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Alright alright. Get ready for a chuckle. As I hinted before in other threads. Government's might confiscate domains using country code extensions.

In this case it was .es .

Not going to complain as they said they would give back the domain after this crisis is over (supposedly).

I should have grabbed that $10k offer.

But after I blew off that offer because they tried to scare me that Spanish Gov would take it. I cut all communications. I don't like scare tactics just to get my domain.

I suspect buyer took revenge and notified Spanish Gov and they took action. Or maybe not and Spanish Gov did so anyways.

Marcaria said this domain would be "returned".

What are my rights in regards to this? I guess they can legally do this?

I mean after coronavirus is "over" what point is it to own coronavirus.es?

Also FYI as part of this also COVID19.es and covid-19.es was confiscated "temporarily".

Currently the domain resolves to no where but I'm sure soon it will.

Is this all legal? Will I lose this domain completely?

The wording from Marcaria is that it will be eventually returned after this crisis is over.

Pretty slick. Spanish Gov. I had planned on developing this domain to monetize now nothing.

Wonder what other. Countries will do this?

Are my rights being violated here by a Government? I suspect no but just curious.
 
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No doubt. I think they took it because they could rather than pay. We're talking about a government not a budget conscious corp.

I hope I don't start hearing "you should just let the poor Spain Government have it out of the kindness of your heart because they don't have to money to pay your six figure price.

Countries can afford to buy $100 billion dollar jets just for the hell of it.

But would rather take a domain from a domainer who is going to experience like everyone else economic hardship.

I mean if it asked by a charity or info site then I'd probably would have donated it to be used temporarily.

But to not be asked first? Not to give me an opportunity to rise to the occasion and just give it over?

This is why I suspect now that that $10,000 offer was from the Gov rep.

They figured "this guy just wants alot of money."

I wonder. If it can be proven that the Spain Gov had a rep contact me to negotiate for the domain but I asked for too much or I just blocked them but they needed these domains immediately so they just took it.

It's like when an inbound comes in and negotiations fail and the inbound decides to use UDRP.

isn't that like a form of reverse hijacking?

Agree. Could've been them. No way to tell?

Even if it was them, from a humanitarian pov I don't blame them. It does suck though.

As for law... I dunno. It's not like we ever dealt with a pandemic like this so who's to say what's right and what's wrong?
 
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I wonder what governing body handles disputes with .es domains.

Does the buck stop always at the registry of the CCtld?

I'm ok with them using it to help people. I'm not a monster. I don't even mind them not paying me at this point.

It's the way it was done. But I wasn't even given the opportunity to "shine" here.

To be able to publicly be shown on some kind of publicity. Similar to.

"GoDaddy buys Coronavirus.com and uses it to get the word out on Coronavirus."

That looks good to boost the rep of a company doesn't it?

I wasn't even given this opportunity. I'm just some a**hole they took coronavirus.es from.

I would have liked something like "WhoaDomain.com loans Spain Gov to use Coronavirus.es to get the word out about coronavirus."
 
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This week we have seen the "unbelievable" happen. This domain situation keeps that theme. Absolutely unbelievable they just took it from you.
 
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Well it is a ccTLD, which means it is governed outside ICANN.

I suspect that they have language in their TOS that allows it.
Practically speaking I am not sure you have much recourse unfortunately.

Brad
 
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Well it is a ccTLD, which means it is governed outside ICANN.

I suspect that they have language in their TOS that allows it.
Practically speaking I am not sure you have much recourse unfortunately.

Brad

Yea I suspect as much. Good info. I was just looking at whether ICANN governs them. So that said is it IANA?
 
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Maybe you can ask them for the $10K they offered, and tell them to keep it.

The last thing you want is for this to go viral, and you get labelled Spain's enemy #1.
 
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.es Domains Dispute & Policy NIC.es uses a variation of UDRP.

