 64.

each one of those are of the "opinion" FOR the registration of unsavory domains like Coronavirus.

These registrants many are probably not on this forum to voice their opinion on registering coronavirus domains. OR because of how I am being witch hunted on here are SCARED to admit they own such domains.

but NEVERTHELESS I count each registration as a an unspoken OPINION that is FOR the registration of coronavirus domains.

64 opinions versus 13,686 silent opinions that we'll never hear from but STILL COUNT because hey. Each one of these "opinions" these registrants PAID FOR. It's literally a PAID OPINION.

So in a way paid opinions carry more weight because it's not an opinion that people did not pay for.

So if you are reading this and wondering about which side to take on this.

Bear in mind the registrants of many of the 13,686 "coronavirus" domains have privacy on their domains for good reason given the replies on this thread. so there is a possibility many who are AGAINST the registration of coronavirus domains may probably own some coronavirus domains. We all know there are shady people among us.

Just like how anyone on the street right now could have the coronavirus. Any domainer right now could have coronavirus domains and WE DON'T KNOW.

In an industry where people shill bid domains? I can see people trash talking registrants of coronavirus domains when in fact they own some themselves but have privacy.

Anyways, I like facts. Fact is there are 64 opinions AGAINST ME and every other domainer registering coronavirus domains are theoretically 13,686 opinions FOR the registering of coronavirus domains many I'm guessing has to be for the purpose of profiteering.

or are we going to be irrational now and say that each one of those or half of those or a quarter of those registered coronavirus domains BUT are against domainers registering coronavirus domains?

That doesn't make sense now does it?

so if you take sides based on a score board.

13,686 kinda blows out 64 or am I doing the math wrong here?

When we create an environment where people can't register certain domains and talk about it, no matter how noble you feel what you are doing may be. it's still as bad as being the registrant of a coronavirus domain. Shaming them to the point that they regret posting it just makes them inclined never to do it again.

How would discussions like this happen again if people's automatic inclination is to shame people wouldn't people fear sharing their unsavory domains?

why am I saying all of this? because to be honest the replies on this thread hurt my feelings. People I have come to admire on here seem to now want to gang up on me on this topic.

Again I repeat. I did not have to post this on NP. perhaps I have diarrhea of the fingers and just type what's in my head at the time. No filter. but at least you all know me like an open book. so like me or hate me warts and all. up to you.

So in summation. I am not going to retract that the Spanish Gov did not buy the domain. Am I ok with the fact that the domain is now going to be used to help the Spanish people? yes of course, I'm not a total d*ck.

So what the hell was the point of this thread? why am I so pissed?

I am pissed for the same reasons any domainer should be pissed.

To have options taken from you.

to have something taken from you without permission. without even a civilized kind request that 100% would have gotten a YES.

not even at "Please allow us the Spain Gov to take or borrow coronavirus.es domain for the time being because of the current crisis."

All the other stuff I said about money is irrelevant because the domain was TAKEN.

You see. I was never asked by the Spanish Government if they could borrow coronavirus.es which means I was never even given the opportunity to ask for say $500,000 for it or more IMPORTANTLY NOT ASK for $500,000 for it. It was I guess just assumed I was going to ask for a lot of money.

So basically THIS is how Spain sees ALL DOMAINERS by default.

again I cannot confirm that that $10,000 offer was from Spain so I have to assume it was not.

This is not about some domainer profiteering from a coronavirus domain.

This is a country (granted in a crisis) deciding on it's own to take a domain removing all doubts if the owner might say no if asked.

I believe EVERYONE needs the opportunity to shine and yes I know there are more pressing matters right now in the world besides me "shining".

but is it really such a huge ASK to give me the opportunity to donate coronavirus.es to the spain gov?

My initial reaction was all over the place and I'm sure I said a lot of things people did not like but let's not get side tracked here.

This whole thing was just not done right. As if I really would have said NO if the Spain Government simply asked me plainly. "may we have or use or borrow coronavirus.es until this crisis is over?"

Another thing. We all register domains in the "hopes" of selling it and making a bucket of money. But at the same time we are realistic. At least I hope most of us are in thinking that many of our domains will never ever sell. So why should I care if Spain Gov doesn't buy Coronavirus.es. I am already in the mind set that none of my domains will sell. That way no expectations no regrets.

Am I pissed they did not buy it? sure but I think I am really more pissed of how they did it. maybe that anger carried over to them not buying it just a smidge and got all jumbled in there. I mean seriously many of you know my collection of domains and are confident I am losing money. So why should I really care if Spain doesn't buy coronavirus.es? I lose money all the time on stupid domain registrations. What's one more "no sale"?

It's about 4 am right now so probably much of what I said on here you should take with a grain of salt because I'm tired and wrote all of this half asleep. so I probably wrote even more stuff to inflame even more people. Plus tons of typos.