Relevant differences between the procedure for .es and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) include the following:

  • Whereas the UDRP is limited to the protection of trademark rights against infringement through bad-faith registration and use of a domain name, under the procedure for .es a Claimant must establish that the registration or use of the domain name constitutes an infringement of rights protected in Spain, which may concern trademarks but may also concern different types of intellectual property or certain other rights (see Rules, article 2, definition of "Derechos Previos" and of "Registro de Nombres de Dominio de Carácter Especulativo o Abusivo").
  • No three-member panels are possible.
    The most recent source for this dispute policy can be found at: www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/policy

    Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy

    1. Purpose.
    This Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Policy") has been adopted by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("ICANN"), is incorporated by reference into your Registration Agreement, and sets forth the terms and conditions in connection with a dispute between you and any party other than us (the .es registrar) over the registration and use of an Internet domain name registered by you. Proceedings under Paragraph 4 of this Policy will be conducted according to the Rules for Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Rules of Procedure"), which are available at www.icann.org/udrp/udrp-rules-24oct99.htm, and the selected administrative-dispute-resolution service provider's supplemental rules.
    2. Your Representations.
    By applying to register a domain name, or by asking us to maintain or renew a domain name registration, you hereby represent and warrant to us that (a) the statements that you made in your Registration Agreement are complete and accurate; (b) to your knowledge, the registration of the domain name will not infringe upon or otherwise violate the rights of any third party; (c) you are not registering the domain name for an unlawful purpose; and (d) you will not knowingly use the domain name in violation of any applicable laws or regulations. It is your responsibility to determine whether your domain name registration infringes or violates someone else's rights.
    3. Cancellations, Transfers, and Changes.
    We will cancel, transfer or otherwise make changes to domain name registrations under the following circumstances:
    a. subject to the provisions of Paragraph 8, our receipt of written or appropriate electronic instructions from you or your authorized agent to take such action;
    b. our receipt of an order from a court or arbitral tribunal, in each case of competent jurisdiction, requiring such action; and/or
    c. our receipt of a decision of an Administrative Panel requiring such action in any administrative proceeding to which you were a party and which was conducted under this Policy or a later version of this Policy adopted by ICANN or the .es Registry. (See Paragraph 4(i) and (k) below.)
    We may also cancel, transfer or otherwise make changes to a domain name registration in accordance with the terms of your Registration Agreement or other legal requirements.
    4. Mandatory Administrative Proceeding.
    This Paragraph sets forth the type of disputes for which you are required to submit to a mandatory administrative proceeding. These proceedings will be conducted before one of the administrative-dispute-resolution service providers listed at www.icann.org/en/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm (each, a "Provider").
    a. Applicable Disputes. You are required to submit to a mandatory administrative proceeding in the event that a third party (a "complainant") asserts to the applicable Provider, in compliance with the Rules of Procedure, that
    (i) your domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the complainant has rights; and
    (ii) you have no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; and
    (iii) your domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith.
    In the administrative proceeding, the complainant must prove that each of these three elements are present.
    b. Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. For the purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(iii), the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be present, shall be evidence of the registration and use of a domain name in bad faith:
    (i) circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or
    (ii) you have registered the domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or
    (iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or
    (iv) by using the domain name, you have intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, Internet users to your web site or other on-line location, by creating a likelihood of cpr144449003101 confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site or location or of a product or service on your web site or location.
    c. How to Demonstrate Your Rights to and Legitimate Interests in the Domain Name in Responding to a Complaint. When you receive a complaint, you should refer to Paragraph 5 of the Rules of Procedure in determining how your response should be prepared. Any of the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be proved based on its evaluation of all evidence presented, shall demonstrate your rights or legitimate interests to the domain name for purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(ii):