Apologies in advance.

And remember. Registering a domain is an Opinion by default.

You registered that domain because you thought it was a good idea and it's an unsavory domain than you are of the opinion that registering such domains is "okay".

And you don't need to publicly go on a forum and publicly announce it or take sides. Your domain registration speaks loud enough. So either there's a few hundred thousand immoral *ssh*les out there or there are simply domain investors out there?


Good night or Good morning.

I disagree that all the words you listed are misery causing or bad. You just look worse when you do these long rants trying to justify the unjustifiable. I would have pounced on that 10 K offer, real or not. Who gives a shit what email they use? Why didn’t you think of your family before GREED?

As I said many times before and someone eloquently pointed out above you have no uncrossable lines regarding domains and thats a dangerous thing. You also seem to make the same mistakes over and over and then we get a woe is me thread.
 
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The current narrative is thousands of people dying of the the word this EMD is.

The narrative is how unfair this is to you - the loss of a reg fee.

While Spain, Italy, all Europe - the Middle East, and now the US is under a state of emergency in the midst of a worldwide pandemic.

What does any sale that happened while not under a state if emergency and a worldwide pandemic - resulting in thousands of deaths? What does what anyone else "got" matter to this situation?

You have no possible or reasonable comparison at all. By the way, if you owned a toy company right now - the US war production act (n force now) gives them the right to take your factory and make whatever the Gov. need or wants to make - you have NO CHOICE.
 
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Alright alright. Get ready for a chuckle. As I hinted before in other threads. Government's might confiscate domains using country code extensions.

In this case it was .es .

Not going to complain as they said they would give back the domain after this crisis is over (supposedly).

I should have grabbed that $10k offer.

But after I blew off that offer because they tried to scare me that Spanish Gov would take it. I cut all communications. I don't like scare tactics just to get my domain.

I suspect buyer took revenge and notified Spanish Gov and they took action. Or maybe not and Spanish Gov did so anyways.

Marcaria said this domain would be "returned".

What are my rights in regards to this? I guess they can legally do this?

I mean after coronavirus is "over" what point is it to own coronavirus.es?

Also FYI as part of this also COVID19.es and covid-19.es was confiscated "temporarily".

Currently the domain resolves to no where but I'm sure soon it will.

Is this all legal? Will I lose this domain completely?

The wording from Marcaria is that it will be eventually returned after this crisis is over.

Pretty slick. Spanish Gov. I had planned on developing this domain to monetize now nothing.

Wonder what other. Countries will do this?

Are my rights being violated here by a Government? I suspect no but just curious.

Hi, im from Spain, I watched this on a Spanish forum (someone found it). I make an account to respond you. Apologize for my English, is not my native language.

In first place, .es domains are under Spanish control (a fact that you have seen by yourself). I don't want to enter in the fact of the speculation, I think that depends on the values of each one of us.

I want to tell you that, in the last weeks, there is a lot of disinformation in the Internet about the virus and the government, and a lot of this info only tries to delegitimize the government, fake news that are making a lot of damage and triggering alarmism in the population. And what is more important, many of this fake news is being transmitted by political parties, even on the TV and their "spaces for their speeches"

We are on state of alert, is a delicate moment and this fake propaganda can do more damage than the virus itself. So, the goverment is taking action (with the help of social medias and other companies) to stop that. I think is very possible that they reacted actively to avoid that domain being used for illegitimate purposes.

An example, Whatsapp is limiting the resend of messages to 5 resends. After that, that message is blocked and any try to resend it massively is blocked, you need to resend it 1 by 1. Even youtube puts a banner in any covid related video (I don't know if that happens only on Spain or even in the rest of the world) linking to information from official sources.

Regarding the money and your purpose of monetize the web, they offered you a lot of money for the domain. There's a saying in Spain, "greed breaks the bag". As you said, you should grabbed the money.
Anyway, I hope that when all this ends, my goverment return you the domain.

I hope that this message helps you understand our situation. Stay safe!
 
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Update. Coronavirus.es was just renewed by me today. Marcaria alerted me that my domain coronavirus.es was up for renewal. So I renewed it.

So now coronavirus.es is renewed until 1-17-22.

Not exactly sure what this means but just in case I figured better to renew it and risk losing $21 or having the option to get back coronavirus.es once the state of alarm is over.

FYI in October the Spanish Gov enacted another 6 month state of alarm lockdown in Spain.

I had chalked up Coronavirus.es as no longer mine because this is what I was told. I really don't know what is going on with this now. Either way I am prepared for anything.
 
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Governments can change legislation/laws at the flick of a switch in times of national/international emergency.

They are not messing around with this one. Misinformation, profiteering and public relations are very real concerns and they will take steps to guard against these and other areas...
 
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here's the screenshot that was sent to me by Marcaria

Anyone spanish care to translate?