    (i) before any notice to you of the dispute, your use of, or demonstrable preparations to use, the domain name or a name corresponding to the domain name in connection with a bona fide offering of goods or services; or
    (ii) you (as an individual, business, or other organization) have been commonly known by the domain name, even if you have acquired no trademark or service mark rights; or
    (iii) you are making a legitimate noncommercial or fair use of the domain name, without intent for commercial gain to misleadingly divert consumers or to tarnish the trademark or service mark at issue.
    d. Selection of Provider. The complainant shall select the Provider from among those approved by ICANN by submitting the complaint to that Provider. The selected Provider will administer the proceeding, except in cases of consolidation as described in Paragraph 4(f).
    e. Initiation of Proceeding and Process and Appointment of Administrative Panel. The Rules of Procedure state the process for initiating and conducting a proceeding and for appointing the panel that will decide the dispute (the "Administrative Panel").
    f. Consolidation. In the event of multiple disputes between you and a complainant, either you or the complainant may petition to consolidate the disputes before a single Administrative Panel. This petition shall be made to the first Administrative Panel appointed to hear a pending dispute between the parties. This Administrative Panel may consolidate before it any or all such disputes in its sole discretion, provided that the disputes being consolidated are governed by this Policy or a later version of this Policy adopted by ICANN or the .es Registry.
    g. Fees. All fees charged by a Provider in connection with any dispute before an Administrative Panel pursuant to this Policy shall be paid by the complainant, except in cases where you elect to expand the Administrative Panel from one to three panelists as provided in Paragraph 5(b)(iv) of the Rules of Procedure, in which case all fees will be split evenly by you and the complainant.
    h. Our Involvement in Administrative Proceedings. We do not, and will not, participate in the administration or conduct of any proceeding before an Administrative Panel. In addition, we will not be liable as a result of any decisions rendered by the Administrative Panel.
    i. Remedies. The remedies available to a complainant pursuant to any proceeding before an Administrative Panel shall be limited to requiring the cancellation of your domain name or the transfer of your domain name registration to the complainant.
    j. Notification and Publication. The Provider shall notify us of any decision made by an Administrative Panel with respect to a domain name you have registered with us. All decisions under this Policy will be published in full over the Internet, except when an Administrative Panel determines in an exceptional case to redact portions of its decision.
    k. Availability of Court Proceedings. The mandatory administrative proceeding requirements set forth in Paragraph 4 shall not prevent either you or the complainant from submitting the dispute to a court of competent jurisdiction for independent resolution before such mandatory administrative proceeding is commenced or after such proceeding is concluded. If an Administrative Panel decides that your domain name registration should be canceled or transferred, we will wait ten (10) business days (as observed in the location of our principal office) after we are informed by the applicable Provider of the Administrative Panel's decision before implementing that decision. We will then implement the decision unless we have received from you during that ten (10) business day period official documentation (such as a copy of a complaint, file-stamped by the clerk of the court) that you have commenced a lawsuit against the complainant in a jurisdiction to which the complainant has submitted under Paragraph 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure. (In general, that jurisdiction is either the location of our principal office or of your address as shown in our Whois database. See Paragraphs 1 and 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure for details.) If we receive such documentation within the ten (10) business day period, we will not implement the Administrative Panel's decision, and we will take no further action, until we receive (i) evidence satisfactory to us of a resolution between the parties; (ii) evidence satisfactory to us that your lawsuit has been dismissed or withdrawn; or (iii) a copy of an order from such court dismissing your lawsuit or ordering that you do not have the right to continue to use your domain name.
    5. All Other Disputes and Litigation.
    All other disputes between you and any party other than us regarding your domain name registration that are not brought pursuant to the mandatory administrative proceeding provisions of Paragraph 4 shall be resolved between you and such other party through any court, arbitration or other proceeding that may be available.
There is also their T&C here https://www.dominios.es/dominios/si... y condiciones_UF_17_05_2018 (v 3) + logo.pdf
 
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I wonder what governing body handles disputes with .es domains.

Does the buck stop always at the registry of the CCtld?

I'm ok with them using it to help people. I'm not a monster. I don't even mind them not paying me at this point.

It's the way it was done. But I wasn't even given the opportunity to "shine" here.

To be able to publicly be shown on some kind of publicity. Similar to.

"GoDaddy buys Coronavirus.com and uses it to get the word out on Coronavirus."

That looks good to boost the rep of a company doesn't it?

I wasn't even given this opportunity. I'm just some a**hole they took coronavirus.es from.

I would have liked something like "WhoaDomain.com loans Spain Gov to use Coronavirus.es to get the word out about coronavirus."

IANA https://icannwiki.org/Country_code_top-level_domain
 
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Governments can go to Hell, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure there's one truly democratic government in the world (I have a draft article at MEVoting.com). In my opinion governments are as likely to seize domains to censor truth telling and/or spread propaganda as for any purpose which benefits the population.
 
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Maybe you can ask them for the $10K they offered, and tell them to keep it.

The last thing you want is for this to go viral, and you get labelled Spain's enemy #1.

I have no issue with them using it. It's how they did it. And yes there is there is the money.

Just like with a real estate developer that forgot to register a domain that's an EMD for their property. Or a corp that forgot to register their company name.

Mistakes cost money. I had the foresight to register coronavirus.es before the government of an entire nation. Think about that for a second.

Doesn't say much about whoever was responsible for that.

Again. As I've repeated before. We are not talking about a corporation that has a budget.

Are we to say that the nation of Spain can't afford to buy a six figure domain to help inform and save it's people?

I'm sure such an amount is a drop in the bucket. Meanwhile the entire global economy is tanking everyone's lively hood right now is in jeopardy.

But somehow I'm labeled a d*ck for complaining.

Not registering domains like COVID19.es and covid-19.es and coronavirus.es speaks to the poor management of a gov.

It's almost like this government "forgot" about making plans aka some info website to help it's people. Very poor planning.

Me being hated by a Spain? This is what it is. I'm pretty much 100% sure now that inquiry was a rep for the gov. Negotiations failed because they tried high pressure scare tactics.

I even offered already to work with them and let them use the domain so long as I get ads on there. It was all set. I wasn't going to get any money. I was going to let them use it then last minute they offered $10,000 with a side comment that I should consider it because Spain is in alert mode and will take it.

Again that did not rub me the right way. So I should be happy to take your $10,000 because you say Spain will take it anyway? That right?

After that I told him not to contact me again and that I blocked him.

It is what it is. Spain tried to buy it for cheap because to hell with domainers. And when that failed. Take it.

Simple as that. Many will took issue with my registering Coronavirus domains so naturally they will take Spain's side.

No one will say it's wrong to blindside someone and take their domain and give it back once it's worthless because it was bad to register Coronavirus domains anyway so this domainer got what he deserved.

But please pay attention to one thing regardless of whether this is a pandemic or not this could have been done to ANY OTHER .es domain.

The point is they CAN and they will if it means they save money.

Many ways to think of this.

One way is Spain does not care about domainers in general so much so they will just take .es domains.

You can say this is an isolated incident because of Coronavirus but if you think logically is it really?

I can see Spain borrowing any .es domain to suit it's purpose to avoid paying anything. There is no reasons why Spain couldn't afford to outright buy Coronavirus.es and the others. I mean is Spain broke?

Spain now has an army of drones to help monitor and make sure people are staying home.

How much did that cost? Drones to monitor an entire country? $$$$$

But an exact match web address to help get the word out? Nah we're not paying for that.

Did that drone company donate it's services? What about the ventilator companies providing equipment?

You can say what you want about profiteering from Coronavirus and how bad it is and I will agree 100%.

But nevertheless there will be profiteering. From masks to hand sanitizers etc etc.

You can hate me all you want but if your domain was taken. You'd be complaining to.

Writing this domain off. I don't think expect it returned ever.

I did not have to spill the details of this situation. Could have kept this to myself. But I believe in sharing even if it looks bad for me. Bad people hide in the shadows and keep things to themselves. I choose to put it out there and let the public decide.

A lot of gov's are being heavily criticized for being unprepared during this crisis. It's all just poor management.

Not registering Coronavirus.es in their country code is an example of this unpreparedness. Spain's people should be asking. "Wait so you knew about Coronavirus but did not register Coronavirus.es as an info site for Spain? Instead some Fat Filipino in Jersey registered it? And you tried to buy it but could only afford $10,000 so instead you confiscated it for free?

Given the economic issues in Spain due to the gov mismanagement. I hear Spanish people really don't like or trust their Gov.