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Basically, they say Spain has declared a state of emergency - by Royal Decree - and needed to seize those three domains. They did so in order to protect the health and safety of citizens. The domains should be returned once the state of emergency ends.

As a domainer, I do understand your frustration. You didn't use the domain for anything inappropriate, obviously. But, once sold, you would have had no control over it.
 
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I don't mind them taking it since they said they will return it. That's fine and good. But currently I'm a full time domainer.

From this point on the economy will suck.

God only knows when it will pick up again. In uncertain times like this having an exact match domain is or was a comfort income wise. People have labeled me as "all about money".

But people who say such things speak from a vantage point of wealth or "well to do" or of comfort and stability.

To take this domain at a crucial point where it has its highest potential for a high ticket sale is just wrong.

I mean we're talking about a government taking these and not a corporation with a budget. Government that justifies spending billions on Fighter jets jets or bailing out rich Banks.

So instead of making an offer they choose to take?

I'm not gonna argue as they might just take it totally and never return it. Glad it is being put to good use. Still could have been put to good use of they bought it.

Like I said, no time to worry about the legal side or complications of the decisions made when lives are at stake. They've got citizens to protect.

I feel you though, Corona is definitely messing with my cash flow so profiting from a related domain sale would set the score.

Once (if ever) they return that domain it will hold some value based on the backlinks I suppose. It's not the best outcome, but also not the worst, long term.
 
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Well it is a ccTLD, which means it is governed outside ICANN.

I suspect that they have language in their TOS that allows it.
Practically speaking I am not sure you have much recourse unfortunately.

Brad
 
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.es Domains Dispute & Policy NIC.es uses a variation of UDRP.

Relevant differences between the procedure for .es and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) include the following:

  • Whereas the UDRP is limited to the protection of trademark rights against infringement through bad-faith registration and use of a domain name, under the procedure for .es a Claimant must establish that the registration or use of the domain name constitutes an infringement of rights protected in Spain, which may concern trademarks but may also concern different types of intellectual property or certain other rights (see Rules, article 2, definition of "Derechos Previos" and of "Registro de Nombres de Dominio de CarΓ‘cter Especulativo o Abusivo").
  • No three-member panels are possible.
    The most recent source for this dispute policy can be found at: www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/policy

    Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy

    1. Purpose.
    This Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Policy") has been adopted by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("ICANN"), is incorporated by reference into your Registration Agreement, and sets forth the terms and conditions in connection with a dispute between you and any party other than us (the .es registrar) over the registration and use of an Internet domain name registered by you. Proceedings under Paragraph 4 of this Policy will be conducted according to the Rules for Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Rules of Procedure"), which are available at www.icann.org/udrp/udrp-rules-24oct99.htm, and the selected administrative-dispute-resolution service provider's supplemental rules.
    2. Your Representations.
    By applying to register a domain name, or by asking us to maintain or renew a domain name registration, you hereby represent and warrant to us that (a) the statements that you made in your Registration Agreement are complete and accurate; (b) to your knowledge, the registration of the domain name will not infringe upon or otherwise violate the rights of any third party; (c) you are not registering the domain name for an unlawful purpose; and (d) you will not knowingly use the domain name in violation of any applicable laws or regulations. It is your responsibility to determine whether your domain name registration infringes or violates someone else's rights.
    3. Cancellations, Transfers, and Changes.
    We will cancel, transfer or otherwise make changes to domain name registrations under the following circumstances:
    a. subject to the provisions of Paragraph 8, our receipt of written or appropriate electronic instructions from you or your authorized agent to take such action;
    b. our receipt of an order from a court or arbitral tribunal, in each case of competent jurisdiction, requiring such action; and/or
    c. our receipt of a decision of an Administrative Panel requiring such action in any administrative proceeding to which you were a party and which was conducted under this Policy or a later version of this Policy adopted by ICANN or the .es Registry. (See Paragraph 4(i) and (k) below.)
    We may also cancel, transfer or otherwise make changes to a domain name registration in accordance with the terms of your Registration Agreement or other legal requirements.
    4. Mandatory Administrative Proceeding.
    This Paragraph sets forth the type of disputes for which you are required to submit to a mandatory administrative proceeding. These proceedings will be conducted before one of the administrative-dispute-resolution service providers listed at www.icann.org/en/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm (each, a "Provider").
    a. Applicable Disputes. You are required to submit to a mandatory administrative proceeding in the event that a third party (a "complainant") asserts to the applicable Provider, in compliance with the Rules of Procedure, that
    (i) your domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the complainant has rights; and
    (ii) you have no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; and
    (iii) your domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith.
    In the administrative proceeding, the complainant must prove that each of these three elements are present.
    b. Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. For the purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(iii), the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be present, shall be evidence of the registration and use of a domain name in bad faith:
    (i) circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or
    (ii) you have registered the domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or
    (iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or
    (iv) by using the domain name, you have intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, Internet users to your web site or other on-line location, by creating a likelihood of cpr144449003101 confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site or location or of a product or service on your web site or location.
    c. How to Demonstrate Your Rights to and Legitimate Interests in the Domain Name in Responding to a Complaint. When you receive a complaint, you should refer to Paragraph 5 of the Rules of Procedure in determining how your response should be prepared. Any of the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be proved based on its evaluation of all evidence presented, shall demonstrate your rights or legitimate interests to the domain name for purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(ii):
    (i) before any notice to you of the dispute, your use of, or demonstrable preparations to use, the domain name or a name corresponding to the domain name in connection with a bona fide offering of goods or services; or
    (ii) you (as an individual, business, or other organization) have been commonly known by the domain name, even if you have acquired no trademark or service mark rights; or
    (iii) you are making a legitimate noncommercial or fair use of the domain name, without intent for commercial gain to misleadingly divert consumers or to tarnish the trademark or service mark at issue.
    d. Selection of Provider. The complainant shall select the Provider from among those approved by ICANN by submitting the complaint to that Provider. The selected Provider will administer the proceeding, except in cases of consolidation as described in Paragraph 4(f).
    e. Initiation of Proceeding and Process and Appointment of Administrative Panel. The Rules of Procedure state the process for initiating and conducting a proceeding and for appointing the panel that will decide the dispute (the "Administrative Panel").
    f. Consolidation. In the event of multiple disputes between you and a complainant, either you or the complainant may petition to consolidate the disputes before a single Administrative Panel. This petition shall be made to the first Administrative Panel appointed to hear a pending dispute between the parties. This Administrative Panel may consolidate before it any or all such disputes in its sole discretion, provided that the disputes being consolidated are governed by this Policy or a later version of this Policy adopted by ICANN or the .es Registry.
    g. Fees. All fees charged by a Provider in connection with any dispute before an Administrative Panel pursuant to this Policy shall be paid by the complainant, except in cases where you elect to expand the Administrative Panel from one to three panelists as provided in Paragraph 5(b)(iv) of the Rules of Procedure, in which case all fees will be split evenly by you and the complainant.
    h. Our Involvement in Administrative Proceedings. We do not, and will not, participate in the administration or conduct of any proceeding before an Administrative Panel. In addition, we will not be liable as a result of any decisions rendered by the Administrative Panel.
    i. Remedies. The remedies available to a complainant pursuant to any proceeding before an Administrative Panel shall be limited to requiring the cancellation of your domain name or the transfer of your domain name registration to the complainant.
    j. Notification and Publication. The Provider shall notify us of any decision made by an Administrative Panel with respect to a domain name you have registered with us. All decisions under this Policy will be published in full over the Internet, except when an Administrative Panel determines in an exceptional case to redact portions of its decision.
    k. Availability of Court Proceedings. The mandatory administrative proceeding requirements set forth in Paragraph 4 shall not prevent either you or the complainant from submitting the dispute to a court of competent jurisdiction for independent resolution before such mandatory administrative proceeding is commenced or after such proceeding is concluded. If an Administrative Panel decides that your domain name registration should be canceled or transferred, we will wait ten (10) business days (as observed in the location of our principal office) after we are informed by the applicable Provider of the Administrative Panel's decision before implementing that decision. We will then implement the decision unless we have received from you during that ten (10) business day period official documentation (such as a copy of a complaint, file-stamped by the clerk of the court) that you have commenced a lawsuit against the complainant in a jurisdiction to which the complainant has submitted under Paragraph 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure. (In general, that jurisdiction is either the location of our principal office or of your address as shown in our Whois database. See Paragraphs 1 and 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure for details.) If we receive such documentation within the ten (10) business day period, we will not implement the Administrative Panel's decision, and we will take no further action, until we receive (i) evidence satisfactory to us of a resolution between the parties; (ii) evidence satisfactory to us that your lawsuit has been dismissed or withdrawn; or (iii) a copy of an order from such court dismissing your lawsuit or ordering that you do not have the right to continue to use your domain name.
    5. All Other Disputes and Litigation.
    All other disputes between you and any party other than us regarding your domain name registration that are not brought pursuant to the mandatory administrative proceeding provisions of Paragraph 4 shall be resolved between you and such other party through any court, arbitration or other proceeding that may be available.
There is also their T&C here https://www.dominios.es/dominios/si... y condiciones_UF_17_05_2018 (v 3) + logo.pdf
 
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Did you really expect a country to buy a domain from you ? I mean come on, laws can be made in 5 minutes and seize every domain that is related to corona virus... Really...

In Romania there were a bunch of domains seized and shut down by authorities because they added fake news and such. Governments take it really seriously.
 
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