So I think they can appreciate what I tried to do with Coronavirus.es

Don't make this out to be that I'm a d*ck.
An entire country's gov FORGOT to register Coronavirus.es. Mistakes cost money or at least they should. Unless of course if you control the registry. In which case do what you want take what you want.

I'm done with this. It's whatever. Hope it helps the people of Spain get info and they get thru this.

I wasn't even given the opportunity to shine here and hand it over to them in a grand gesture at least for publicity. Nope. Just took it. Excuse or reason ? Coronavirus.

Not even a formal request like "may we borrow this domain to help get the word out?"

They did not even bother to wait to hear my answer. I would have said yes. Shoot ..if the government of Spain wants to borrow my domain?

Who would say no to that?

I'm really starting to believe that $10k offer was a Gov Rep because they just up and took the domain meaning they "already talked to me about it" and it did not end well.

In my defense that $10k offer I could not have known they were Spain Gov. How could I? He could have just been a domainer trying to buy coronavirus.es for $10k for quick flip.

Had I known it was Spain? Probably would have accepted the $10,000 or just let them borrow it for free.

My problem with all this is that the OPTION was taken from me. I was not allowed to do the noble thing. Instead what I got was a form of stealth mode buying by the Spain Gov. To try to get it for cheap. They did not want this domainer to find out that Spain Gov wants this domain. Fearing he might ask for $1 million.

I don't know what's worse. A domainer who regs coronavirus.es or a Gov that uses stealth mode to buy a domain for cheap by hiding who they are.
A domain they FORGOT to register.

If they are pissed they couldn't buy it for $10,000 perhaps they should have just contacted me "as themselves" none of this stealth mode crap.

Soon as you go "stealth mode" you are already doing something shady.

Hiding who you are so you can get the best deal for a steal when you have the resources of an entire country? Not noble at all.

Meanwhile they are a COUNTRY. meaning they have way more money than Amazon or Tesla.

I can't anymore. Just giving me upset stomach. The more I talk about this just gets me pissed.

Goodnight NP!





I wonder what's next of my domains get confiscated.

To be continued....
 
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.es Domains Dispute & Policy NIC.es uses a variation of UDRP.

Relevant differences between the procedure for .es and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP) include the following:

  • Whereas the UDRP is limited to the protection of trademark rights against infringement through bad-faith registration and use of a domain name, under the procedure for .es a Claimant must establish that the registration or use of the domain name constitutes an infringement of rights protected in Spain, which may concern trademarks but may also concern different types of intellectual property or certain other rights (see Rules, article 2, definition of "Derechos Previos" and of "Registro de Nombres de Dominio de Carácter Especulativo o Abusivo").
  • No three-member panels are possible.
    The most recent source for this dispute policy can be found at: www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/policy

    Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy

    1. Purpose.
    This Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Policy") has been adopted by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("ICANN"), is incorporated by reference into your Registration Agreement, and sets forth the terms and conditions in connection with a dispute between you and any party other than us (the .es registrar) over the registration and use of an Internet domain name registered by you. Proceedings under Paragraph 4 of this Policy will be conducted according to the Rules for Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the "Rules of Procedure"), which are available at www.icann.org/udrp/udrp-rules-24oct99.htm, and the selected administrative-dispute-resolution service provider's supplemental rules.
    2. Your Representations.
    By applying to register a domain name, or by asking us to maintain or renew a domain name registration, you hereby represent and warrant to us that (a) the statements that you made in your Registration Agreement are complete and accurate; (b) to your knowledge, the registration of the domain name will not infringe upon or otherwise violate the rights of any third party; (c) you are not registering the domain name for an unlawful purpose; and (d) you will not knowingly use the domain name in violation of any applicable laws or regulations. It is your responsibility to determine whether your domain name registration infringes or violates someone else's rights.
    3. Cancellations, Transfers, and Changes.
    We will cancel, transfer or otherwise make changes to domain name registrations under the following circumstances:
    a. subject to the provisions of Paragraph 8, our receipt of written or appropriate electronic instructions from you or your authorized agent to take such action;
    b. our receipt of an order from a court or arbitral tribunal, in each case of competent jurisdiction, requiring such action; and/or
    c. our receipt of a decision of an Administrative Panel requiring such action in any administrative proceeding to which you were a party and which was conducted under this Policy or a later version of this Policy adopted by ICANN or the .es Registry. (See Paragraph 4(i) and (k) below.)
    We may also cancel, transfer or otherwise make changes to a domain name registration in accordance with the terms of your Registration Agreement or other legal requirements.
    4. Mandatory Administrative Proceeding.
    This Paragraph sets forth the type of disputes for which you are required to submit to a mandatory administrative proceeding. These proceedings will be conducted before one of the administrative-dispute-resolution service providers listed at www.icann.org/en/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm (each, a "Provider").
    a. Applicable Disputes. You are required to submit to a mandatory administrative proceeding in the event that a third party (a "complainant") asserts to the applicable Provider, in compliance with the Rules of Procedure, that
    (i) your domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the complainant has rights; and
    (ii) you have no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; and
    (iii) your domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith.
    In the administrative proceeding, the complainant must prove that each of these three elements are present.
    b. Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. For the purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(iii), the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be present, shall be evidence of the registration and use of a domain name in bad faith:
    (i) circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or
    (ii) you have registered the domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or
    (iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or
    (iv) by using the domain name, you have intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, Internet users to your web site or other on-line location, by creating a likelihood of cpr144449003101 confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site or location or of a product or service on your web site or location.
    c. How to Demonstrate Your Rights to and Legitimate Interests in the Domain Name in Responding to a Complaint. When you receive a complaint, you should refer to Paragraph 5 of the Rules of Procedure in determining how your response should be prepared. Any of the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be proved based on its evaluation of all evidence presented, shall demonstrate your rights or legitimate interests to the domain name for purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(ii):
    (i) before any notice to you of the dispute, your use of, or demonstrable preparations to use, the domain name or a name corresponding to the domain name in connection with a bona fide offering of goods or services; or
    (ii) you (as an individual, business, or other organization) have been commonly known by the domain name, even if you have acquired no trademark or service mark rights; or
    (iii) you are making a legitimate noncommercial or fair use of the domain name, without intent for commercial gain to misleadingly divert consumers or to tarnish the trademark or service mark at issue.
    d. Selection of Provider. The complainant shall select the Provider from among those approved by ICANN by submitting the complaint to that Provider. The selected Provider will administer the proceeding, except in cases of consolidation as described in Paragraph 4(f).
    e. Initiation of Proceeding and Process and Appointment of Administrative Panel. The Rules of Procedure state the process for initiating and conducting a proceeding and for appointing the panel that will decide the dispute (the "Administrative Panel").
    f. Consolidation. In the event of multiple disputes between you and a complainant, either you or the complainant may petition to consolidate the disputes before a single Administrative Panel. This petition shall be made to the first Administrative Panel appointed to hear a pending dispute between the parties. This Administrative Panel may consolidate before it any or all such disputes in its sole discretion, provided that the disputes being consolidated are governed by this Policy or a later version of this Policy adopted by ICANN or the .es Registry.
    g. Fees. All fees charged by a Provider in connection with any dispute before an Administrative Panel pursuant to this Policy shall be paid by the complainant, except in cases where you elect to expand the Administrative Panel from one to three panelists as provided in Paragraph 5(b)(iv) of the Rules of Procedure, in which case all fees will be split evenly by you and the complainant.
    h. Our Involvement in Administrative Proceedings. We do not, and will not, participate in the administration or conduct of any proceeding before an Administrative Panel. In addition, we will not be liable as a result of any decisions rendered by the Administrative Panel.
    i. Remedies. The remedies available to a complainant pursuant to any proceeding before an Administrative Panel shall be limited to requiring the cancellation of your domain name or the transfer of your domain name registration to the complainant.
    j. Notification and Publication. The Provider shall notify us of any decision made by an Administrative Panel with respect to a domain name you have registered with us. All decisions under this Policy will be published in full over the Internet, except when an Administrative Panel determines in an exceptional case to redact portions of its decision.
    k. Availability of Court Proceedings. The mandatory administrative proceeding requirements set forth in Paragraph 4 shall not prevent either you or the complainant from submitting the dispute to a court of competent jurisdiction for independent resolution before such mandatory administrative proceeding is commenced or after such proceeding is concluded. If an Administrative Panel decides that your domain name registration should be canceled or transferred, we will wait ten (10) business days (as observed in the location of our principal office) after we are informed by the applicable Provider of the Administrative Panel's decision before implementing that decision. We will then implement the decision unless we have received from you during that ten (10) business day period official documentation (such as a copy of a complaint, file-stamped by the clerk of the court) that you have commenced a lawsuit against the complainant in a jurisdiction to which the complainant has submitted under Paragraph 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure. (In general, that jurisdiction is either the location of our principal office or of your address as shown in our Whois database. See Paragraphs 1 and 3(b)(xiii) of the Rules of Procedure for details.) If we receive such documentation within the ten (10) business day period, we will not implement the Administrative Panel's decision, and we will take no further action, until we receive (i) evidence satisfactory to us of a resolution between the parties; (ii) evidence satisfactory to us that your lawsuit has been dismissed or withdrawn; or (iii) a copy of an order from such court dismissing your lawsuit or ordering that you do not have the right to continue to use your domain name.
    5. All Other Disputes and Litigation.
    All other disputes between you and any party other than us regarding your domain name registration that are not brought pursuant to the mandatory administrative proceeding provisions of Paragraph 4 shall be resolved between you and such other party through any court, arbitration or other proceeding that may be available.
There is also their T&C here https://www.dominios.es/dominios/sites/dominios/files/Aceptación términos y condiciones_UF_17_05_2018 (v 3) + logo.pdf

I think I just went cross eyed scrolling down. Lol

It all looks Greek to me! I already know what it is going to say. I'm f*cked.

Appreciate the extensive info. No time to read it.
 
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See the story about the guys that bought 17,000 bottles of hand sanitizer - They were almost made an example of. But, they are know and reputations are ruined.\

This kind of name, in the midst of a real pandemic, is a questionable decision.

Keep it up and you will make it on TV worldwide, maybe worse if some US Attorney General has a problem with it. PLUS... it is a true blemish on the industry.

Try donating it, and asking for a mention in a press release or link to a gov or ngo site - that's gold for SEO.
 
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Governments can go to Hell, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure there's one truly democratic government in the world (I have a draft article at MEVoting.com). In my opinion governments are as likely to seize domains to censor truth telling and/or spread propaganda as for any purpose which benefits the population.
So did you just work out that Governments can not be trusted . Really.
 
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You should have taken the offer especially considering the name. This is at least the 2nd or 3rd time you have told us that you messed up a deal with indecision and wanting more. Not every domain is a lottery ticket. Think and next time— take the deal.
 
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the no 1 reason stay away from cctlds...
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They wouldn't want their porn site back from me.
 
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Did you really expect a country to buy a domain from you ? I mean come on, laws can be made in 5 minutes and seize every domain that is related to corona virus... Really...

In Romania there were a bunch of domains seized and shut down by authorities because they added fake news and such. Governments take it really seriously.
 
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Surprisingly coronavirus .com.es is available on GoDaddy auction. .com.es is out of emergency :xf.smile: it appears.
 
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the no 1 reason stay away from cctlds...
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Any extension is vulnerable. France.com is a prime example. The government had the name taken from the owner and Web.com (the registrar) didn't even let the owner know. They had a proper business running from that domain.

https://unfairfrance.com/
 
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Without digging in the terms, i think the spanish government is covered in seizing domains for public interest. I think the idea behind it is to make a website to educate people and handle this crisis.
 
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You might want to get compensated for your domain, since after all, it wont be the trend when its over.
 
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Without digging in the terms, i think the spanish government is covered in seizing domains for public interest. I think the idea behind it is to make a website to educate people and handle this crisis.

They are. They declared the national state of emergency.

They can seize whatever they need to protect their country and citizens as long as its within their jurisdiction. As they should.
 
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